Just wondering if those that have refused to have the vaccine are now wishing they had?

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There’s a lot of talk about vaccinated people not having to quarantine in the future making travel easier, the possibility of a vaccine passport to be able to go to events and travel.

I have several friends that have refused to have the vaccine due to conspiracy theories and ‘not knowing the risks’, if they had taken the first vaccine they would have had their 2nd by now and potentially be ok to travel in the coming weeks or attend events, there even talk of some jobs needing vaccination (care workers).

I’m just wondering if anyone regrets their choice not to vaccinate?

BTW, I am vaccinated but I’m not judging those who decided against it, just wondering if they have changed their minds?

@KeepingTrack

thanks for demonstrating that you don’t understand what the vaccination is for. Clue one - it’s not about protecting you.

@DaddyCool60, isn’t it?

When my dcs got their jab for polio, DTP etc… it wasn’t about protecting them?
When older people get the flu jab, it’s not about protect them either.

What do you think getting vaccinated is about?

Protecting others. Have you been under a rock the last six months. www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html

Although WHO states the following on their website

Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

[quote Tiari]**@DaddyCool60
I don't believe I am selfish in waiting until trials are completed, I think it's a sensible decision. Furthermore, to accuse me of hoping people will come here and say they've been damaged is a seriously immature attitude.
In fact, you are sounding bitter and a bit frantic. Are you regretting having the vaccine?[/quote]
I’d ratherxbe having a conversation with an adult but hey ho. Trials are as complete as they need to be. It appears you’re accusing people not only of being selfish but lieing. Nice one. FYI I’ve had COVID and both vaccines. As you can see, I’m not dead and I can assure you if I was damaged in any way I’d be the first one to let the world know. Admit it, you’re scared of needles.

I haven't had it and I'm really glad I didn't.

@DaddyCool60

@ AgathaAllAlong thanks for demonstrating that you don’t understand what the vaccination is for. Clue one - it’s not about protecting you.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Of course the vaccine offers protection to the person having it. Why do you think the JCVI prioritised the groups most likely to need protected?

Firstly, not knowing the risks is not a conspiracy, it is a genuine worry. Nobody knows the long term effect of this vaccine, not even the sceintists. Everyone can say that the risk is very low but that is not good enough for me. I have managed 15+ months without contracting this virus and im happy to take the chance that i wont catch it and even if i do i will be fine. To answer your question, i will never regret not having this vaccine. It is a personnal choice and it is one i an happy with.

Protecting others. Have you been under a rock the last six months.

Well I’m sorry but I think people are vaccinated first and foremost to protect THEMSELVES.
That’s why you have so many threads atm why people being pissed off that they can’t do A and B despite the fact so many people have had their first and second dose.

If you think people do that because they are pure altruist, I think you are naive.
That’s also why there is so many discussion about the ethics of asking young people and teens ot get vaccinated for a virus that present so little risk for them but for what we have no idea of the long term effect and risk.
Just see for example the fact that even Pfizer is can cause heart problem and some countries are now saying that actually under 30yo should only one jab rather than two. That’s after AZ is now considered too risky for them.
You can’t just ignore those known and potential risk on the ground that it will protect older people who have had their jab anyway

@DaddyCool60, your comments ARE making you sounding frantic and angry.
Like if you had a score to make and the best way to do it is attack other people…

@KeepingTrack. Really? if it makes you feel better to think I'm frantic and angry, fill your boots.

As for the dangers of the vaccine? Show me the bodies. None around here as far as I can see. The worries you have don't scare me one iota. I'd rather feel safe in being protected, even though Ive had COVID and had no symptoms. Here's something to stick in your pipe... that fact (no symptoms) alone was enough to make me get the first vaccination I've had since I was a child under ten – TO STOP ME PASSING IT TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE (Caps not to be shouting – for emphasis as you don't get it).

There are plenty of unknown risks with most common drugs. Asperin can kill you. Perhaps you should steer clear ;-)

As I said you sound very angry…..

