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Data, Stats & Daily Numbers started 9th May

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boys3 · 09/05/2021 19:21

UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council area in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
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TeddingtonTrashbag · 21/05/2021 05:13

A 27 year old colleague is being vaccinated today (no underlying conditions-he was surprised to be called up but the GP has worked d through all the older ages in the practice.
A friend’s son (age 21) has been told by his surgery to expect a text for appointment in the next couple of weeks.

MargaretThursday · 21/05/2021 06:20

@JanFebAnyMonth

It just struck me as I cleaned my teeth:

Isn’t the most likely reason for seemingly high rates in children in Indian variant areas ( that Bolton graph posted by eg C Pagel) the fact that it is more likely to produce symptoms in children (read some comments from a doctor in India earlier) therefore it’s more likely they’ll be tested?

Maybe that has been said before on here, apologies if it has.

I wondered that about the Kent one too.
sirfredfredgeorge · 21/05/2021 06:42

15/58000 = 1 in 3867. I think this shows those who attend large events are more likely to have covid than average. Now I've written that, it's obvious of course. Don't mind me...

But are they? You've taken the average person, but how many over 40's were at the gigs, how many under 16's?

But what I guess it most shows, is that no super-spreaders turned up and managed to spread it throughout everyone.

Pootle40 · 21/05/2021 06:44

@Frazzled2207

Fairly terrifying graph of cases among 5-9 age group in Bolton

As a mother of two children in a nearby borough this is very worrying. Nobody wants more lockdowns and they don’t necessarily work anyway but is it really ok to let covid run riot through all the schools?
I’m guessing a lot of the cases are through surge testing and hopefully many have no symptoms

I wouldn't be trusting the tests
MRex · 21/05/2021 06:46

While all that's true @JanFebAnyMonth age @MargaretThursday, with few exceptions people with symptoms have a higher viral load than people without and are therefore thought to be more contagious (ignoring the early presymptomatic period). So more noticeable infections for younger children is a very bad thing for transmission.

I don't know how we get out of this without vaccinating children. And I think child vaccination rates will be very low until a variant makes children very poorly, by which time it's too late.

MRex · 21/05/2021 06:54

@sirfredfredgeorge

15/58000 = 1 in 3867. I think this shows those who attend large events are more likely to have covid than average. Now I've written that, it's obvious of course. Don't mind me...

But are they? You've taken the average person, but how many over 40's were at the gigs, how many under 16's?

But what I guess it most shows, is that no super-spreaders turned up and managed to spread it throughout everyone.

Yes, that's what I meant, that it's full of young people who are happy going out - so very few vaccinated and higher general infection rates are obvious.

While the lack of transmission sounds good, wasn't it thought for both Liverpool and Cheltenham that the issues causing so many infections were public transport, taxis and pubs linked with the event rather than the outside event itself? Cases were hidden because of low testing but much higher on 10-13 March (Cheltenham) and 11 March (Liverpool vs Atletico Madrid); nevertheless even a small proportion could have caused issues. I know a trial can't test everything, but I don't see how we quite get around the gathering issues of those crowds outside the events.

TheDinosaurTrain · 21/05/2021 06:59

A child in our primary school recently spent a long time on ICU with covid - if children were offered the vaccination I suspect there’d be 100% take up from our school community on day 1, given how afraid people were of this child not making it. But not everyone has first hand experience of that I realise

lurker101 · 21/05/2021 06:59

NHS App- I got my second dose yesterday, so I’ve been checking it frequently to see when it updates - there is a lag with the app (it must be updated overnight). I got vaccinated in the am, and my systmonline GP records were showing the second vaccine as soon as I left while waiting for a coffee, but the NHS app is only showing it now. Something to bear in mind if anyone has a second dose close to when they want to travel and are hoping to use this!

They’ve also done an update to show the “expiry date” is of the 2d barcode (still 20 June). It mustn’t just have been us it was confusing earlier in the week.

JanFebAnyMonth · 21/05/2021 07:06

Some older people might have gone to the snooker, football - it wasn’t just gig/club. But maybe v few over 70s/CEV.

MRex · 21/05/2021 07:10

Interesting that it's 20th June, yes, I forgot to post my theory. We don't officially know if this their software trial or linked to the next stage of restrictions. My current theory is that they are generating all of them in a batch process rather than dynamically, so will refresh all of them periodically leaving nightly updates as only those newly first / second dose vaccinated. I.e. nothing to see here folks, just a clunky IT solution to the question of "how do we not have the system crash when everyone tries to download their certificate at once. (Expect a system crash on a random night in June that will be explained as the system updating.)

Firefliess · 21/05/2021 07:45

I don't think it's that simple to calculate a rate from the 15 reported positive tests associated with the large events. The article a read that mentioned the 15 tests said that they were thought to be a mixture of cases picked up in the tests people took before the events (meaning those people didn't attend) as well as afterwards. So it's 15 positives found by testing people I think 3 times over, not a snapshot figure of 15 infected at the same time. You also can't compare the rate to the rate found via testing in the community because everyone attending the large events was tested whether they had symptoms or not, so they'll have picked up more asymptomatic people than normal. Think we'll have to wait for the full study to be published to really see how they went.

