Delta Variant Appears More Severe

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Source of info here:

mobile.twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1400486742914895876

@MaxNormal

Huge sacrifices are often needed in order to save thousands of lives

And yet, before 2020 we never bothered.
There are still millions of children dying preventable due to poverty each year. Worse now since the pandemic.
Their lives seem of as little value as ever though. No one gives a solitary shit.

Exactly this. Wonder how many folk before donated all their savings to charity, offered a spare bedroom to a homeless person, or instead of going out for dinner gave that money to someone in need. Going out for dinner is a luxury so you can live without doing it ever again right?? No? Yet people are selfish for wanting ao see family and friends normally? Give me a break. Its ridiculous this moral superiority.

@Quartz2208

Yes we know that everyone has made huge sacrifices but will vaccines holding up the only sacrifice that should be made is a sensible delay to freedom day and holding off of foreign travel until August to get more people vaccinated. And a sensible plan for vaccinating the over 12s.

You’ll have to climb over my cold dead body to get your hands on my 12 year olds.

@Quartz2208

Yes we know that everyone has made huge sacrifices but will vaccines holding up the only sacrifice that should be made is a sensible delay to freedom day and holding off of foreign travel until August to get more people vaccinated. And a sensible plan for vaccinating the over 12s.

Exactly, it's just a delay.

The way it looks like it's going with the reluctance to take it seriously, probably means another lockdown. Which no one wants. But that's what we will get due to incompetence and lack of teamwork.

We weren’t talking about “seeing friends and family normally” though, posters on here were saying they were going to do “everything they wanted to”.

@TinaYouFatLard

I really don’t know anyone who gives a fuck anymore.

Same

If They try and extend this lockdown easing i don't know anyone who will abide by it now. It's a fucking farce

Do you think if you have already had Covid (all my family) then there would at least be resistance to the scarier version in your T cells?

People need to really give their heads a wobble if they're still relying on the government to advise them on whether it is sensible to hug granny/ travel to India/ have covid party.

You're grown ups. You recreate, you drive, you vote, you drink. If you need the government to tell you it isn't a good idea to travel to a country with bodies piling up from covid infections, you're beyond help.

Israel is on the green list but most people have the good sense not to book a week on the Gaza Strip...

Yes @Mistlewoeandwhine.

@shetlandponies I get married on 3rd July. If they don't unlock on 21st June how can I not comply? I don't even know how much money I'd have to put on the line to expect everyone to two fingers up at the restrictions. I think it's £10k for us hosting plus £100 for every single person who attends. Do you get 30 people fine free?!

I also agree with sensible responsibility. If I have symptoms, I’ll test. If I feel oddly under the weather, I’ll happily test. I have covid, I’ll isolate. Much the same as I would with flu or a vomiting bug. I don’t want to pass them on knowingly as they are unpleasant.

But we cannot live our lives in fear that we may asymptomatically pass on covid & kill someone. I don’t think many people can willingly take on that level of collective responsibility after 18 months of missing loved ones & the sacrifices their kids have made in education etc. At this point, it is natural to look only at your immediate interests as a priority. Of course, I don’t want to harm anyone but I’m willing to wear masks & regularly test and get on with life.

@pineappleknickers

People need to really give their heads a wobble if they're still relying on the government to advise them on whether it is sensible to hug granny/ travel to India/ have covid party.

You're grown ups. You recreate, you drive, you vote, you drink. If you need the government to tell you it isn't a good idea to travel to a country with bodies piling up from covid infections, you're beyond help.

Israel is on the green list but most people have the good sense not to book a week on the Gaza Strip...

Totally. Ive got no sympathy with anyone booking abroad then moaning when things change. I read a post earlier that stated the writer doesn't do holidays in the uk. They were british. I wanted to find my tiny violin for them

@Racoonworld

I think they will have a hard time persuading anyone who's been vaccinated to comply with any more restrictions. It's done now, most people just want to get on with their life. I'm not doing anything more.

Well if they took the vaccine to protect themselves from getting sick with covid then surely they will still want that result and with the vaccine seeming to fall short then they will only be putting themselves at risk. To be honest we shielded for over a year, I'm happy enough to do that again if needs be and let the rest of the people get "back to normal" and there's a large section of society now that keep droning on about how over this they are, how it's gone on for too long (like a pandemic was gonna just suit their timescales) and how they won't comply....I wouldn't be sad to see them wiped out in another wave to be honest.

Do you believe that this Delta variant is more severe - I don’t ...

Where do they get this information from? It’s the most dominant variant here now isn’t it? But hospitalisations are down still - so where’s the proof that this variant is more severe?

I'm also done with the whole thing now although I'm getting married in Sept so that's a bit worrying.

@Dustyboots

Do you believe that this Delta variant is more severe - I don’t ...

Where do they get this information from? It’s the most dominant variant here now isn’t it? But hospitalisations are down still - so where’s the proof that this variant is more severe?

They’ve looked at cases in hospital and worked out how much more likely you are to end up there if you’ve got a delta (Indian) variant infection compared with alpha (Kent) infection. Clever scientists have done this research which you can find in the latest public health release.

Hospital admissions don’t rise immediately after cases go up. There’s a lag.

There’s a lot of uncertainty at the moment.

@Dustyboots

Do you believe that this Delta variant is more severe - I don’t ...

Where do they get this information from? It’s the most dominant variant here now isn’t it? But hospitalisations are down still - so where’s the proof that this variant is more severe?

What's your expert scientific qualification then?

@jumpbounce - do I need a scientific qualification to have and express thoughts? To ask questions ...

[quote SallyBasingstoke]@jumpbounce and what's your scientific qualification?

Your post at 23:25 states " and there's a large section of society now that keep droning on about how over this they are, how it's gone on for too long (like a pandemic was gonna just suit their timescales) and how they won't comply....I wouldn't be sad to see them wiped out in another wave to be honest."

What a disgusting post saying you would like to see people wiped out who are sick to death of lockdowns whilst in your own words you are " prepared to shield for another year".

Just because you are prepared to hide away for another year, don't foist your terror on others of covid wishing they would get " wiped out"[/quote]
Well to be fair the very same people I am talking about are those who feel they aren't at risk and don't want to have any changes to their lives to protect those who are at risk. So they are fairly happy for the rest of the country to be wiped out just so they can have normal pre 2020 lives. You only have to read the comments where they openly state they don't care if they pass it on to a vulnerable person etc so why would you expect me to care if they contract it and die?
I don't have terror over covid just very realistic about the situation we are in. We shielded for over a year to protect our very young vulnerable DC and I have absolutely no regrets about that and would do it all over again without hesitation...meanwhile on these threads it's full of complete and utter drama about wearing a damn face covering.

twitter.com/davidlvbauer/status/1400580669244428289?s=21

Couldn’t give a single fuck anymore. I’m not hiding away living a half life for a second longer. I’ve done the lockdowns I’ve had my vaccines and I’m done with it. A husband being diagnosed with a brain tumour out of the blue will do that to you. You aren’t guaranteed time on this earth and hiding away over one virus isn’t gonna stop you getting sick and dying of something else I’m afraid.

I’m not hiding away living a half life for a second longer.

I'm not either. Life is fleeting and snatches us away at any time for all number of reasons. I know - and it's not Covid that's taken my precious family members from me. We can't hide from all the other things that pose a risk to us - so why hide from Covid.

@TinaYouFatLard

I really don’t know anyone who gives a fuck anymore.

Quite