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Are you still sticking to ALL of the rules?

543 replies

CallTheSheriff · 03/05/2021 21:33

Our family has followed all rules to date but with two weeks left until social contact restrictions are lifted I see more and more people using a ‘common sense’ approach for their own risk.

My DC go to school (primary), attend swimming lessons, attend dance classes and indoor football classes but we decline the offer of play dates with other DC in their class.

DH and I have not mixed indoors with any other adult since last March. We both WFH and are both partially vaccinated. We do not attend gyms etc as we didn’t pre covid anyway.

Our friends and family think we are being OTT, especially in not allowing DC to visit others after school but allowing them to attend classes.

It made me wonder how others are doing it?

OP posts:
User6587324 · 06/05/2021 09:28

But the rules state that 2 meter physical distance must be observed outdoors for people not in your household - no hugs!. This is not the law though, just guidance/advice

LST · 06/05/2021 09:37

2 metres isnt law.

RedcurrantPuff · 06/05/2021 09:45

Where is your line @Mumbot345635? Do we always have to follow the laws of a corrupt regime?

On this case you agreed with the laws but what if you didn’t?

Paternalism and telling us things are “for our own good” is how these regimes get to take root without opposition

Lillyrosegrace778 · 06/05/2021 09:47

2 metres isn’t law nor is there a law against giving hugs (only being indoors in the first place).

HIVpos · 06/05/2021 09:57

@Mumbot345635

No what I’m saying is that no one has been prosecuted yet but there are the elements of the offence is you knowingly broke the law and you were unlucky enough that this passed on covid to someone who died. People have been convicted of passing on HIV for example. The restrictions were put in place to save lives.
@Mumbot345635 as you’re making comparisons to HIV and convictions could you give a little more detail please? Surely it’s not just about one person passing HIV on to another?
PomegranateQueen · 06/05/2021 10:16

You can't really compare it to a manslaughter conviction for passing on HIV. People who are HIV positive are not banned from sex, if thier partner knows they have HIV and consents to sex anyway then there is no legal case to answer if the partner contracts HIV. Given that cases are so low at the moment and the most vulnerable have been vaccinated, why shouldn't adults with no symptoms, who have had the vaccine and/or a negative LF test be allowed to have a cup of tea and a chat indoors?

tigger1001 · 06/05/2021 10:27

@Lillyrosegrace778

2 metres isn’t law nor is there a law against giving hugs (only being indoors in the first place).
It may not be law but that doesn't stop some telling you you are killing people.

Here, it's only not legal to be in a house - can be indoors in other settings. Some cynical person might say that's to boost the economy rather than be because of covid

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 06/05/2021 11:20

Wouldn’t these comparisons to passing on HIV only be valid if we’re talking about someone who knowingly has covid? I don’t know many people who, if they know they have Covid, would go on to e.g. have an illegal haircut. If they don’t believe they have covid then surely it’s a different thing entirely?

MooseBreath · 06/05/2021 11:45

No. We are seeing close friends and family indoors.

99victoria · 06/05/2021 12:59

@Mumbot345535

But sometimes the only way to effect changes in the law is for people to break them eg back street illegal abortions led to a change in the abortion law, the suffragette movement committed numerous illegal acts in order to secure the vote for women

LucilleTheVampireBat · 06/05/2021 13:17

@Mumbot345635

The thing is rasberry if your illegal hair cut had resulted in you getting covid and you passed that on to someone vulnerable to covid and they died (and this was all proven) you possibly could have committed manslaughter.
Ahahaha, I have read it all now. This is just gold.

I'm filing it away with "blood on your hands".

LucilleTheVampireBat · 06/05/2021 13:18

@Mumbot345635

I understand it perfectly middle!! I’m a government lawyer which is why I kind of feel I know what I’m talking about (will need to name change now)!
For a "government lawyer" your spelling isn't great Confused

Please quickly go and namechange though. As you say, now we all know you're a "government lawyer" we could definitely identify you and break your cover.

TheKeatingFive · 06/05/2021 13:24

Did we go around accusing people who may have inadvertently passed on flu asymptomatically of ‘causing manslaughter’?

Of course we fucking didn’t. Covid has caused certain people to lose their heads entirely.

GintyMcGinty · 06/05/2021 13:32

@Mumbot345635

The thing is rasberry if your illegal hair cut had resulted in you getting covid and you passed that on to someone vulnerable to covid and they died (and this was all proven) you possibly could have committed manslaughter.

Oh for goodness sake.

No way are you a 'government lawyer'. Or a lawyer of any type except in your own imagination.

pommedeterre · 06/05/2021 13:43

@TheKeatingFive

Did we go around accusing people who may have inadvertently passed on flu asymptomatically of ‘causing manslaughter’?

Of course we fucking didn’t. Covid has caused certain people to lose their heads entirely.

THIS.

Some people have loved being institutionalised basically.

PomegranateQueen · 06/05/2021 13:58

Did we go around accusing people who may have inadvertently passed on flu asymptomatically of ‘causing manslaughter’?

Of course we fucking didn’t. Covid has caused certain people to lose their heads entirely

This!

CEV people have always been around, some people are so vulnerable that the common cold can land them in hospital. What's next, manslaughter charges for sending your DCs into nursery with runny noses.

Topseyt · 06/05/2021 13:58

@Mumbot345635

The thing is rasberry if your illegal hair cut had resulted in you getting covid and you passed that on to someone vulnerable to covid and they died (and this was all proven) you possibly could have committed manslaughter.
I'd be really interested in hearing about any court case which brought a charge of manslaughter against someone whose crime was having a haircut. 🙄
Topseyt · 06/05/2021 14:04

@Mumbot345635

I understand it perfectly middle!! I’m a government lawyer which is why I kind of feel I know what I’m talking about (will need to name change now)!
You are a government lawyer!!??

I am the Pope. Hi there. 😃

Was that a flying pig just then?🤔

Lostinthewilderness · 06/05/2021 14:13

As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan

Bluesheep8 · 06/05/2021 14:23

*As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan*

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/05/2021 14:23

@Lostinthewilderness

As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan

More fool you for sitting out in the rain.
LST · 06/05/2021 14:27

@Lostinthewilderness

As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan

Nah. I'm not sitting in the rain
LucilleTheVampireBat · 06/05/2021 14:28

@Lostinthewilderness

As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan

Bit silly of you....

Still, you got the opportunity to anonymously virtue signal to a bunch of strangers on the internet. You're winning.

PatrickBatemann · 06/05/2021 14:31

@Lostinthewilderness

As someone who spent the weekend visiting family & sitting in their garden in the pouring cold rain with a toddler because my family aren’t breaking the rules this thread pisses me off

When we’re back in another lockdown bet the rule breakers are the first to moan

Do you want a medal?

Also, you sat in the pissing down rain with a toddler?? Nice.

Sillysop92 · 06/05/2021 16:15

Most of these breaches are very minor misdemeanours, like doing 23mph in a 20mph zone. Or parking in a parent and child spaces whilst alone. I’m not consciously aware that I have not followed the law, or guidance but the smugness and preening from some of you about how well you have done at keeping to the law and guidance is nauseating. I particularly hate the “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” brIgade ODFOD.