Firefliess · 21/05/2021 07:50

New website just been launched by PHE with data on inequalities if you're interested analytics.phe.gov.uk/apps/chime/

MargaretThursday · 21/05/2021 07:56

@MRex

While all that's true *@JanFebAnyMonth age @MargaretThursday*, with few exceptions people with symptoms have a higher viral load than people without and are therefore thought to be more contagious (ignoring the early presymptomatic period). So more noticeable infections for younger children is a very bad thing for transmission.

I don't know how we get out of this without vaccinating children. And I think child vaccination rates will be very low until a variant makes children very poorly, by which time it's too late.

Yes I agree, we do need to look at vaccinating children.

The other thing that occurred to me on more younger children being found to be positive is that you may find people more inclined to test their younger ones if they think it's positive. So if there's already cases in school, then you may find people deciding to test "just in case" or people testing with non-standard symptoms, which naturally will pick up more.
I don't think that's the only thing, but it might add into the number of positives. What's the current positivity rates for those ages?

One thing that, looking at the heat maps, is that earlier the under 15 age categories never seemed to be badly hit compared with older ones. (obviously for some of that the schools were shut, so that will effect it) Then the Kent one arrived and the 10-14 seemed to be hit first. in our area you can see 10-14 age hitting first and going up and down when the local schools shut/reopened. Then it going out to older age categories.
Is that because they hadn't been so badly effected before so there was more potential for transmission? Or is it that that variant effected younger more?

But now looking at the Bolton, the 5-9yos hit purple status only a day after the secondary school age and before the adults. It's the highest rate /100k it's been there. Is the Indian variant going even younger?

Children need to be vaccinated before there's a problem, not after or during.

ceeveebee · 21/05/2021 08:10

Whilst I agree that the primary rates in Bolton look worrying - how much of this is down to surge testing ie haven’t they done a PCR on the entire population in order to find those cases? Whereas with the Kent variant, there was no surge testing so the reported rates only reflected those with symptoms. The ONS survey for December showed a rate of 2%, or 2000/100,000 for primary aged children.
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/18december2020#age-analysis-of-the-number-of-people-in-england-who-had-covid-19

Firefliess · 21/05/2021 08:52

I'm not so pessimistic about vaccine uptake for children. Most people go along with the routine childhood vaccines that are offered even though they include diseases that they're extremely unlikely to catch (polio) or often mild (German measles). I think the anti vac lot with children are just particularly noisy about it.
And if they start making foreign travel easier for vaccinated people, or removing the requirements for vaccinated contacts to isolate, that'll push more people to get their kids done. But I do think a lot of people - including kids themselves - are keen. They don't want to catch it.

MargaretThursday · 21/05/2021 09:03

@Firefliess
I'm quite optimistic about the children vaccine uptake. For a start off I'll bet they do it in schools, which immediately gives them a captive audience Grin
Having got dc at secondary school who've recently had injections, almost all the children do have the injections, so I'd be hopeful that most would take it up.

Certainly from what my children say (and bearing in mind one is extremely needle phobic) that among the pupils themselves they are very keen to get it asap because they see it as a way out of the situation.

sirfredfredgeorge · 21/05/2021 09:56

they are very keen to get it asap because they see it as a way out of the situation

Coercion is so ingrained.

wintertravel1980 · 21/05/2021 10:23

The thing is... the risk for children is low but it's not zero. It is not only about the risk of death - there are other factors to consider.

I know the long Covid threat is overused and people quickly use their credibility when they quote inflated numbers (e.g. 10%+). However, even if the risk of a severe long-term outcome for a teenager is very low (0.1%?), it is still likely to be significantly higher than the risk of negative consequences from getting a vaccine.

By the time UK approves vaccines for 12-15 year olds, we should have sufficient data from the US to make informed decisions.

wintertravel1980 · 21/05/2021 10:24

... and people quickly lose their credibility when they quote inflated numbers...

MargaretThursday · 21/05/2021 10:36

@sirfredfredgeorge

I think you're wrong there. They are far more into politics, current affairs etc than I, or any of my friends, ever were at that age. They are genuinely discussing things like risk factors and going away and looking for research rather than blindly following what they're told. Some of them have different views to their parents.
It's not just with Covid, it's other things too, they're genuinely interested in what is going on.

They're debating in their own time (I've heard them on skype) with friends things we are discussing here, challenging others to come up with evidence and looking for information that is from reputable sources.
Yes, sometimes they come up with conclusions that I wouldn't, but it isn't from a position of lack of knowledge.

WarriorN · 21/05/2021 13:11

19 cases of the Indian variant in North Tyneside so far, likely to be more, pcr testing this weekend.

www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2021-05-20/every-adult-in-north-tyneside-asked-to-take-a-test-in-bid-to-halt-spread-of-indian-variant-of-coronavirus

Doomsdayisstillcoming · 21/05/2021 16:30

Eugh. Hospital numbers increasing in England.

Depressing.

Cactusali · 21/05/2021 16:46

@Doomsdayisstillcoming

Eugh. Hospital numbers increasing in England.

Depressing.

Number of people in hospital down by 8 according to latest figures on government dashboard
Pivotthesofa · 21/05/2021 16:52

@Doomsdayisstillcoming do you have a link? I thought they were actually down

Doomsdayisstillcoming · 21/05/2021 17:17

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/05/COVID-19-daily-admissions-and-beds-20210521.xlsx

For England.

Go down to second lowest (above ventilation patients). 766.

For Tues-Sat figures you should see falls.

This is concerning.

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