#ImDone trending on Twitter

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Not sure how Boris can stand up tonight and ask us to wait 'just another few weeks' after his antics this weekend.

Nor after seeing the scenes at countless pubs where people were celebrating the footy results

I'm 100% done now

@Lostinacloud

STOP getting tested!

That is about all I need to say but I want to shout it from every last mountain top.

If people just stop getting tested then this arsehole of a government could only go on actual ill people, actually ill enough to need hospital care. The vulnerable are vaccinated. Those still not vaccinated or waiting a second dose are largely protected by virtue of their age. This whole thing must end. There are so many scientists and groups of experts shouting about data that doesn’t add up, highlighting major inconsistencies, too many to all be labelled conspiracy theorists. Even as they announce a further 4 week delay (which won’t be the end), less people are in hospital with covid than we have actual hospitals in the country. Less than 10 of the 1600 people who die in the U.K. everyday are dying of covid each day on average and yet still families abroad can’t be reunited, people can’t get married with all of their friends and family in attendance and businesses can’t open or run at full capacity for yet more weeks. Young people have given up so much of their lives and so have adults and yet nobody can have a well earned and needed overseas holiday.

It is now time to take our liberty back before it is lost forever.

uhuh

so you think the best way forward in a pandemic is to be totally in the dark regarding case numbers, mutation rates and new emerging strains

jesus wept

Let's test that out @hamstersarse

I think if cases keep doubling at their current rate of about every 9 days, yesterday's 7490 new cases will be 119,840 new cases in 36 days.

Because that's what exponential growth does

You?

@GoldenOmber

Life is back to normal as far as the majority are concerned, while a tiny vocal minority are barking mad that we aren’t proceeding.

But it’s not back to normal, is it? It’s not.

People ARE making considerable sacrifices to their lives and their jobs and so on for all this. They have done for over a year now and while this might look like some people’s pre-covid lives, it certainly doesn’t for many many many others. How does it help to minimise that sacrifice, to pretend like everything is just fine and normal?

I do think we need measures to keep a lid on delta but I can absolutely see why people are fed up, are at breaking point, are not going to buy any more ‘just another few weeks’ from the government, and I don’t see why tutting at them for not loving masks and restrictions is remotely going to help.

Excellent post.

Those on here claiming 'life is back to normal' obviously don't earn their livelihoods in a sector which cannot open, or are awaiting medical care, or have DC whose education is constantly being disrupted, or are unable to visit family abroad, or have had to postpone a wedding numerous times... What's worse, perhaps, is the lack of empathy towards those who are still hugely affected by restrictions. Just, 'suck it up', while gleefully exclaiming we'll be in full lockdown again in a couple of months anyway.

My DD suffers anxiety so bad she developed tics because of lockdown, she couldn't be with her friends, she couldn't engage in the normal way, she hates that's she missed so much school and worries about falling behind.

#imdone

@TheVampiresWife

A cold or flu doesn’t carry the risk of debilitating a vulnerable person quite as much as Covid otherwise you would have been under shielding advice before the pandemic

Flu can be fatal for people who are immunosuppressed due to illness or medication. In precisely the same way as covid is.

Why weren't you on MN demanding their protection in 2019?

I agree, my son was a hair's breathe away from intensive care by a common or garden cold. If I hadn't have taken him to hospital when I did there's every chance he could have not survived.

@Lostinacloud

STOP getting tested!

That is about all I need to say but I want to shout it from every last mountain top.

If people just stop getting tested then this arsehole of a government could only go on actual ill people, actually ill enough to need hospital care. The vulnerable are vaccinated. Those still not vaccinated or waiting a second dose are largely protected by virtue of their age. This whole thing must end. There are so many scientists and groups of experts shouting about data that doesn’t add up, highlighting major inconsistencies, too many to all be labelled conspiracy theorists. Even as they announce a further 4 week delay (which won’t be the end), less people are in hospital with covid than we have actual hospitals in the country. Less than 10 of the 1600 people who die in the U.K. everyday are dying of covid each day on average and yet still families abroad can’t be reunited, people can’t get married with all of their friends and family in attendance and businesses can’t open or run at full capacity for yet more weeks. Young people have given up so much of their lives and so have adults and yet nobody can have a well earned and needed overseas holiday.