@DaddyCool60 The way you are coming across is very aggresive. Im willing to bet that you are sorry you were so hasty to have the vaccine but cant express it and so have chosen to belittle the people who have decided to wait to make an more informed choice.

Gosh the anger in this thread is unbelievable….I thought the pandemic would have taught people to be empathetic, live and let live etc…apparently not…it’s all about DO AS I DO ELSE I’LL CALL YOU NAMES..the caps are to point out the prevailing sentiments in this this thread

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/22/philippines-president-duterte-you-choose-covid-vaccine-or-i-will-have-you-jailed

And to emphasise how much of a us and them scenario all this has created - by husband wants me to write a will!! I’m 40 otherwise healthy female but he is convinced I’m about to die this year that I have to write a will!

@KeepingTrack

As I said you sound very angry…..

Please yourself. You’re wrong about that too by the way.

[quote Tana433]@DaddyCool60 The way you are coming across is very aggresive. Im willing to bet that you are sorry you were so hasty to have the vaccine but cant express it and so have chosen to belittle the people who have decided to wait to make an more informed choice.[/quote]
Aggressive? Moi? I think that’s your defensiveness at work. Having said that, I would be angry if you passed on the virus when you wouldn’t if vaccinated. As would anyone I would think. Oh and I’m very well informed here but if it suits you to be condescending there’s not much I can do about that. Apart from not engaging further as you plainly fail to see reason.

[quote Tana433]@DaddyCool60 The way you are coming across is very aggresive. Im willing to bet that you are sorry you were so hasty to have the vaccine but cant express it and so have chosen to belittle the people who have decided to wait to make an more informed choice.[/quote]
Oh, and I do not regret the vaccine in any way. I don’t see how I could. Months later zilch effects. I don’t even get any reaction the day after. Yay!!! Three of us in the family jumped at the chance of getting vaccinated at the earliest opportunity and the fourth is booked in. Your view of me would mean I’d be wilfully putting my closest loved ones in danger. What a warped view of people you have!

@DaddyCool60

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

As of 14th June in the states, 5343 deaths after vaccine so far. Just to put that into perspective, the vaccine created for SARS-Cov1 17 years ago was considered too dangerous for use and totally cancelled after just 25 reported deaths after vaccine.

I never expected so many responses to me thread, still trying to read them all.

I agree that people that have chosen not to have it aren’t necessarily anti Vax, I understand many wanted to wait and see how it effects people before getting it themselves and I understand some don’t think it’s necessary when you they are healthy, we all have the choice but I just wondered if after the talk of ‘travel passports” and “care workers needing to be vaccinated” that some might have changed their mind?

We know the vaccine doesn’t stop people getting covid, we know many are still testing positive but the statistics show that less people are becoming seriously ill from it and very few are dying from it since the vaccination roll out?

I feel like if the government done ease restrictions soon then they’ll have shot themselves in the foot - so many people are double dosed yet are still under restrictions. Where’s the incentive to get jabbed if you can’t even do anything

Don’t **

[quote Lostinacloud]@DaddyCool60

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

As of 14th June in the states, 5343 deaths after vaccine so far. Just to put that into perspective, the vaccine created for SARS-Cov1 17 years ago was considered too dangerous for use and totally cancelled after just 25 reported deaths after vaccine.[/quote]
And in the same link: FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.

See the last few words. And I’m not dead. Nor are my family or anyone I know. Quote me the figures of deaths on the road over tha past year if you like stats. Tell you what, I’ll save you the bother: There were 24,470 killed or seriously injured casualties (KSIs) in reported road traffic accidents reported to the police, for the year ending June 2020. This is a statistically significant decrease of 11% compared to the year ending June 2019 (27,471).28 Jan 2021

Better give up on those dangerous car journies perhaps.?

@DaddyCool60 great, good to see you haven’t lost the ability to assess risk and likelihood. Why then are you so angry at people choosing not to be vaccinated because they have decided that the risk of covid to them is smaller than the potential side effects of a new vaccine? Remember that practically everyone under the age of 60 has over a 99% chance of survival.

Also, I’ve seen physicians say more than once that VAERS reports are estimated to be only around 10% of actual occurrences.