#ImDone trending on Twitter

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Not sure how Boris can stand up tonight and ask us to wait 'just another few weeks' after his antics this weekend.

Nor after seeing the scenes at countless pubs where people were celebrating the footy results

I'm 100% done now

@Wheresmybiscuit3 oh my goodness I’m so sorry xxx big hugs and a massive bunch of flowers to you. From my Mum’s experience, yes it’s been a LONG time since she first started bleeding (during the first lockdown) - and the waiting, the cancellations have not been great - she’s very anxious person. She lives alone (Dad died 2019). I think keeping herself busy has helped (she’s built a bike, gardening) she puts her old Beatles records on and dances once a week (in the lounge by herself) - and she gets up very early in the morning for a nature walk and takes photos.

I’ve had to nudge the NHS - by phoning PALS, express how you are feeling - I’m sure it worked for Mum - the reminder - an email sent to check progress.

Also - she DID go for an initial private diagnosis and got referred on through that to the NHS. It was surprisingly cheap I think??, so might be worth investigating if nothing else. I wish you all the luck in the world. And lots of strength xxxx

I had very strong emotional reactions to being redeployed to working on a covid ward three times in the past year. I had very strong emotional reactions each time I attended a memorial for a colleague who died from covid. I had a strong emotional reaction to the colleagues basically having breakdowns from working in hideous hideous conditions caring for covid patients.

I couldn't give a shit that for the second year running I can't go abroad, and have been priced out of holidaying in the UK. Holidays are lovely, and I am in quite some need of one. But, it's not the bee all and end all. Its a cherry on the top, and I want to get the icing nice and stable before adding the cherry.

I will plan nice days out. Days having fun in the forest. Days swimming in the sea.

I know there are many people suffering financially because of covid, and that is awful. The stupid gaps in government help really screwed a lot of people over. But, socially, we can now do just about anything we want (obviously except night clubs). I think there should be some dispensation for people who want to go abroad to visit family, but how many countries would actually let us in?!

[quote bumbleymummy]@JediGnot Riiight.... vaccinated GOOD people, unvaccinated BAD people. This is heading a nice way [/quote]
Well no, I didn't say that. I said it is a good thing to do to have the vaccine.

I have no problem with people who have not had the vaccine for medical reasons or because they have not yet had a chance to have it.

Other people who haven't had it are selfish or stupid or both IMHO.

I think you might be right whether or not restrictions lift or not @Lostinacloud . The repercussions of covid are going to be felt for a long time.

Just to pick up on this though;

..And the U.K. once again stays stuck in the doom cycle watching packed stadiums celebrate sporting events in the USA and Americans walk around freely despite recording between 5000 and 26,000 cases per day.

This illustrates my point. America has a population of approximately 330 million people compared to our approximate 69 million. Expressed as a percentage 5-26k cases is much less of a problem for them than it is for us especially when you consider the distribution of those cases is over such a large land mass.

Europe (discounting Russia for a better population comparison) is a better comparison with America and Europe as a whole is no where near 5-26k cases per day at the moment.

[quote Cornettoninja]**@Wherediditgo* I really didn’t read @JediGnot*’s post as picking on you

I appreciate that you’re feeling low but please don’t give anonymous opinion on the internet so much power over your well-being.[/quote]
I didn't intend to - sorry wherediditgo if I came across like that.

@OliviaWainright can I say the biggest thank you, from the bottom of my heart - for working in those conditions and for what you’ve done. My Mum finally getting there today was down to you and others like you. My DS (2) and Mum absolutely adore each other. He just goes into hyper mode as soon as he hears her voice! The fact that they will now (I’m hoping) have more years together (and with all her grandchildren) - I just can’t thank you enough x

You’re completely right about the days out - going out in nature, going somewhere very early/late and missing the crowds - or the sea late evening/night time. Climbing to the top of a hill. Putting a tent up in the garden, we bought an inflatable kayak instead of a holiday.

@JediGnot

Other people who haven't had it are selfish or stupid or both IMHO.

So unvaccinated BAD then? Just like I said. Fwiw, I haven’t had the vaccine, have no intention of doing so and I’m neither selfish nor stupid. HTH 😊

[quote bumbleymummy]@JediGnot

Other people who haven't had it are selfish or stupid or both IMHO.

So unvaccinated BAD then? Just like I said. Fwiw, I haven’t had the vaccine, have no intention of doing so and I’m neither selfish nor stupid. HTH 😊[/quote]
So you have a medical reason for not having it?

Or, in my opinion, you are more selfish or less clever (or both) than you think.

@OliviaWainright

I had very strong emotional reactions to being redeployed to working on a covid ward three times in the past year. I had very strong emotional reactions each time I attended a memorial for a colleague who died from covid. I had a strong emotional reaction to the colleagues basically having breakdowns from working in hideous hideous conditions caring for covid patients.

I couldn't give a shit that for the second year running I can't go abroad, and have been priced out of holidaying in the UK. Holidays are lovely, and I am in quite some need of one. But, it's not the bee all and end all. Its a cherry on the top, and I want to get the icing nice and stable before adding the cherry.

I will plan nice days out. Days having fun in the forest. Days swimming in the sea.

