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Data, Stat, Daily Numbers started 26th May 2021

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boys3 · 26/05/2021 10:54

UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Covid 19 Variant Mapping Sanger Institute covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council area in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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sirfredfredgeorge · 08/06/2021 17:22

GP's specifically do not need to do any immigration stuff and accept any nationality without checks, and should refer even if they have reason to believe the person wouldn't be entitled to free health care. It's actually a remarkably pleasant policy and one the home secretary clearly hasn't noticed.

But that does make it worse in many ways, the most marginalised are not avoiding the GPs for rational reasons, but rather than assist them into getting vaccinated in a way that will protect their rights, it's being done in a way that could harm them if they ever need to prove vaccination status.

MRex · 08/06/2021 17:23

[quote sirfredfredgeorge]@Mrex - it's only evil if vaccine passports exist, they do not currently in the UK - however the government has said they will play a part, so unless use of the buses is because they've been ruled out, I say it's evil.

But also international travel is still relevant, there would certainly need to be a mechanism for the individual to recapture their vaccinated status some how to allow vaccinated travel - as you recognise one of the reasons you wouldn't want an NHS number etc. is if you are an undocumented immigrant, making it impossible for them to travel is evil.[/quote]
People can give details if they want, or not if they don't. They will have a physical proof of vaccination that they could keep and give to a GP if they register. The other options are either not to vaccinate non-NHS, or not to allow residents the privilege vaccine confirmation can give them abroad. I don't think either of those options are acceptable. You can't seriously think it's a better outcome for undocumented immigrants to be denied vaccinations?

antsy · 08/06/2021 17:24

@MRex I got asked so many questions about my GP etc when I got my jab. I did not know it was possible to be jabbed except when they announce extra special measures.

sirfredfredgeorge · 08/06/2021 17:24

@TheSunIsStillShining positivity rates and comparisons between countries are not meaningful, the methodologies and reporting differences are simply too different, there would be no need for the government to massage any figures.

sirfredfredgeorge · 08/06/2021 17:26

They will have a physical proof of vaccination that they could keep and give to a GP if they register

If this is sufficient to get a "vaccine passport" then there is absolutely no point having a vaccine passport, remember I'm only talking about it being evil if people have to prove their vaccinated status, something which many people have and are calling for, not just for overseas travel.

MRex · 08/06/2021 17:28

@sirfredfredgeorge

GP's specifically do not need to do any immigration stuff and accept any nationality without checks, and should refer even if they have reason to believe the person wouldn't be entitled to free health care. It's actually a remarkably pleasant policy and one the home secretary clearly hasn't noticed.

But that does make it worse in many ways, the most marginalised are not avoiding the GPs for rational reasons, but rather than assist them into getting vaccinated in a way that will protect their rights, it's being done in a way that could harm them if they ever need to prove vaccination status.

The information leaflet about GP registration is also at the link I just attached, why would you think that isn't available to people? Ironically, vaccine buses might be one way of reaching people who cannot usually be reached, and giving them those messages.
DementedPanda · 08/06/2021 17:30

Northumberland looking good.. 86.9% of all adults have had their first dose and 58.6% have had both doses.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/06/2021 17:31

[quote sirfredfredgeorge]@TheSunIsStillShining positivity rates and comparisons between countries are not meaningful, the methodologies and reporting differences are simply too different, there would be no need for the government to massage any figures.[/quote]
Do you think they need an excuse or even any rational reason to lie? All of them are pathological liars who couldn't tell to truth if their lives depended on it.
Apart from that, you do have, sort of, a point. If we are rational, normal humans.
on the other hand quasi-authoritarian systems put great value at saving face at all costs towards the world - we see this in action every day.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/06/2021 17:36

Btw, my H just pointed out that even though we didn't have even these how case numbers ppl were dying in hundreds and more last year this time(ish). So however doom and gloom one may be over where we are headed, we are in a much better position than a year ago.
Just to point out the faint silver lining :)

Wakeupin2022 · 08/06/2021 19:44

Whilst I wouldn't put anything past this government I do think we have enough checks and balances in place to ensure that our data is as reliable as it can be. And probably I would trust UK numbers over pretty much anywhere in the world because of the sheer volume of testing we do, the random sampling done by ONS. We did definitely have an issue last year with number of deaths recorded as Covid but they were unable to cover that up due to the checks and balances in place. And they weren't allowed too. Remember initially they only reported hospital deaths when really the biggest issue was care homes and deaths at home.

