How long before the UK become India

[Dandylioness1]

The scenes coming from India right now are petrifying.

Takes me back to the scenes from Italy last year.

My question, how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here.
Do we need to be prepared for this?

Here you are OP

“Not ever”

[quote Dandylioness1]@Bluntness100

Why is it that on this board, if anyone dares to express their worries / concerns, and if they seems to go against the grain of others, then they are automatically assumed to have “anxiety” or “mental health” issues.

Other common accusations -
Goady
A troll
Doomonger
scaremongering

It’s pretty laughable how all the responses (not just on my post) are so generic and completely predictable.
it’s not a discussion, or a debate, it just turns in to a sickening form of bullying / belittling.

Shame on you all.[/quote]
even if there was a small faint chance we might wind up like in the dire predicament that india are now in , which is extremely unlikely there is fuck all any of us can do about it anyhow so its pointless to worry or panic about it . and even less any of us could do to prepare for it , that would be down to the goverment to do

FFS, I venture into the 'rona section for the first time in a while and see it's as doom mongering as usual.
As someone else already pointed out, it does feel like sometimes people WANT to spread panic and misery!
We have vaccines, everything's starting to slowly look up.
We're not in the same position.

which is extremely unlikely there is fuck all any of us can do about it anyhow so its pointless to worry or panic about it

Exactly!

.....'how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here.
Do we need to be prepared for this?'....

The way you've phrased your question suggests you've already made up your mind that the UK will be seeing similar scenes.
Do you want people to agree with your assertions?

Just as an aside, it's pretty hard, coming from the U.K, population of, what, 66 million, to get your head around 1.4 billion as the population of India.

Shame on you @Dandylioness1 for starting a thread that will add to some people’s anxiety over Covid. Please respond as to why you phrased your original post in the way you did, rather than attacking people for challenging it.

@Myalternate

.....'how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here. Do we need to be prepared for this?'....

The way you've phrased your question suggests you've already made up your mind that the UK will be seeing similar scenes.
Do you want people to agree with your assertions?

The OP deliberately worded their Title as click- bait and to wind people up, and many people including me saw through it from the start. It's obvious they have nothing else better to do with their time. Poor them.

Plenty of better threads on here with reasonable factual discussion.

I am suggesting that the surge in cases, the new Indian variant is inevitably going to affect us.

I had read the other day that although there is the Indian variant that it is the Kent variant causing the big problems in India.

Your post was suggesting the situation in India occurring here was a fait accompli. If is not rude to call you out on this. If you’d framed your query to ask if we’d get the India situation here you wouldn’t have got peoples backs up so much.

@Myalternate

.....'how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here. Do we need to be prepared for this?'....

The way you've phrased your question suggests you've already made up your mind that the UK will be seeing similar scenes.
Do you want people to agree with your assertions?

@Myalternate

Seriously after the shit we have all been through these past 12 months, is it such a ludicrous thing to consider that we too could be suffering at the hands of a new variant?
I’m asking how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes.
We all remember the scenes from China & Italy last year and I know so many people in RL who were convinced that we wouldn’t be affected in the UK! 🙄

I’m not suggesting we lockdown and stay in doors, cower away...
I simply just asked an opinion.

An answer like
“OP I don’t think we will see scenes like this here because......”
would be just fine.

Being called a cucumber, a twat, a doom monger, accused of mental health issues or severe anxiety.... that’s not really something I expect from grown adults following a genuine question.

I’m certainly not a doom monger, infact I remember one of my last posts on this board last year was expressing how positive everything was, only to be shot down by many!

@daisychain01

The OP deliberately worded their Title as click- bait and to wind people up, and many people including me saw through it from the start. It's obvious they have nothing else better to do with their time. Poor them.

Oh for goodness sake.

I’m reporting this to MN. This is just nothing other than intimidation!!

My question, how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here. Do we need to be prepared for this?

Prepared how?? What do you propose we do that we aren't now already doing?