It is now time to take our liberty back before it is lost forever.

Bless you. 🤗

Your name is spot on, although I can’t help but feel headinacloud would be more suitable. Good luck with that overseas holiday once the rest of the world starts to catch up to us with the Delta variant.

@hamstersarse fair point, it was risk of catching it & there are signs that the link to hospitalisation and or death is broken.

But even at current rates of hospitalisation (5%, around half the rate vs before vaccines) or death (0.5% vs 2-5% pre vaccine) that means if it runs rampant through the population there's 2.3m in hospital and 230k deaths.

I'm guessing the actual modelling done by people who know what they're doing is a lot less scary than my back of fag packet version but I still suspect the numbers won't be insignificant.

@Flaxmeadow

Can anyone really look at this photograph and not understand why people are pissed off with the hypocrisy

No because it looks like any large pub outdoor area, operating within the rules, in any city or large town in the rest of the country. There are about 23 people in that photo, including some working as security and some probably waitressing.

I counted 38. And that's just in the photograph. And they're in a large group, all mingling, standing up with drinks in their hands, from several households, etc.

So no, not like a large pub outdoor area, not at all.

My name is indeed spot on, currently my head is lost in a cloud of absolute bullshit coming from our government, not backed up by actual facts, data or reasoning. People need to wise up and get their heads out of the clouds ffs you condescending arse.

I'm done too, we are having a party this weekend and as the weather won't be great it will be inside. Everyone is vaccinated, I simply had enough with one rule for the elite and other for us. We worked from home and wore masks, we didn't go overseas, we didn't see our kids for months on end meanwhile others were "visiting relatives" or "on business" in their thousands and brought back the delta variant

@flameprincess

I am going to stop wearing a mask. I wore a mask all last summer while heavily pregnant when shopping and again in hospital for every appointment and it was miserable. I can't believe I'm still having to do it in this fucking heat and I'm double vaccinated now. If everyone needs to be vaccinated because it prevents transmission then why do I need to wear a mask? What am I protecting people from?

Vaccination doesn't prevent anyone from catching or transmitting. It's supposed to prevent you dying of it. That's why you're wearing a mask. I'm 50. Only had my second vaccination last weekend. It'll be a few months before everyone is fully vaccinated, and in the meantime, this virus is mutating. That's what viruses do.

*He had a bbq. Outdoors. I want to get married - outdoors

He had a drinks reception. Outdoors. I want a drinks reception outdoors

He had canapes. Outdoors. I want canapes outdoors

Selfish I know but I want what he had (plus a registrar - the demanding princess that I am!)*

But people can do that outdoors with thirty people so crack on.

@ollyollyoxenfree, we don’t need to track down every last case of a virus that 99% of people survive. We don’t do that for any other fairly benign virus so why the continued obsession with this one now we know all about it and have vaccines. More harm is being done by vaccine side effects we have been told we should be grateful for and mental health crisis created by lockdowns and continued restrictions than this proxy virus and any of its mutations.

It'll be a few months before everyone is fully vaccinated, and in the meantime, this virus is mutating.

It’ll be years before the rest of the world is vaccinated (if it ever happens) and mutations are no longer on the horizon, so what is the plan long term?

@maddiemookins16mum

There’s not an awful lot we can’t do now is there (massive weddings and clubbing aside).

Those whose livelihoods depend on hospitality which can't reopen, and those who can't get appointments with their hospital consultants, for example, would disagree.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

*He had a bbq. Outdoors. I want to get married - outdoors

He had a drinks reception. Outdoors. I want a drinks reception outdoors

He had canapes. Outdoors. I want canapes outdoors

Selfish I know but I want what he had (plus a registrar - the demanding princess that I am!)*

But people can do that outdoors with thirty people so crack on.

No - we can't stand around having a drink at our wedding next month if restrictions aren't lifted.

We'd be in our seats, wearing masks to go to the loo.

