But I have to say given that Chris Hopson is saying the the NH chiefs are saying that it has what makes you say it hasnt
I think we always have to be careful to think about WHEN someone said something, and what the data was like on that date, especially in the current situation where new information is coming in daily and the picture is changing rapidly.
Given the lag in dates between case numbers rising, and then the 'historically expected' hospital admission rise and then the 'historically expected' rise in deaths, those speaking so far have always been very careful to talk about 'early indications' or 'preliminary data' - because the conclusions can so easily be overtaken by later events.
It is quite possible - though please let it not happen - that despite hopeful early signs, the extremely rapid rise in cases does lead to an increase in hospital admissions that is flattened but still rises rapidly, showing the link is only partially severed, or that the rate of illness in the millions of unvaccinated and partially vaccinated is high enough to cause real concern. That won't mean that Chris Hopson was wrong based on the data that he had at the time, just that later data showed something different.