Good News - Thread 13. 40/30s and onwards to the roaring 20s.

[PomLikeTheBattle]

New thread 😊

Anyone else think MN is getting back to normal and the vast majority seem to have recovered their sense of humor and those that haven't are back to being annoyed about their neighbour's dogs and parking? That's my good news for the day.

Expecting side effects of the vaccines from information gathered across Europe

Of course it isn't very accurate because it misses out that only around 1 in 4 get any side effects at all.

Plus the main ones people get are a sore arm and a headache for a few hours

Dh will be in todays 2nd jab numbers, I'll be in next Wednesdays his was 11 weeks apart (pfizer) mine 9 weeks (AZ)

A study published in the BMJ found that people who have had an AstraZeneca vaccine dose are at slightly more risk of a vein blood clot compared to the general population.

Researchers looked at 280,000 people aged 18-65 who received a first dose of the AZ jab in Denmark and Norway.

AZ just over one case of CVST per 50,000 was found.

By comparison, the odds of dying during a game of football are 1.1 per 50,000 people according to a separate study in 2019 by Oxford University.

UK economy set to grow at fastest rate in more than 70 years

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57008220

Hopefully pandemic recovery will be better than we thought.

Well, i can't wait to help the hospitality and travel industries with their recovery 😁

Too pigging right 🥳

The entertainment industry too.

@TruelyWonder

A study published in the BMJ found that people who have had an AstraZeneca vaccine dose are at slightly more risk of a vein blood clot compared to the general population.

Researchers looked at 280,000 people aged 18-65 who received a first dose of the AZ jab in Denmark and Norway.

AZ just over one case of CVST per 50,000 was found.

By comparison, the odds of dying during a game of football are 1.1 per 50,000 people according to a separate study in 2019 by Oxford University.

Playing it or watching it?

If watching I find there's a very good chance of dying of boredom

Oh bloody hell, been chatting to a friend, just found out another friend is currently in hospital with clots on the brain 7 days after her first dose of az. Age 49. Having a wobble now . Someone give me a slap and tell me I'll be fine after my 2nd dose

@Dementedswan, I just read this on the Huff Post website:

"The risk of developing a blood clot with your second dose of the vaccine is even more rare. Up to 5 April, the MHRA had heard of 100 cases of blood clots with low platelet counts in the UK following vaccination with the AstraZeneca jab.

Of these, 99 reports were associated with the first dose of the vaccine and a single report followed a second dose, although this individual had medical conditions that could have caused the events. For context, this is out of 20.6 million first doses and one million second doses of the vaccine issued in total."

So, twenty times as many first doses have been given, but 99 times as many clots for first doses. Looks like if you got through the first dose OK, you should be fine with the second.

That's put my mind at rest somewhat!

Oh gawd, trying not to panic about brain clots

DH feels bit achey post 1st dose otherwise ok.

Sorry about blood clot worries and wish I had words of wisdom. Hard to get risks in perspective but it is vv low, lower than your risk dying with covid (I think I've worked the percentages out right).

I am so night out ready, purchased new red lipstick.

@PomLikeTheBattle

DH feels bit achey post 1st dose otherwise ok.

Sorry about blood clot worries and wish I had words of wisdom. Hard to get risks in perspective but it is vv low, lower than your risk dying with covid (I think I've worked the percentages out right).

I am so night out ready, purchased new red lipstick.

I'm trying to remember that it seems worse than it is because we're vaccinating so many people in a short space of time. As someone pointed out in another thread, if the clots had occurred over e.g. 5 or 10 years of vaccine use it wouldn't seem so bad. And I've never worried about small risks happening to me before so why now?

Very true! I shall apply your logic to myself, pour a stiff drink and carry on.

That is exactly it chicken. We are vaccinating the entire population at once. Obviously normally childhood vaccinations (which also have some risk) are done a small percentage of the population each year. So any occurrence is put down as a minor risk. Which it is accurately.

No other vaccination program has ever been so watch and analysed in such detail as this one. Of course that is a good thing in a lot of ways. However it also takes everything completely out of prospective.

Germany is actually now considering using AZ in all age groups again. To help stop any vaccine hesitancy about it (Of there own making) they will let anyone that wants AZ have is straight away. Those that don't can wait for an alternative. If the vaccine was considered unsafe they wouldn't even think about doing this.

@Dementedswan

Very true! I shall apply your logic to myself, pour a stiff drink and carry on.

I probably wouldn't. Apparently there has been a 20% increase in alcohol related deaths during the pandemic. More than 7000 people have died in a year.

Puts the clotting issue into some sort of protective I guess

🤣🤣🤣 umm yeah! I'll chance it.

Hic 🍷

Cheers I know I'll worry for a few weeks after the jab, dh is on strict instructions to be ready to whizz me to hospital if I get any symptoms. Since they are not mixing vaccines i will have to take my chance with the second jab in 6 days.

I think it is perfectly normal for people to worry. Natural human instincts and all that.

Just like to give some prospective to those worries

A lot of people sound like they are waiting to hear from Professor Snape

Bet they never thought their second jab would be at the hands of the Hogwarts potion master

😜

As someone who had a prolonged weird headache following my first vaccination, I have to say they were VERY quick to send me to A&E for a blood test, even though I didn't necessarily have any of the classic symptoms, and A&E took it seriously - did a blood test + a stroke assessment.

They tested my platelets and also a full normal blood test. (Normal platelets, somewhat anaemic.)

I'm on meds for anxiety and depression anyway, tend to stay away from the doom and gloom boards so thought I'd ask for a kick up the arse here. Especially after it's happened to someone we know and their prognosis is bad.

The news about the clots just came out the day after my first vaccination.