Just wondering if those that have refused to have the vaccine are now wishing they had?

[Lovemusic33]

There’s a lot of talk about vaccinated people not having to quarantine in the future making travel easier, the possibility of a vaccine passport to be able to go to events and travel.

I have several friends that have refused to have the vaccine due to conspiracy theories and ‘not knowing the risks’, if they had taken the first vaccine they would have had their 2nd by now and potentially be ok to travel in the coming weeks or attend events, there even talk of some jobs needing vaccination (care workers).

I’m just wondering if anyone regrets their choice not to vaccinate?

BTW, I am vaccinated but I’m not judging those who decided against it, just wondering if they have changed their minds?

d'oh - chosen to be vaccinated

@shazzz1xx

You will never need a jab to go on holiday cos the government/economy/world want your money just think how much they would lose because there is always gunna be millions that will not have the jab I will never get a jab to go on holiday amuch as I love Spain I’m happy to never go again over this

Exactly. I heard Benidorm tourism board has already lined up the paperwork to sue.

No

@ollyollyoxenfree why are you sending me excess death figures for 2020? I was talking about now. Do you have a different link that shows that covid deaths are higher at the moment?

You can always get the jab. But once it's in you, you can't get it out again.

I've heard lots of people regret getting it. Either side effects or just feeling conned that travel hasn't been green lighted for them, and they've taken a punt on a vaccine that still means you can covid and have to do all the isolating stuff, and has the worry of longer term autoimmune issues potentially on top of that.

@Parker231

I’ve been vaccinated as has everyone I know. I’ll be 100% happy for vaccine passports to be introduced (with exemptions for those who medically can’t have the vaccine) - makes travel safer.

How does it make it safer? That olympics person - double vaccinated and negative test - arrived in Japan and was positive.

Doesn't sound safer to me.

It’s interesting. I want the jab to protect others. I am watching the data carefully. I can’t be arsed summarising my views at length but I am alarmed by the data - or should I say lack of diligence over the data. So with the periods issue - has they said “oh hang on, we will check this” I would have had more faith. It’s very clear there is a periods impact - even from MN - but the whitewashing just reduces trust. Same with the downplaying of the clotting issue. I have lost a lot of faith in our scientific experts and the regulatory system in the U.K.

I don’t feel there is a mass conspiracy or we have lizards etc - I just feel it’s jab at all costs and for those that don’t make it - tough. This will all come out and erode trust in future vaccine programmes, I suspect

Yes my elder sister - a nurse - regrets getting the first AZ. I know a lot of people with odd longer lasting effects such from tinnitus to migraine to longer term period issues. I know two people who have suffered strokes. No investigations. Huge regret

the government/economy/world want your money
yes, banning the unjabbed from attending events & holidays will backfire, the venues need the revenue more than the unjabbed need the leisure activity.
It comes down to who has the most leverage.

How does it make it safer? That olympics person - double vaccinated and negative test - arrived in Japan and was positive.

It's the exception not the rule though?

Vaccination drastically reduces your chance of a) being infected with COVID and b) transmitting it if you do get infected

There will always be individuals for who this isn't the case, but it's far less likely if you are vaccinated

*It’s interesting. I want the jab to protect others. I am watching the data carefully. I can’t be arsed summarising my views at length but I am alarmed by the data - or should I say lack of diligence over the data. So with the periods issue - has they said “oh hang on, we will check this” I would have had more faith. It’s very clear there is a periods impact - even from MN - but the whitewashing just reduces trust. Same with the downplaying of the clotting issue. I have lost a lot of faith in our scientific experts and the regulatory system in the U.K.

I don’t feel there is a mass conspiracy or we have lizards etc - I just feel it’s jab at all costs and for those that don’t make it - tough. This will all come out and erode trust in future vaccine programmes, I suspect*

This is just how I feel. If I had more (or any ...) trust in our government and now the scientists, of course I'd have the jab. But I don't trust a word any of them says anymore.

I regret getting the jab ! The only reason I got it was because of vaccine passports I had a delayed allergic reaction covid arm hives my eyes been twitching like crazy (which I have never had before) heavy menstrual bleeding every other vaccine I've had has caused no side effects I've had hep B yellow fever and all the childhood ones I'm not an antivaxer but the covid vaccine is the worst one I've ever had for a virus I was already at low risk for .

So with the periods issue - has they said “oh hang on, we will check this” I would have had more faith. It’s very clear there is a periods impact - even from MN - but the whitewashing just reduces trust.

