Virus Passed On By Just A Few Seconds Exposure

[Flaxmeadow]

Why we should still be cautious? News report on how infectious.

Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) Tweeted: “NO MORE THAN MERE SECONDS” of exposure in 10-60 centimeters where one man triggers several #DeltaVariant infections with brief “fleeting” contact. Thousands of shoppers at NSW🇦🇺 mass tested. Delta called “near & present danger”.

HT @lizziepearl. #COVID19
t.co/NFg1RwMnVD twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1406779894785351688?s=20

@MarshaBradyo

We're the laughing stock of the entire world.

How much of your day do you spend laughing at Brazil and India? Or is it just the U.K. you like to laugh at

We're an island country.

We had the opportunity to go Zero Covid but instead ended up with one of the worst death rates in the world, and ended up creating Alpha, which led into the creation of Delta.

Most of the population of Brazil and India live in poverty, not much they could do.

You keep enjoying your mirth and hyperbole Nanny.

Yet again

We are NOT a fucking island country 😒

@unwuthering

The UK isn't going for zero covid.

The UK, with one of the worst death tolls of the larger/former world leading countries, is obviously not and never was going for zero covid.

A zero covid policy was always going to be impossible without early border closures and effective and mandatory quarantine - instead there was Cheltenham and masses of Spanish soccer fans welcomed in, early on, when the time to close the gates was clear.

Instead, the UK has gone for geronticide, zigzagged back to suppression, and richoted here and there - always reacting substantially too late to make any real effect on the containment of the virus or the inevitable mutations that have seeded to the rest of the world, killing many thousands elsewhere.

It is nothing to be proud of.

I think Uk is going for vaccination.

Hence the close too late, lockdown, people scared and will willingly accept vaccinations, approach.

We are an island country. However by the time anyone knew about covid it was probably too late - the earliest cases in Europe were tracked to November 2019.

Our issue and difference to NZ and Australia is our location and proximity to Europe - there is a lot more international travel through the UK than either country and we have established ourselves as a trading hub and tourist destination on this basis.

Its like chalk and cheese. Whilst we have similarities in being an island, minor things like how much and the way we import food (fresh food by haulage with drivers rather than frozen / long life in containers etc) are relevant here.

But don't let this get in the way of a good argument.

ended up creating Alpha, which led into the creation of Delta.

We did not bloody create Alpha, it's a virus, and viruses mutate. Zero covid was never a realistic option and certainly not for the UK.

We really aren’t our death rate sadly is fairly commensurate with Europe (10th I think when looking at population) and 19th in the world

Yes Red so many times it’s been said never sticks.

I’m looking forward to a more US situation - life back and vaccination.

Some will loathe it as want zero Covid and have been lamenting over NZ and Aus the whole way through, despite the geographic differences.

Has anyone who keeps doing this lived in another country? Esp the ones you want to be like

ended up creating Alpha, which led into the creation of Delta

What a load of rubbish

Do you have other options - ie move from country this level of self loathing isn’t right.

Can you ignore that Feigl-Ding retweeted this news article and focus on the news itself?

Posters pointing out a thread has a capitalised title is considered reasonable discussion too.

Every inane and irrelevant detail must be dragged up in topics over and over again. But what did I expect. Oh well

@Flaxmeadow

Can you ignore that Feigl-Ding retweeted this news article and focus on the news itself?

Posters pointing out a thread has a capitalised title is considered reasonable discussion too.

Every inane and irrelevant detail must be dragged up in topics over and over again. But what did I expect. Oh well

Caps are very tabloid though and they do seem to have that brain dulling effect

Must Panic Now

It’s more amusing than anything

@theemporerhasnoclothes

And hopefully they're repeating the tests / following up on big events and any change in transmission rates now we have mostly Delta. The ones I've heard about will have happened with the Alpha variant.

Events are happening all the time, they might not be reported because it's not news but it's an every day thing now

@NannyAndJohn

Fuck me. Just goes to show how deep in the mud we are with Delta about.

Thank goodness that due to Australia's Zero Covid strategy, they were able to trace the cases quickly.

Wear a mask.
Keep two metres apart.
Limit indoor mixing.

You know we've had the delta variant for weeks, it's not going to suddenly get worse because of a possible super spreader in Aus.

I'm sure we have them too and yet your much awaited doomsday scenario doesn't seem to be on the horizon just yet

Caps are very tabloid though and they do seem to have that brain dulling effect

I was taught titles should be capitalised. But anyway, how about you all start a topic on it. I'm sure it would be riveting

Must Panic Now

I'm not panicking. I want to discuss the news

I get people might want to bury their heads in the sand whenever unpleasant news appears. Want to shut down mainstream discussion, maybe to protect themselves from the trauma of having to acknowledge science news during a pandemic, or whatever reason, but posters do have the option of scrolling by and hiding topics if it all becomes too much.

I get people might want to bury their heads in the sand whenever unpleasant news appears. Want to shut down mainstream discussion, maybe to protect themselves from the trauma of having to acknowledge science news during a pandemic, or whatever reason, but posters do have the option of scrolling by and hiding topics if it all becomes too much.

We are discussing it

No it’s not too much

A small laugh over a title that’s all - don’t worry you haven’t reached bury head posts / head in sand whatever else level

There was a CertainPoster who was Very Dramatic with Headlines but they were usually on the Subject of Terrible Things Happening to Children.

RickiTarr
I think everyone has a fixed position by now. I’m afraid mine is fatigued.

Well yeah
But it's not so much fixed positions, nothing wrong with having strong views on events, as it's all the attempts at derailing.

Many early topics on the virus being airborne, or whatever the correct science wording is, were repeatedly shouted down or shut down.

@Flaxmeadow

RickiTarr I think everyone has a fixed position by now. I’m afraid mine is fatigued.

Well yeah
But it's not so much fixed positions, nothing wrong with having strong views on events, as it's all the attempts at derailing.

Many early topics on the virus being airborne, or whatever the correct science wording is, were repeatedly shouted down or shut down.

Were they?

Hmm.

Ok.

some posters have a very political position, which involves wanting societal destruction at any cost. Therefore any good move (eg vaccines) must be rubbished and the phrase “laughing stock of entire world” repeated at every opportunity. If they are asked what they do want, they can’t/won’t answer because the truth is that they see this pandemic as an opportunity .

Were they?

Yes, try find a topic on it from back then. I'm not saying they were deleted for wrong reasons, at the time it might even have been for the best. I can understand it

@Flaxmeadow

Were they?

Yes, try find a topic on it from back then. I'm not saying they were deleted for wrong reasons, at the time it might even have been for the best. I can understand it

I've seen debate throughout. And closed mindedness all around at times.

It doesn't mean people weren't able to voice this opinion or that it wasn't taken seriously.

Honestly, you'd think that there was somekind of universal group think that everyone shared from what you say.

Maybe it's more infectious in Australia as they haven't had the chance to build a small amount of natural immunity like in the UK...

Aroundtheworldin80moves

Yes, maybe.

I think there's also a news narrative dimension in Australia particularly, there have been news reports in the last couple of days about how they're facing a vaccine shortage.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Maybe it's more infectious in Australia as they haven't had the chance to build a small amount of natural immunity like in the UK...

Context is amazing isn't it?