Cases are going up and these are being identified. By using both the LFT for everyone and PcR for symptoms we have the best chance of identifying cases.

Yes I guess LFTs will reduce the overall positivity rate, but hospitalizations are the key indicator about the pandemic.

I think now, the managing of the pandemic in the UK is excellent after a bad start. Where we continuously let ourselves down is our borders. The fault for that is solely on the government.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/06/2021 20:02

You are, also, right. It's the discrepancy of int'l dataset vs gov dashboard. I am way past the point of questioning the dashboar numbers. They had a rough start, but it either is inconsistently lying or things got sorted and is now good. I don't think anyone can live a normal life questioning everything :)

where I don't agree with you is that by now gov is handling the situation well. But let's just agree to disagree. Time (and history books) will tell ....

Wakeupin2022 · 08/06/2021 20:20

Sun I don't think the govt are handling it well. I do however think they are being well advised.

I am sure the advice from Sage would not have supported India being an Amber country for so long.

WaitroseAldi · 08/06/2021 21:20

Do you think the 21st will be delayed?

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/06/2021 22:21

Just read a Guardian article saying Sunak will accept up to 4 weeks’ delay if that means there’s no chance of reverse or piecemeal, unclear changes. 4 weeks would take us up to end of the school term which should help stem infection growth.

Just seen this, reported in Lancet as well:
www.crick.ac.uk/news/2021-06-03_pfizer-biontech-vaccine-recipients-have-lower-antibody-levels-targeting-the-delta-variant-first-discovered-in-india?fbclid=IwAR3CrvBpcJtgrvYh1CpKV6Ai3nA6H1IewyyIG9qzKBmeWs7SLQgM1RapkuM

CommanderBurnham · 08/06/2021 22:21

@TheSunIsStillShining why the WHO has not introduced a standard reporting format, I don't know, with clear definitions of 'Covid Death' etc.

It's usually the first place I go to for basic definitions related to health.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/06/2021 22:41

@CommanderBurnham (like the name :))
The WHO has shown how much of a theater it is. The purpose would have had been to be an org that can step up when something like this happens. But somewhere along the line this got diluted to the point that they didn't do what one would expect as a bare min - reporting standards.

I was expecting/hoping that Who would produce from their hat a Pandemic Playbook at the beginning but instead they have just been wishy washy and "advice" and bs.
As a planet/human race - we need organizations that are above countries (nato, un, unicef, who,...), but I don't see the who even trying to reform itself.... hope they will.

Last Feb we had 2 weeks of downtown at the company I was working at and to try out a few new techniques we did a few workshops on covid dashboard design. My starting statement was: We are here contracted by WHO and I need a WHO representative. This dashboard will be the golden standard for the whole world.
To say the least: I was branded a moron.

CommanderBurnham · 08/06/2021 22:52

@TheSunIsStillShining it's so disappointing that there isn't a global view on this. I wish you all the success in your endeavours

titchy · 08/06/2021 23:05

[quote CommanderBurnham]@TheSunIsStillShining why the WHO has not introduced a standard reporting format, I don't know, with clear definitions of 'Covid Death' etc.

It's usually the first place I go to for basic definitions related to health. [/quote]
Surely it's because health and lab infrastructure varies so much from country to country? Presumably the gold standard would be PCR testing. But why would Yemen for example spend its very very scarce resources on that. Hell even the UK couldn't manage PCRs for everyone at the beginning.

