I dont think life will be normal for years and years

[ssd]

Its the pictures coming out of india, with the recent festival and hundreds of people crammed together, during a second covid wave. This virus will just mutate forever, its too global to contain. Its just never going away. What the hells going to happen to us or our kids futures?
I can't see a way out of this. Science can't catch up, its too far spread to ever get a handle on it.

The Dailymail and Telegraph are reporting today that only 32 vaccinated once people have been hospitalised.

I think the important distinction between vaccine efficacy at preventing infection and preventing serious hospitalisation also needs to be remembered

@Quartz2208

The Dailymail and Telegraph are reporting today that only 32 vaccinated once people have been hospitalised.

I think the important distinction between vaccine efficacy at preventing infection and preventing serious hospitalisation also needs to be remembered

This @ssd

We have come a long way. Things will improve although Covid is likely to be around we have to live with it.

Focus on positives and not on the negatives and doom. There are other things that will impact our children's futures not just this virus.

@Quartz2208

The Dailymail and Telegraph are reporting today that only 32 vaccinated once people have been hospitalised.

I think the important distinction between vaccine efficacy at preventing infection and preventing serious hospitalisation also needs to be remembered

This is great, it’s out of 70k plus too

I think now more than ever is a time to really just live each day as it comes. No one can predict how things will be in 6 or 12 months etc. Yes we can make guesses and assumptions but it really is just wait and see.

Humans don’t like uncertainty but the overly pessimistic bring themselves down, the overly optimistic end up being disappointed. I try and just live in the moment and as things open up, if I want to go and do something I do it. Yes masks are a pain but you can take them off when outside or eating/drinking. DD and I went to a retail park last Friday and picked up some bits and pieces, went for coffee, it was a nice spring day with tables outside so it was really pleasant. It may not have been the most exciting activity but it does give you a sense that things will get better. To a degree it is about focusing on the positives.

@julietmanchester

I was literally getting ready to write this exact thread.

As for me, personally, I don't feel particularly in the mood to just pop on out for daily things anymore. Those rights were taken away from me (rightfully so) due to the pandemic.

One more thing- cases are rising in India and Brazil and mildly in America, so I don't see how to go back to planning holidays or festivities anymore.

DC's bday is coming up, and we are planning something very special due to his sad birthday last year. It is the one thing I'm trying my hardest to do as 'normal' as possible (with a mask and obscenely sanitising my hands/phone/tables!!!!! Argh!!!!)

I know this thread isn't about sanitizing but your last sentence illustrates why some people are losing hope

Why in world are you sanitizing your phone . Where have you got the idea that you could catch covid from your phone or a table? Why are you doing this as it's unnecessary and is obviously affectig your mental health?

"Seriously? I dont believe you for a second."

Honestly, I did. I've commented on your other threads asking why you have been repeatedly starting threads exactly like this one for a year now. Just stop it.

I think we’re all at different stages of processing this pandemic and it’s impacts.

There does come a point though where you actively choose to pursue a particular frame of mind despite lots of evidence and encouragement to look at things outside your narrow frame of reference for perspective and own health.

That works both ways imho.

@CoffeandPancakes

OP, why have you started this thread? To warn us? So someone can come along and reassure you? Just to spread doom?

I really think people need to think before posting these threads. It's now on the 'most active', so people will see this without intentionally looking for it and so many people are on the edge and terrified.

These "It will NEVER end" type threads don't bloody help!

OP is clearly exceptionally anxious as her doom and gloom view does not reflect how most people feel about the current situation.

The risk of catching it are presently remote; the risks of dying infinitesimal. Just focus on the statistics.

We already live with flu. Our grandparents lived with tb, polio, diphtheria, scarlet fever and before that their antecedents lived with small pox and the plague. Antibiotics are a 20th century introduction that revolutionised health care and longevity as did early Cancer diagnoses, radiotherapy and chemo.

Just live op. Personally I can't wait to have things to look forward to again. The DC have just gone back to uni and the shops were fab at the weekend. Holiday in the UK in a fortnight.

Not once have I sanitised my home. Have popped out for milk and bread when necessary. Had walks, etc. Haven't broken the rules. I know very few people who have had Covid. Out of a workforce of 1000 I know of two cases of long covid. I know of three people who died with covid: one had recovered but had terminal cancer; one was 93 and in a care home and had suffered 3 strokes in the last 2 years and against the odds bounced back, he got covid and recovered then had a stroke in the 28 day period, finally a lady on end of life care who caught if from her carers. She, sadly was the 1 of the 3 who genuinely died from Covid.

I think we all need to get on with life whilst being cautious.

Yes, I think things will get back to normal.

@katfold

The pandemic will end, but I think peoppe are beginning to cotton on now to the fact that the pre covid world is gone.. we live in a covid world now, and social distancing, masks etc are here to stay.

