Delta Variant Appears More Severe

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Source of info here:

mobile.twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1400486742914895876

It’s also worth pointing out that they think it COULD increase your risk of hospitalisation BUT further data is required.

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@Racoonworld and do you care if you pass it on to anyone, especially someone vulnerable unable to have the vaccine[/quote]
As much as I care about passing any other disease onto others. Everyone needs to do their own risk assessment now. I’m low risk and have had my vaccine, I therefore am not concerned about covid anymore and won’t let it rule my life.

@Racoonworld and do you care if you pass it on to anyone, especially someone vulnerable unable to have the vaccine

Before this we Didn't have to worry about everyone, and if they are that vunerable flu would likely kill them.

and do you care if you pass it on to anyone

This is not something I worry about. I might have passed on colds or flu in the past that lead to people's deaths.

[quote Againstmachine]**@Racoonworld and do you care if you pass it on to anyone, especially someone vulnerable unable to have the vaccine

Before this we Didn't have to worry about everyone, and if they are that vunerable flu would likely kill them.[/quote]
Yes exactly this. I bet we’ve all passed things on to vulnerable people before and never worried about it. We can’t be personally responsible for others.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/03/india-covid-variant-may-increase-risk-of-hospital-admission-early-data-suggests?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

An analysis of 38,805 sequenced cases in England revealed that the Delta variant was associated with a 2.61 fold higher risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date compared with the Alpha variant. There was a 1.67 times higher risk of A&E care within 14 days.

Does that include relatives too @Racoonworld?

@Needanewhat

My friends will certainly give a fuck if this government continues to prevent them from earning a living and feeding their families.

Their livelihoods will be fucked regardless if the government allows the virus to run rampant. Do you honestly not get that?

I'm speaking as someone from a family of musicians and people who work in the theatre.

Where is the cost/benefit analysis which demonstrates this?

@ineedaholidaynow

Does that include relatives too *@Racoonworld*?

all my family have had at least one vaccine. Vulnerable family are double vaccinated. They are all getting on with life as normal too.

People need to stop thinking it's a individuals responsibility to protect every one else it really isn't, it never has been, Community/society/social responsibility what ever you want to call it , doesn't care rest of time but all of of sudden we are expected to protect.

@ineedaholidaynow

Does that include relatives too *@Racoonworld*?

Not sure what you’re getting at? I don’t have vulnerable family.

@Againstmachine why I had norovirus I couldn't visit my nan in a care home and so missed her 100th birthday, I didn't want her to get it but I also didn't want any of the other residents to get it too. So I was thinking of relatives and other people too.

If people don't think of others does that mean you send children into school within 48 hours of D&V episode.

Are we just not mentioned the big letters next to it that state the confidence in that data is LOW??

But it isn't my problem to look after everyone else.

People need to take personal responsibility.

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@Racoonworld and do you care if you pass it on to anyone, especially someone vulnerable unable to have the vaccine[/quote]
I don't to be honest. I'm having my vaccines, what more can I do? I'm not going to live a half life forever to protect people who are strangers to me. If that sounds harsh, so be it. I expect many others feel the same.

@Waxonwaxoff0 I feel the same. It’s not my responsibility.

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@Racoonworld and do you care if you pass it on to anyone, especially someone vulnerable unable to have the vaccine[/quote]
I do care but not enough to not live my life incase I inadvertently pass on a virus to someone. I had covid in march. I have had my first vaccine and will have my second. I have done enough to protect other people.

An analysis of 38,805 sequenced cases in England revealed that the Delta variant was associated with a 2.61 fold higher risk of hospitalisation within 14 days of specimen date compared with the Alpha variant. There was a 1.67 times higher risk of A&E care within 14 days. These figures take into account factors such as age, sex, ethnicity, area of residence and vaccination status .

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/03/india-covid-variant-may-increase-risk-of-hospital-admission-early-data-suggests

I think they will have a hard time persuading anyone who's been vaccinated to comply with any more restrictions. It's done now, most people just want to get on with their life. I'm not doing anything more.

I don’t know anyone who really cares any more either. The general attitude among my circle and colleagues (we’ve worked throughout) seems to be that we’ve got vaccines now, cases are low, deaths are low and we just need to get on with it.

I feel I’ve done enough now for people to whom I’m not connected. I’ve kind of reached my limit and can’t/won’t do anymore.

[quote Racoonworld]@Waxonwaxoff0 I feel the same. It’s not my responsibility.[/quote]
Yes. Unfortunately, it's always been a way of life that some people have more health vulnerabilities than others.

I assume the government think that renaming the India variant to Delta will mean people will think its a new variant. I hope they don't.

This government allowed thousands of people to travel to India and return knowing it was spreading like wildfire and the bodies were piling up. They refused to put India on the red list and we are now all having to suffer the consequences.

They went too far this time, I think they will struggle to get people to go back now.

@2021Vision it was the WHO who renamed the variants, not the UK government.

@Needanewhat

People will certainly give a fuck if the government does decide to just let the variant do its thing and not do anything at all.

The virus is quite happy if people don't give a fuck.

At some point surely the government have to give up peddling whatever variant they’ve chosen this week? People aren’t scared anymore and it’s not working, thankfully. Unless they can pull out actual zombies I’m done.