So angry at the Government this evening

[Moonme]

I’m SO mad. I haven’t been on this board for months and I was feeling really optimistic about life feeling like it was returning to normal.
It is criminal that they have let this variant in. It’s literally ground hog day. Playing politics with public health to do trade deals (because of bloody Brexit) with India.
I know there is hope that the vaccines will do there jobs but we shouldn’t be in this position. This wasn’t inevitable. Arggh so cross

You can't blame the government for a public who won't make the right choices and think the rules don't apply to them. No one is making us go out to the shops every day etc.

@Miseryl

Those most st risk have had both their jabs and yet our young must continue to suffer? When will it end? What is your perfect set of conditions that will warrant society being able to function again?

I'd consider putting June easing of restrictions back a month until perhaps the end of July when every adult has been offered a vaccine and then vaccinate the secondary school children before the autumn term.

Once everyone has had a vaccine we have to just get on with it. As of now not many under 40's have had a vaccine, so the main demographics who socialise in groups will be perfect bait for the virus.

"A spokesperson for Tui said in a statement on Tuesday: “The health and safety of our customers and crew is always our highest priority"

So they don't give a fuck about the health and safety of normal people living in the UK then?

And they obviously don't care about health and safety enough to pay for two week hotel quarantine on arrival (knowing that covid has a 14 day (ish) incubation period).

@SunshineCake really isn’t to do with people going to Home Bargains...

Blocking Indians from coming here would have done nothing.
The Indian variant will find a way here indirectly as it has made its way out of India ages ago. Even green listed countries will have it.
Unless they restrict international travel to quarantined people, we will always be under the threat of a variant.
They didn’t and don’t want to stop international travel, if anything they are opening up to more of it.
You reap what you sow.

The whole problem is international travel and not having strict enforced quarantine.

Putting the economy first particularly the travel industry.

@plumpuddisnice I know. They probably actually mean the South Asian community specifically but think it doesn't sound quite as bad somehow to say 'BAME Community'. Hence talking about other groups in contrast, when of course there are only two groups - white/BAME.

Can we not just bloody shut the borders full stop now ...

Hahahha sorry all those saying we have given up soo much around 90% of the population have not followed the rules my dh finally went out last Saturday (other then school run) first time on a bus in over a year that was to get his jab and the amount of people around that still can't wear a face mask correctly is shocking, I go back to work next week and am dreading it 100s of people a day I have not even had the jab yet and I am high risk

The people who are most likely to die from this: the elderly and those with underlying conditions have had both jabs. There will always be risks to the elderly and those with conditions- do we permanently stifle society for that risk? 11 people died yesterday of COVID. How many from the mental health effects of the lockdowns and restrictions?

Who actually brought it on? Have they traced it properly? Flight details etc?

*in

When Trump tried to close the borders back in February last year, there were posters on Mumsnet who said he was a xenophobic idiot. Yet now Boris is slammed for keeping them open? Sorry, but you can’t have it both ways.

People are much more relaxed now, I’m on retail, we’ve been open all the way through

Less and less are wearing masks, more and more are wearing them under the chin. Nobody is sanitising hands and arrows/one way systems are just ignored

We won’t ever get a hold of it if it does take hold.

Anyone who travels out of the UK should have to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days on their return. No excuses, no exceptions.

And that may have to stay in place for the next 12 or even 24 months.

It's absolutely exhausting to keep going forward, then back, forward then back.

Hahahha sorry all those saying we have given up soo much around 90% of the population have not followed the rules

Yeh, no to both

@VaccineSticker

Blocking Indians from coming here would have done nothing. The Indian variant will find a way here indirectly as it has made its way out of India ages ago. Even green listed countries will have it. Unless they restrict international travel to quarantined people, we will always be under the threat of a variant. They didn’t and don’t want to stop international travel, if anything they are opening up to more of it. You reap what you sow.

Correct. Nothing short of an Australian style setup would stop the Indian variant getting in. It’s widespread now. I’m in Australia and as lovely as it is to live Covid free lives for now even we will eventually have to open the borders and live with a virus that is endemic and will never be eradicated. Shutting ourselves off from the world was only a short term strategy until vaccines were created and now until vaccines are administered. Isolating from the world has it’s own negative consequences.

I am more angry at the people who arrived from India and didnt quarantine.

I don’t know how much more of this people can realistically take.

I haven’t been able to travel to Scotland to see my parents in a year, I live in a place where I know no one except DH and dc, as moved here just before covid. I work at home and meet no one that way. It has been incredibly lonely and isolating. The only thing keeping me going is the thought of getting home in summer.

It's not just all fhat though, people do not realise just how isolated some people are within some communities, ie no language spoken at all having to rely on others or their dc and if their school are not interested some of people are rsally cut off.this is also part of the wider problem that goes on in many different ways.

They have to consider the whole picture, how many people die or suffer as an indirect result of lockdown. It's a balancing act with a lot of variables and unknowables. I don't think it's worth getting so agitated about something when you can't have all the facts.

@helpmebeanadult

India - should have been put on the red list earlier without a doubt. Why wasn't it? Boris wanted to go to India to do a trade deal. Numbers at the time although under reported, far exceeded the numbers for Pakistan which was on the red list. It's a bit tricky as PM to put India on the red list and then go yourself. It was only when the delay to putting India on the red list was being called out by all and sundry that he finally did it and postponed his trip. He's an absolute cunt.

Exactly this.

If I recall, he also didn't immediately introduce travel restrictions from India but gave them a few days notice. The result - people piling onto planes to get back to the UK.

You wouldn't want to run a corner shop in Bolton after tonight's briefing would you?

Shocking incompetence that this has been let in. Would they shut the borders properly if it was 50% more deadly? I doubt it.