I dont think life will be normal for years and years

[ssd]

Its the pictures coming out of india, with the recent festival and hundreds of people crammed together, during a second covid wave. This virus will just mutate forever, its too global to contain. Its just never going away. What the hells going to happen to us or our kids futures?
I can't see a way out of this. Science can't catch up, its too far spread to ever get a handle on it.

Images be your bil giving a presser to the nation everyday a d you've got Scotland.

OP needs to stop reading The Daily Mail and its scaremongering about scariants.

It's the Sturgeon effect.

To be fair the news last year was all 'how to clean your phone' see

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-51863924

@WrapUpWarm2021 yep it’s totally the sturgeon effect although Jason Leitch is even worse. You can’t even listen to football on the radio without him popping up to try and scare everyone. The radio goes straight off if I hear his voice now.

This time last year everyone was washing their groceries. Is that still a thing?

@tiredmum2468

I really feel for those with family abroad- it's been awful for people but on the other side of the coin, I agree with other posters saying Australia and New Zealand have it under control. Nobody going in/out and that's how it all started here because they didn't close the boarders earlier enough, then the ridiculous eat out to spread covid scheme and now we are where we are.

We need some sort of normality somehow. Another point is furlough is stopping but also a couple of weeks back my daughter 5 had to isolate as someone in her bubble tested positive. I can work from home but lots of parents can't and they lost about 7-8 days pay (covering the isolation period) and left a lot of families with one parent having to take unpaid leave and this in turn makes it a massive financial pressure for people.

I think the isolation due to positive test in bubble will stop once children start being vaccinated. At our school, if someone now tests positive (and it's been 1 since March), those around take a lateral flow test every day for the ten day period. They also say a lateral flow positive must be followed by a full test, as they can give false positives but school says don't come in until you've had a negative full test. I think that's sensible.

We can't sustain how we have been.

Where I am, a quite big town, we've had no cases for weeks in my bit. And we are well below average in the combined town too. The uptake of the vaccine has been huge. It shows if everyone works together, we can get back to normal lives.
We won't get Covid zero, it's not possible. But we can get to covid manageable.

OP, have you spoken to your GP, it's not a bad thing to admit you are struggling.

Good grief, what a gloomy OP. My view is that life will return to normal and pretty quickly. Where I am in the SE, I feel there’s been a quite obvious mood change. I’m hearing more and more people saying things like, when can we ditch the masks?

Humans can only live in a state of peril for so long before they have to adapt. It’s survival isn’t it? Lots of offices are back and more anticipated.

What I’m looking forward to most though is not having to be exposed to other peoples neuroses, irrational fears and anxieties. Anyone who wants to stay locked up forever can do so but don’t try and make/manipulate the rest of us to do it so you can feel better.

@IrmaFayLear

I started a thread a week or so ago about bil and sil, who are in a bunker and convinced that covid is here for the very long term. That’s their view, but every time bil speaks to dh he puts the wind up dh who feels down and upset who then scares me. Bil was telling dh the other day that all doctors know that the fourth wave is imminent and that the govt is keeping it secret and controlling the press/BBC

That there will be another rise in cases after opening up is inevitable and it is not a secret.

@CornishGem1975

This time last year everyone was washing their groceries. Is that still a thing?

I have never ever ever done this. Ever

@ssd

Its the pictures coming out of india, with the recent festival and hundreds of people crammed together, during a second covid wave. This virus will just mutate forever, its too global to contain. Its just never going away. What the hells going to happen to us or our kids futures? I can't see a way out of this. Science can't catch up, its too far spread to ever get a handle on it.

Well aren’t you just a ray of sunshine.

I’m claiming my life back! I’m seeing my kids and grandchildren and I’ve been to a pub.

I’m not living in a box anymore. I refuse.

I’ve never washed groceries or quarantined post or any of that stuff. All I did was wash my hands upon returning home from somewhere or after putting away a shopping delivery. Never used hand sanitiser as I hate the stuff. Also not had covid (or if I did I was asymptomatic). I also travelled abroad twice last summer when it was allowed, so not as if I shut myself away. I can understand extra precautions if you’re vulnerable in some way, but otherwise I think it’s more detrimental to your MH to go over the top with these things. I remember reading on here some people going for a full shower and change of clothes just for setting foot outside the door! It’s stands to reason that if you have loads of “precautions” in place then normality is going to feel much further away.

