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I can’t bear the thought of another full lockdown but it seems inevitable

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cantfaceitalloveragain · 04/06/2021 17:19

I’ve only just this week been allowed to see sister without social distancing, as she lives in residential care, had a lovely meal and a big hug but at the end all I could think was, will it be another year before we can meet again? She’s been hugely, horribly affected by this virus - she’s dreadfully ill through anxiety - and has been only just told this week she can see two relatives and one friend, and she might be allowed back to day care services the end of this month - first time since Feb 2020 .

I can’t bear the thought of another year indoors, no haircuts, no socialising, no shopping, no travel, no seeing sister or friends or family ...

I live in a tiny village with shit public transport that was largely stoped over both lockdowns ... can’t bear another year in this three mile square and relying on online delivery and zoom ... GP rang this morning and even yapping to her I thought, how lovely it would be to see someone else face to face - most friends and family are still heavily avoiding all socialising, this is my experience of most people now that there’s a lot of fear and anxiety around covid .

I realise restrictions are necessary and probably inevitable, and things could be so so much worse - but I’m struggling so much now . Finding I’m dreading getting out of bed as I keep thinking, what’s coming next?

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Roonerspismed · 04/06/2021 18:16

Naaaa. We have saved the bloody NHs. Deaths are low.

Time to embrace that it’s not going away.

We must never lockdown again. We must NEVER close schools again

Quartz2208 · 04/06/2021 18:16

I thought at the moment hospitalisations were more A&E visits and short stays due to the age of the patients so that has changed as well

TheVampiresWife · 04/06/2021 18:16

Covid is endemic, there will always be variants (some more deadly/transmissible, some less so), some people will become very ill and sadly die, most people will be vaccinated/not suffer severe illness. This is just what living with covid looks like. It's harsh and shit but true. At some point we will have to accept that like so many other awful diseases (all of which were new, once), people will probably die from it - thanks to vaccines, this number will be lower than it otherwise would be, thankfully.

There will have to come a point where we just get in with it. I'm not sure we're absolutely at that point yet (we need more people to be fully vaccinated for a start), but we're definitely at the point where lockdowns need to be a thing of the past.

TheVampiresWife · 04/06/2021 18:17

get on with it

PrincessNutNuts · 04/06/2021 18:17

@PaulGallico

You can't get 'zero covid'
We just had a day of zero covid deaths this week. It was lovely.

When our numbers get really low it reminds me how close we get to zero covid.

Especially now we have the vaccines

But you're right.

We can't have zero covid in this country.

We don't have to tools.

We'd need effective border and quarantine policy, and a fit for purpose test trace and isolate system.

And I've lost hope that our government will ever put them in place.

They prefer lockdowns. Apparently.

PaulGallico · 04/06/2021 18:18

@TheVampiresWife - absolutely agree with your post.

Bluntness100 · 04/06/2021 18:19

[quote shakingstevensfan]@Bluntness100 everything I have read says that those being hospitalised are younger than in the previous waves. They do seem less likely to die, but if numbers are too high then not everyone will be able to get hospital treatment.
My personal view is the jury is still out on what will happen. Cases are going to continue rising, but enough to justify a lockdown? I have no idea.[/quote]
No this isn’t true, I posted on another thread the links to the demographics posted by the government for the Uk. It’s the same age range as before, just they are unvaccinated.

wigwoo · 04/06/2021 18:19

As others have said, cases will rise as Covid can be caught and passed on whether you've had a vaccine or not. However the main thing is deaths and hospitalisations stay down.

shakingstevensfan · 04/06/2021 18:20

@Quartz2208

I thought at the moment hospitalisations were more A&E visits and short stays due to the age of the patients so that has changed as well
No some are A and E visits some hospitalizations. Delta variant in preliminary research makes it more than twice as likely people will be hospitalised and 1.6 times more likely they will visit A and E. Hospitalisations are shorter because this is younger people being hospitalised than in previous variants. In previous waves either they were very elderly and frail who died quickly, or they took a long time to die or get better. Look at Derek Draper who was in hospital for months. With younger healthier people being hospitalised they tend to get better much quicker.
shakingstevensfan · 04/06/2021 18:21

@Bluntness100 with the Delta variant? I am not talking about overall numbers but about what I have read about the Delta variant.