At the moment this is hard to accept but I think over time we will all come to embrace this new, healthier way of life! Staying apart, sticking to your household, staying at home.. will all become second nature. And that is great! Instead of holidays and restaurants we will enjoy jigsaws and cooking at home. Instead of socialising, we will focus on our own household! Single people will learn to be happier on their own, and take a long time to get to know someone to have children with...which is great! Instead of chatting to each other, we will keep our distance and all mind our own business.

In time we will learn to love the new healthier happier quieter way of life!

This has to be sarcasm. Nobody could possibly mean it.

[quote OverTheRainbow88]@Tiktokersmiracle

Not everyone going abroad is wanting a holiday. My family live abroad and I’ve not seen them for 15 months. It’s really hard, but with a 2&4 year old we don’t want to go and then have to pay thousands to stay in a hotel room for 2 weeks so we’ve chosen not to go.[/quote]
Granted, you'd like to see family

But sadly, if we want our life here in the UK back to normal, that can't happen. It's been shown by NZ and Aus that strict rules work.

Sucks obviously for those with family abroad but it's a delicate balance at this point. We either make sacrifices or go backwards again.

I have my wedding hopefully end of June and a number of members of DPs family can't come as they are abroad. We are disappointed but know it's that or back in lockdown again.

I think we need to have hope and take things one day at a time. If we look at this globally, yes, it will depress you. Im old enough to remember the AIDS/HIV Pandemic(to me, it was a Pandemic). No one ever thought with that illness that we would be able to get a handle on it, but, the scientists did. Sadly too late for many but now, people with the illness can live as long as anyone. That wasn't always the case. I did read the Covid vaccine can be tweaked for the variants. We have science which does progress. Even if like for AIDS there is not a cure as such, it will get to a stage where hopefully it's manageable. I think we need to take our freedoms when it's advised. We need to look after each other and follow the science.Please everyone do keep going. This has been such a difficult time and has lasted much longer than we thought,think about how far we have come since last year.

It's the Nicola Sturgeon effect op.

Take yourself out of the depressing and fearful news loop.

She and her advisers have pushed the zero covid nonsense for too long and your post is the result imho.

We have vaccines which will give a wodge of community immunity on top of those who already have survived it and will be somewhat resistant.

This virus will quite possibly end up circulating with as much effect as the current Coronaviruses: a cold but with some people taking horrible pneumonia from it.

People who currently get flu vaccine might even get a combined jab with latest covid variant according to Moderna scientists.

We will get over it. We are getting over it.

(Just don't set your heart on an impromptu night at the pub. And vote accordingly.)

Life in NZ is very near normal. We have to wear masks on public transport. We are encouraged to record on an app where we have been. My hairdresser hugged me today. At the slightest sign we are encouraged to test. We have just suspended people coming in from India. We had the world's toughest lockdown for six weeks.

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair Why in world are you sanitizing your phone shock. Where have you got the idea that you could catch covid from your phone or a table? Why are you doing this as it's unnecessary and is obviously affectig your mental health?

In my hairdressers you are not allowed to use mobile phones anymore due to Covid. I asked why and they said it was guidance from a hairdressing body.

I really feel for those with family abroad- it's been awful for people but on the other side of the coin, I agree with other posters saying Australia and New Zealand have it under control. Nobody going in/out and that's how it all started here because they didn't close the boarders earlier enough, then the ridiculous eat out to spread covid scheme and now we are where we are.

We need some sort of normality somehow. Another point is furlough is stopping but also a couple of weeks back my daughter 5 had to isolate as someone in her bubble tested positive. I can work from home but lots of parents can't and they lost about 7-8 days pay (covering the isolation period) and left a lot of families with one parent having to take unpaid leave and this in turn makes it a massive financial pressure for people.

I suspect the lack of mobile phones in a hairdressor is too prevent too much talking and particles spreading that way

I started a thread a week or so ago about bil and sil, who are in a bunker and convinced that covid is here for the very long term. That’s their view, but every time bil speaks to dh he puts the wind up dh who feels down and upset who then scares me. Bil was telling dh the other day that all doctors know that the fourth wave is imminent and that the govt is keeping it secret and controlling the press/BBC

There was a time when scientists thought that fomite transmission was possibly very important.

It's seems less so now but phones do need cleaning anyway. There are other things than covid. I hope public hygiene stays higher in the aftermath! Cleaning the trolley handles in Costco always seemed wise.

Ah the talking on the mobile makes more sense at this point.

[quote VaVaGloom]**@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair* Why in world are you sanitizing your phone shock. Where have you got the idea that you could catch covid from your phone or a table? Why are you doing this as it's unnecessary and is obviously affectig your mental health?*

In my hairdressers you are not allowed to use mobile phones anymore due to Covid. I asked why and they said it was guidance from a hairdressing body.[/quote]
My mum works in a hospital and uses her phone at work so that sounds a bit silly.