Goodness I pity your kids if that’s the attitude that you are walking around with. Just get in with your life now.... if you actually venture outside you will see that actually things aren’t that bad with regards to being able to do stuff. Yes we still have to wear masks, supposed to SD etc but so what it’s hardly asking the earth is it. If your not seeing your family then speak to them and decide what is best to do amongst yourselves. I see mine as we are low risk, no elderly family members etc. Time to start living op and less of the misery.

I'm starting to get my life back and I reuse to be pessimistic. I've definitely learned not to worry about what I can't control so I'm cracking on

Yesterday the sun was shining we drove to the coast had a pub lunch looking out to sea then came home and did a 4 mile walk in the woods with a small group of friends. Life is enjoyable again and I'm embracing it

If you live in fear, it will consume you so live each day as it comes.

It's going to be OK. Yes, things are going to be weird for a while, but it's certainly not going to be forever, nothing ever is.

@Meruem

I’ve never washed groceries or quarantined post or any of that stuff. All I did was wash my hands upon returning home from somewhere or after putting away a shopping delivery. Never used hand sanitiser as I hate the stuff. Also not had covid (or if I did I was asymptomatic). I also travelled abroad twice last summer when it was allowed, so not as if I shut myself away. I can understand extra precautions if you’re vulnerable in some way, but otherwise I think it’s more detrimental to your MH to go over the top with these things. I remember reading on here some people going for a full shower and change of clothes just for setting foot outside the door! It’s stands to reason that if you have loads of “precautions” in place then normality is going to feel much further away.

Ditto. never wiped shopping down just kept a normal level of cleaning and hygiene. Last summer and between lockdowns I was out every weekend to pubs, bars and few small outdoors dance events and I had mates over in my garden sitting in the sun. I had a lovely summer and I didn't catch covid - or like you if I did I had no symptoms.

I will do exactly the same this summer - live life as freely as we can and not worry about what might be

@HesterShaw1

FFS. Stop watching the news, get off MN, get outside and just bloody do stuff.

Well said

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair I asked the same question and the poster claimed that 2 cousins were doctors and apparently think it’s all fine and dandy. Very bizarre behaviour but this pandemic has truly brought out the irrational and illogical in many people

I actually disagree. People won't carry on obeying rules. Life will move on. I think we are done. I think the Government know that. This is their last bit of power they are clinging onto now. Some people will carry on mask wearing and living in fear. For the rest we are done. I am pretty positive (despite the crap Government).

Just live in the now. Life is alright. Not normal but not bad. The weather has warmed up enough to easily sit outside & have lunch/drinks. Every pub & restaurant round me was heaving this weekend. Popped to a local garden centre for lunch on Monday & that was heaving with the retired. Had to wait 30 mins for a table! I’m back seeing friends as often as I want, we’ve had some fab day trips over a long weekend we’ve just taken. My kids are at nursery & back doing swimming & gym class as normal. My parents are helping us with childcare again. I’ve had a lovely shopping trip to a shopping centre & I cannot wait for my haircut on Saturday! Honestly, live feels genuinely really nice after a such a bleak winter. I look forward to May when we can go stay with family again.

There’s no point worrying about what might happen or what’s happening in India when you live in the U.K.. It’s a virus, god knows. But there’s no point spending right now panicking & worrying. Live in the now, get out & enjoy what you can sensibly obviously.

No pandemic has lasted forever & no pandemic has ever happened during a time of such scientific advancement!

[quote Orangesandlemons77]To be fair the news last year was all 'how to clean your phone' see

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-51863924[/quote]
No one's still taking covid advice from articles written pre 23 March 2020 are they

I despair!

Yes, it will. No one is going to comply forever, and not only that, the economy will collapse with constant lockdowns. It will become another flu that we have jabs for and learn to live with.

@ssd and others worrying about the India mutation, news out of India today is that the locally produced vaccine is effective against the double mutant strain. indianexpress.com/article/india/covaxin-neutralises-double-mutant-strain-icmr-study-7282835/ I will need to read more about this, but it seems good news.

We need more studies to see if AZ is equally effective, but I am hopeful. The fact is in a global economy, it is hard to keep mutants out indefinitely, but we hope science will keep pace. Very important to keep hope alive now, I think, even if it is hard.

I am going to try and enjoy this summer- already been out to cafes, restaurants, hairdressers and the shops- and not borrow trouble.

Eventually the virus will run out of people to kill. Harsh but true.

But we will still be left with thousands of people dying every day due to starvation.

A lot of people on this thread need to turn off the sodding news and go for a walk.