@trappedsincesundaymorn

My question, how long do you think we have until we are seeing similar scenes here. Do we need to be prepared for this?

Prepared how?? What do you propose we do that we aren't now already doing?

@trappedsincesundaymorn

I should’ve perhaps stated, more prepared mentally than anything we can physically do.

How nice is the freedom at the moment?
My family and I are certainly enjoying it..!!
It feels so normal.

At work we’re all so cheerful and positive. There’s a real sense of normality in my life right now.

It’s not completely ridiculous to have thought about the fact that this could change given the state of other counties right now!!

We all remember the scenes from China & Italy last year

Yes, and as I've already mentioned twice, a number of the images touted by the media have turned out to be downright lies - and that's without the extremely selective reporting and cherry picking of the worst "facts" without context

That doesn't mean that it's all a lie of course, or that Covid isn't a genuine problem, but as a matter of interest do you actually look into these things, or just swallow the media's narrative without thought?

That doesn't mean that it's all a lie of course, or that Covid isn't a genuine problem

Why are you talking about fake news and irresponsible media on a thread about India if you are not trying to suggest that the scenes we are seeing aren't true?

OP, behave

Our country is incredibly different to India.

Yes there are well off people in India. But many live in abject poverty, where healthcare is visiting the local quack for a potion, and where many people have not been given access to the vaccine as there isn't the record keeping and drive their is here.

They are now a red list country putting people off traveling there, due to costs of flights and then hotel quarantine.

I don't believe it will go back to anywhere near that even if we do see a small rise in summer. It's not cases here now that is the issue and never really was. It's about the NHS having capacity to treat the odd bad case, and deaths. And both of those are being sorted by the vaccine being so well received by the majority.

You will of course have those who refuse it-as is their right although it's mine to believe they're daft and need to get off click bait websites. You will get those who it may not work on but that's the case with all medications and vaccines.

But I really can't foresee a time we would be bad again and certainly not on India levels.

I've already clarified that twice, noblegiraffe - see my previous posts

Yes puzzled and all I can see is you trying to introduce doubt to the thread.

all I can see is you trying to introduce doubt to the thread

This is a predictable trope, but if you read what I've actually written as opposed to what you'd like it to mean, you'll see that I don't believe it's an either/or situation

IMO it's perfectly possible to appreciate that there are problems and to recognise deceitful reports and images for what they are
It's always clear on these threads that some prefer this aspect to go unmentioned, and we could of course swallow everything the media feeds us wholesale, but that doesn't seem to me a very wise thing to do

@Dandylioness1 but how about scenes from the start of the year here. The harrowing stories that would come out on the news from our own NHS hospitals about the kent variant.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/from-the-garden-of-england-to-the-slums-of-calcutta-our-kent-covid-variant-is-now-theirs-nszptr3sz

BEcause there is a very strong likelihood that it is the kent variant propelling everything along - the one we have already had.

As I have said before if you compare them the Kent Variant we have had in terms of transmission/virulence/increase chances of death is by far the worst of them all. Its only saving grace is that it is kept at bay

This is a predictable trope

And introducing doubt masquerading as genuine concern while pretending that you don’t mean to is a predictable tactic.

If you think what is happening in India is real and awful, then why do that?

I read yesterday that scientists are urging the government to ensure all restrictions are over with after June? Our vaccination programme is working really well, covid is no longer the highest killer in the UK, I’ve even noticed on the news now barely anything to do with covid in this country, other stories take priority now.

I don’t think you can compare India and I’m not sure about ‘how long until we end up that way’ not even an ‘if’ in the OP. Do people want responses of ‘we’ll end up like that soon unless we immediately lockdown at the levels of April last year’

At work we’re all so cheerful and positive. There’s a real sense of normality in my life right now

So enjoy that then, why worry about something that may or may not happen? Even at our worst we weren't anywhere near how India is now, we were bad, of course we were, but we've come a long way since then.