No mingling, no canapés

[quote Lostinacloud]@ollyollyoxenfree, we don’t need to track down every last case of a virus that 99% of people survive. We don’t do that for any other fairly benign virus so why the continued obsession with this one now we know all about it and have vaccines. More harm is being done by vaccine side effects we have been told we should be grateful for and mental health crisis created by lockdowns and continued restrictions than this proxy virus and any of its mutations.[/quote]
gah

if it hasn't sunk in by now I don't think it ever will

I'll just repeat that being completely in the dark about case numbers, R, mutation rates, and new variants of concern is not a good strategy.

Vaccination doesn't prevent anyone from catching or transmitting. It's supposed to prevent you dying of it. That's why you're wearing a mask. I'm 50. Only had my second vaccination last weekend. It'll be a few months before everyone is fully vaccinated, and in the meantime, this virus is mutating. That's what viruses do.

It massively reduces the likelihood of catching it if you're exposed, or transmitting it if you catch it, though. So in the majority of cases, it does exactly those things - which is why countries like the US have differential restrictions for the fully vaxxed.

I do think that it's right the restrictions continue for another month as they are because the Prime Minister and his government squandered everyone's hard work and sacrifices to save face with Modi rather than following the data as they did with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

If delta hadn't been allowed to be seeded so thoroughly in this country before we were ready to meet it with a wall of vaccination we wouldn't be in this mess, we wouldn't have increasing numbers of countries closing their borders to us (four more today?) and we wouldn't be in the situation where extending restrictions is the only sensible short term option.

We also have a virus that is strong and could, and to some extent is, evade vaccines. Just because people are vaccinated it does not mean the virus will stop mutating and especially if it is allowed to spread at high rates even in the vaccinated. What if it mutates to be more dangerous, to a wider age demographic, and evades this current vaccine at higher rates? What then?

All of this could also happen if restrictions are allowed to continue or are tightened. Viruses spread and mutate, it's what they do. So what do you suggest? Shall we just live with restrictions forever and hope for the best?

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

*He had a bbq. Outdoors. I want to get married - outdoors

He had a drinks reception. Outdoors. I want a drinks reception outdoors

He had canapes. Outdoors. I want canapes outdoors

Selfish I know but I want what he had (plus a registrar - the demanding princess that I am!)*

But people can do that outdoors with thirty people so crack on.

No they can't.

@Thewiseoneincognito if id lost someone to Covid i wouldnt be putting a laughing smiley on the end of one of my posts. Sorry but i find that strange.

@TheVampiresWife

We also have a virus that is strong and could, and to some extent is, evade vaccines. Just because people are vaccinated it does not mean the virus will stop mutating and especially if it is allowed to spread at high rates even in the vaccinated. What if it mutates to be more dangerous, to a wider age demographic, and evades this current vaccine at higher rates? What then?

All of this could also happen if restrictions are allowed to continue or are tightened. Viruses spread and mutate, it's what they do. So what do you suggest? Shall we just live with restrictions forever and hope for the best?

not the pp

but as has been explained manyyyy times, a virus only has the opportunity to mutate if it is replicating in a host

so more transmission = more mutations = higher chance of new variants that may escape prior immunity

suppression measures do exactly that, supress transmission and reduce the chance of this happening (or at least keep it at a manageable level we can cope with)

Not RTFT but I find it frustrating when people equate a meeting of political leaders with the everyday person’s meet-ups. All of them will have had PCR tests beforehand. Undoubtedly more than one. If I meet up with friends the best case scenario is that we (might) do a lateral flow test beforehand.

I think half the problem is this ridiculous ‘freedom day’ nonsense that’s fired everyone up. I was in London a few weeks ago. I stayed in a nice hotel, I went to the bar for drinks, I went to the spa and had a massage, I went in the pool and thermal centre, I dressed up and went out for dinner that eve. I went shopping. I went in the London eye. Totally normal bar wearing a mask walking around the hotel and having table service so I don’t see the issue with having to do that a bit longer. It’s also easy to meet friends outside in summer so no big deal there either if it’s all delayed a few weeks to push up vaccination rates further.

so more transmission = more mutations = higher chance of new variants that may escape prior immunity

Which even with a full lockdown would happen in the rest of the world. See Brazil, where loads of people had immunity from the dominant variant.

So what is the point on trashing everything to reduce the risk of something which is going to happen anyway?