@Roonerspismed

As has been discussed on the other thread, there hasn't been any whitewashing- the data is publicly available. The MHRA has said exactly what you'd want them to, that they will continue to monitor. They've explained that right now given the number of reports through the yellow card scheme, the numbers don't look higher than what they would expect baseline rates to be, which means you wouldn't assume a causal relationship (currently). This picture may change if reports continue to increase.

I don't see anyone dismissing the menstrual symptoms reported by women.

The MHRA said: “The current evidence does not suggest an increased risk of either menstrual disorders or unexpected vaginal bleeding following the vaccines.”

It added: “The number of reports of menstrual disorders and vaginal bleeding is low in relation to both the number of females who have received Covid-19 vaccines to date and how common menstrual disorders are generally.

“The MHRA will continue to closely monitor reports of menstrual disorders and vaginal bleeding with Covid-19 vaccines.”

*Vaccination drastically reduces your chance of a) being infected with COVID and b) transmitting it if you do get infected

There will always be individuals for who this isn't the case, but it's far less likely if you are vaccinated*

You're desperate to believe this @ollyollyoxenfree and I feel sorry for you.

We've all be sold a lie. People are starting to wake up to this now. It's clear, here, in the anger of those that have been.

Funnily OP started this thread asking if those of us who'd chosen to refuse the jab were regretting it - but this thread makes it clear that the regret is the other way round ... with those that feel they've been coerced or manipulated into having this jab.

There are many people that have researched and happily chosen to be Covid vaccinated, of course - but they're not the people I see posting on this thread.

"I don't see anyone dismissing the menstrual symptoms reported by women." - before you lot jump on this - I mean individuals within the MHRA and other vaccine regulatory bodies

Of course there are dicks who will always dismiss menstrual and gynae symptoms - I have endometriosis and vulvodynia flares so am veryyy familiar with it not being taking seriously. But I'm satisfied that they MHRA are, and I agree with their current take on the situation/.

@Dustyboots

*Vaccination drastically reduces your chance of a) being infected with COVID and b) transmitting it if you do get infected

There will always be individuals for who this isn't the case, but it's far less likely if you are vaccinated*

You're desperate to believe this @ollyollyoxenfree and I feel sorry for you.

We've all be sold a lie. People are starting to wake up to this now. It's clear, here, in the anger of those that have been.

Funnily OP started this thread asking if those of us who'd chosen to refuse the jab were regretting it - but this thread makes it clear that the regret is the other way round ... with those that feel they've been coerced or manipulated into having this jab.

There are many people that have researched and happily chosen to be Covid vaccinated, of course - but they're not the people I see posting on this thread.

again @Dustyboots?

I'm not "desperate" to believe anything, I'm happy that there's robust evidence demonstrating the both statements are true

You have had this explained to you by so many posters, who have provided endless layman articles and scientific manuscripts that give evidence for this so I'm not sure why you're still attempting to spread misinformation

In Australia apparently people are cancelling their vaccination in large numbers as they don't want the AZ vaccine, which they perceive as too risky. AZ is recommended for anyone over 60, there. It's interesting where other countries set the age limit for it. Perhaps people there feel less threatened by Covid.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57549796

Meanwhile, Angela Merkel has followed up her AZ first jab with Moderna as the second.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57571791

No.

@ollyollyoxenfree I don’t think the Mhra have released figures showing the number of doses of AZ given to under 50s yet - afaik they are still calculating risk out of total doses given.

@Hornbill123456789
...sure thing&if anyone wants to ask me how I "got through" covid last year id tell them-i had an annoying cough&headache&temperature,drank a bit more water than usual-probs3days of paracetomol..&long covid??-bit like flu vs man-flu: some milk it for all its worth&others get on with it..if you are vulnerable make YOUR choice for you&move on.. bullying tactics& labelling anyone who has a difference of opinion smacks of zealotism.
(Incidentally never had the flu vac either, cheers).
So imo to remove personal choice is to eradicate the pillars of progressive society..independent,intelligent questioning and evidence-based data rather than blind dogmatic adherence to Govt ideology..

I haven’t been sold any lie - having had both vaccinations (AZ) it will reduce the severity should I catch Covid, reduce my likelihood of needing hospital treatment and reduce the transmission to others around me.

I don’t regret my decision to be vaccinated - couldn’t wait for my turn.

The numbers of people reporting side effects is still tiny compared to the millions of vaccinations given and lives saved.

I’m doing vaccinations on Sunday and have been told that every available appointment has been booked.

But every time someone gets jabbed it is one life too late to save.

Oh hello Mike Yeadon

seriously though @Celticwaves, you think everyone who has been vaccinated is now going to drop dead? How long do I have left do you think? (One dose, pfizer)