Blueskytoday06 · 04/06/2021 18:22

Nah I can't see another lockdown happening.

PaulGallico · 04/06/2021 18:22

@PrincessNutNuts Even with effective boarder controls and quarantine policy you will not get zero covid - that is not how the virus works. There will always be covid, with vaccines we will learn to live with it.

Kissthepastrychef · 04/06/2021 18:24

As long as hospitalisations don't rise the infection levels don't matter. If 90% of the population caught the common cold nobody would give a shit would they ?

PreservativeFree · 04/06/2021 18:25

I'm perfectly happy with 100s of thousands of cases if very few of them are getting seriously ill. Why wouldn't you be? That would be like saying you're not happy that chickenpox is allowed to run rife, or indeed the common cold.

Anyway there won't be another full lockdown. People just won't stand for it.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/06/2021 18:25

I won't be going into lockdown

So what will you being doing then @inmyslippers ?

Going about business as usual and spreading the virus? It's selfish people like you that are keeping the possibility of another lockdown real.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 04/06/2021 18:26

I agree with your post @TheVampiresWife

shakingstevensfan · 04/06/2021 18:27

I have no idea if there will be another lockdown or not. But if there is it will be because the government know the consequences of not doing so are far worse than the backlash of imposing another lockdown.
I am aware that they have put Portugal on the amber list because of three cases of the Nepal variant. That makes me very wary.

shakingstevensfan · 04/06/2021 18:29

And if they do have to do a lockdown they will close more businesses than they would have before as they know lots of people will ignore any rules about not seeing families and friends.

Scrambledcustard · 04/06/2021 18:29

@SonnetForSpring

It's not sarcastic. So many on MN don't seen to live and the real world and have a scooby what is happening. The third wave has started and the gov are doing nothing. By the time they do something, it will probably require a lock down.
So what was the point of the vaccine?
PrincessNutNuts · 04/06/2021 18:30

[quote PaulGallico]@PrincessNutNuts Even with effective boarder controls and quarantine policy you will not get zero covid - that is not how the virus works. There will always be covid, with vaccines we will learn to live with it.[/quote]
Well, let's hope the PM opens up on June 21st then, and we all get a good look at what "living with the virus" looks like.

Bluntness100 · 04/06/2021 18:31

[quote shakingstevensfan]@Bluntness100 with the Delta variant? I am not talking about overall numbers but about what I have read about the Delta variant.[/quote]
The demographics of hospital admissions and deaths do not differentiate between Indian (delta) or Kent variant. But the age groups aren’t changing. They are changing in who is infected though, it’s younger people. But that’s not translating to hospital admissions yet

There is nothing to say the Indian variant is more lethal to younger people than the Kent variant, for both mutations it’s a minor cold like illness for the overwhelming majority,

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 04/06/2021 18:32

If we lockdown again with current vaccination rates then it will almost be like accepting that we will be in and out of lockdown regardless of the vaccines. There will always be further mutations - that is just what a virus does. We either standby the protection of the jabs or accept endless fucking lockdowns.

DadAManger · 04/06/2021 18:32

@SonnetForSpring

It's not sarcastic. So many on MN don't seen to live and the real world and have a scooby what is happening. The third wave has started and the gov are doing nothing. By the time they do something, it will probably require a lock down.
This...^
Crowtooyo · 04/06/2021 18:32

Stop scaremongering. Instead of worrying about this, push your energy towards the anti vaxxers instead.

sociallydistained · 04/06/2021 18:33

The talk of more lockdowns really pissed me off. We can’t enjoy what little freedom we have because people are always fear-mongering Hmm

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