I know there are many people suffering financially because of covid, and that is awful. The stupid gaps in government help really screwed a lot of people over. But, socially, we can now do just about anything we want (obviously except night clubs). I think there should be some dispensation for people who want to go abroad to visit family, but how many countries would actually let us in?!

I feel very sorry for you for everything that you have gone through but equally I know people whose lives have been disrupted by suicide as a result of continuing lockdown. It’s not all about holidays at all but there has to be a balance. People have died as a result of cancelled cancer treatment or screenings not happening. All deaths are important and it is not hyperbole or selfishness to state that lockdown kills people too and we are at the point now where more people are likely to die of the restrictions than Covid. I wish people would stop saying it’s all about holidays. I also wish people would regard mental health as equally important as physical health. Poor mental health leads to poor physical health.

Suicide rates have not gone up. That's a regularly used but disproved argument. www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n834

Suicide rates have not gone up.

The mental health impacts of lockdown will be years and years unfolding.

@buffyp - I’m sorry about the people you know. That’s awful. A report by the University of Manchester said nationally, rates haven’t risen significantly - although I think more data is needed.

www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/study-finds-no-rise-in-english-suicide-rates-during-first-locvk/

My Mum’s cancer screening/operation was delayed as her hospital was inundated. So lockdown was necessary - otherwise her hospital would have been more overwhelmed then it was. No beds would have been available and the waiting lists would have been even longer.

[quote QwertyGirly]Suicide rates have not gone up. That's a regularly used but disproved argument. www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n834[/quote]
Oh look, not at all unbiased 🙄

*biased, bloody autocorrect

@buffyp

I actually work in mental health. We have opened two additional services, plus an additional crisis service in response to Covid. I also volunteer for mental health charity. There has been a marked increased in short term crisis management needed within mental health services, but there really hasn't been a significant rise in suicide.

Screenings and cancer services are playing catch up.

Lockdown has been hard. Really hard. But we're not in lockdown now. Some things are limited, but this is not a lock down. Wearing a mask, for the vast vast majority of people, isn't going to affect their lives daily.

I have also had a health crisis that has been dealt with, under the circumstances, very well. Interestingly, it was an adrenal tumour, but 95% of adrenal tumours are benign, so I knew I wasn't at massive risk of anything - and I am now undergoing all the tests. I have also had a mammogram and a cervical smear in the last 6 months.

Two of my best friends are NHS psychiatrists - one child and one adult. I can't comment on suicide but were both asked to increase their hours significantly since the pandemic started.

For people with serious mental illness isolation and anxiety are two major triggers.

[quote OliviaWainright]@buffyp

I actually work in mental health. We have opened two additional services, plus an additional crisis service in response to Covid. I also volunteer for mental health charity. There has been a marked increased in short term crisis management needed within mental health services, but there really hasn't been a significant rise in suicide.

Screenings and cancer services are playing catch up.

Lockdown has been hard. Really hard. But we're not in lockdown now. Some things are limited, but this is not a lock down. Wearing a mask, for the vast vast majority of people, isn't going to affect their lives daily.

I have also had a health crisis that has been dealt with, under the circumstances, very well. Interestingly, it was an adrenal tumour, but 95% of adrenal tumours are benign, so I knew I wasn't at massive risk of anything - and I am now undergoing all the tests. I have also had a mammogram and a cervical smear in the last 6 months.[/quote]
I’m sorry to hear that you also had an adrenal tumour @OliviaWainright. They suspect I have it because of some tests they ran in cardiology (I’ve had high blood pressure for quite a long time). Just waiting for endocrinology now. Did it take long to find out once you saw endocrinology? If you don’t mind me asking. It’s the thought that most are benign that’s getting me through at the moment!

@Horseyhorsey3 Impossible to know because it takes so long for the wheels to turn with things like inquests etc.

Exactly, he is someone who has been commissioned to write this piece and has pals at DHSC... If these are indeed 'the facts', why hasn't someone without a conflict of interest stepped up to write this piece?

Not having a good day with tech! Pressed post too soon... Why the hurry to publish the piece when there's such a backlog of inquests?
And absolutely no disrespect to @OliviaWainwright but one Trust/CCG isn't reflective of all of them. How often are you auditing suicides? Do you receive coroner and inquest reports? And how would you know about these individuals if they hadn't accessed the service?

@TheKeatingFive

Suicide rates have not gone up.

The mental health impacts of lockdown will be years and years unfolding.

Suicide is not the only measure of the mental health of the nation. I think attempted suicides should also be taken into account. Ask anyone who works in mental health... they are run off their feet.

@XenoBitch agree - and I think the report I read only refers to first lockdown. More data is needed. But - I can see that the concern is the horrifically high death toll and the pressure on the NHS.
Surely - in order to provide better mental health services, we need to relieve pressure on the NHS?
The mental health of my DC has been my main focus. She seems happy and I need to keep her happy. Positive language, an ‘I can’ attitude. Her school has instilled in her- a very caring, community and health awareness type attitude.

@Wheresmybiscuit3

I had CT scan for unrelated issue last autumn, and all I got told then was they were referring me. So it wasn't till I had initial appt with endocrinology in May that I even knew what it was about.
They arranged a second CT scan, and that showed they were benign, but many blood tests later and a fun fun 24 hour urine sample shows they're causing symptoms. Generally easily solved by removing the gland, but I have one on both glands!

That's as far as I am at moment. Waiting for next appointment.