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/06/2021 23:08

LFT testing rates set to go up as supervised in school testing is reintroduced in all of Manchester.

TheSunIsStillShining · 08/06/2021 23:11

@titchy
Gold standard could be a lot of things and also in tiers for developed/developing countries. It could range from dashboard/reporting standards to actual lab process standards. I can't imagine that a lab process differs that much by country - it makes no sense.
Also, a playbook could distinguish between measures for islands, landlocked countries. Or countries who rely on outside agricultural products, etc... There could be so many levels to it.
Some should be mandatory - for ease of comparison (data), some would be recommendations and some would be must to keep others safe as well....
at least that's how I would start structuring such a playbook.

titchy · 08/06/2021 23:18

I can't imagine that a lab process differs that much by country

While the physical process for say PCR testing is the same the world over, if you're a country which only has one lab that can test and three people working there can you not imagine a problem. Plus issues dealing with remote populations, corrupt officials, cultural issues, other financial priorities (would you like our roadmap to be based on LFT only?).

Unless the WHO is going to resource it, and countries allow them to, I can't see how there could ever be a single playbook that works for all.

A tiered system which recognises all those issues might help though I agree.

titchy · 08/06/2021 23:19

And don't forget if you have too many levels of a tiered system it becomes meaningless as a tool for comparison, which is what it would be needed for.

JanFebAnyMonth · 08/06/2021 23:21

Hospitalisations in Greater Manchester (from HSJ which is paywalled):

Covid occupancy at Manchester University Foundation Trust stood at 49 today, up from 27 on Friday.
Senior source says: “We are worried but don’t know quite where we are heading”
The number of covid patients in Manchester’s hospitals almost doubled over the weekend, HSJ understands.

According to internal data, covid occupancy at Manchester University Foundation Trust stood at 49 on Monday morning, up from 27 on Friday morning. The number of covid patients in critical care increased from six to 10.
Across Greater Manchester — including MUFT — the number of covid patients in hospitals rose from around 130 patients on Friday to 165 on Monday. The numbers in critical care across the city region increased from 17 to just over 30 over the weekend.
It is understood that young unvaccinated men with an Asian background account for a significant number of the admissions.
At its peak last spring, Manchester University Foundation Trust had around 430 covid patients.
The trust runs Manchester Royal Infirmary, Wythenshawe Hospital and North Manchester General Hospital.
One source at the FT said serious covid cases were becoming more regular and added: “We are worried but don’t know quite where we are heading.”
There have also been reports of high numbers of pregnant women being admitted with covid.
It comes after several weeks of increasing positive case rates in the region, particularly in Bolton. Bolton FT saw a surge in covid occupancy in the second half of May. This appeared to peak at around 50 on 29 May, and on Monday stood at 38.
There have been widespread concerns that high community transmission rates would spread across Greater Manchester and the wider North West region.
Covid bed occupancy in the wider North West region increased by more than 20 per cent over the weekend, driven largely by Greater Manchester, from around 200 patients to 245.
Another source in the wider Greater Manchester region said: “The [data] seems to show some of the optimism of last week might have been premature.”
It comes as government considers the next steps in its removal of lockdown measures, and has asserted that the link between growing cases and hospital admissions has been “broken but not severed”.
MUFT declined to comment, while a spokeswoman for the Greater Manchester integrated care system said: “While we are seeing a small rise in the number of patients being treated across our hospitals, it is in line with the rising rates of community infection we are seeing across Greater Manchester and not leading to any impact on our services.”

PracticingPerson · 08/06/2021 23:29

The falling numbers in hospital with Alpha variant nationally are masking the rising hospital cases from the Delta variant in the hotspots.

NannyAndJohn · 08/06/2021 23:36

Very worrying.

And nationwide a big jump up to 860 currently in hospital.

A one off blip or the beginning of a trend? (Hint: it's the latter)