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Needle phobia, vaccination and unsympathetic family

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Notimmaturejustscared · 13/04/2021 17:56

Please help me. I am extremely needle-phobic and, as you might expect, am finding the current vaccination programme very challenging. I am determined to have the vaccine. My phobia has, in the past, stopped me from doing all sorts of things – travelling and even seeking medical treatment at times. I spent most of 2020 in a state of constant anxiety knowing that having an injection would be my only way out of the pandemic and trying to find legitimate ways of avoiding the needle. I’ve eventually come to the conclusion though that regaining freedom is the line I thought I’d never find – for the first time in my life, I want to be vaccinated, even if the actual process still scares me to death.

I wish I wasn’t like this. I wish I could turn off that bit of my brain which goes into fight or flight mode and unfortunately with me it is always one of those. I have run hysterically from a GP Office, blindly shoving people out of the way and not even aware of what I was doing until I was “safely” outside. If not taking flight, I struggle and scream. I sometimes vomit. I wish I could be a demure fainter. I know it’s irrational but I also know I can’t control it. I had CBT a few years ago which was focused on dental treatment but included injections in general. I can now, with a lot of support and a practice specialising in phobia, cope with dental treatment but the CBT didn’t touch my more general needle phobia. The programme was supposed to culminate with me giving blood but I got into such a state upon entering the building, hyperventilating and struggling to get away that I was told “we don’t need your blood that much, the risk to your own health is too great”. I’m been revisiting all my CBT learning though for the last few months, trying to change my thinking so that I can cope with this vaccination. I’m going with faking it until I make it and have just about convinced myself that I am really looking forward to the vaccination, talking about how much I want it, forcing myself to desensitise by looking at images and watching tv coverage that I would normally switch over. I have rehearsed a short spiel to give as soon as I enter the centre, explaining that I’m very nervous and likely to cry and panic. I was almost there until…

My sister has started volunteering at the local vaccination centre. My sister is one of those no-nonsense types and has been telling me with disapproval and mocking attitude about grown men and women who come in all nervous about this tiny needle. She doesn’t know the extent of my phobia. She remembers how I was in childhood and how badly I reacted to injections at school but assumes I’ve grown up and gotten over all of that nonsense. She’s loved all things medical for as long as I can remember and has some real gallows-type humour about medical procedures as well as a bit of a gladiatorial attitude about how much she can undergo without making a fuss. Her DD was very ill in childhood (thankfully ok now) and this has given her an attitude of “I can’t believe a grown adult would make such a fuss when my DD had to go through much worse procedures with barely a whimper”. Having come so close to feeling I can go through with this, I’m now beside myself with fear about my sister seeing me in this kind of state. It’s not just DSis though, my parents also used to compare my fear to her stoicism and made clear they hated my weakness. I’ve not had any reason to discuss injections with my parents in over 25 years but they did recently ask if I was going to get the vaccine or if I was still “stupid about these things”. I acted really breezy, saying that childhood was a long time ago and of course I would get it. Of course if my sister sees me freaking out, she’ll tell our parents and my family will mock me/be disappointed forever more.

We’re in Scotland so my understanding is that the vaccination appointment is basically a summons, rather than elsewhere in the UK where it is an invitation to book a slot. If that were the case I could book on the days I know she doesn’t volunteer (she does 5 days) but as it is, I won’t have a choice. Recently she was laughing about how a friend of hers came in so she told the vaccinator to “stab this one hard” and how she’ll say similar if she is working when I come in. This is hilarious to her but it has put me in a state of blind panic. I actually threw up after that phone call. Aside from DSis seeing me in my phobic state and possibly adding to it, I’m also concerned about any medical confidentiality. I know that she sometimes does the checking-in side of things and sometimes does queue control and I’m worried about what the checking-in involves. If she is checking me in will she see my medical records at any point? There’s stuff I really don’t want her to know in there. I’m also on some mediation at the moment which I don’t want her to know about – would I have to divulge this?

Please can someone talk me down and help me find some coping tips.

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Notimmaturejustscared · 19/12/2021 11:39

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Funnily enough, I'd done the same re comfortable shoes to walk in and knowing exactly how I'd get home on my own if I'd run away from DH and the centre. I did, at one point, walk out of the queue once it started moving and got halfway down the street before returning. DH was left standing there not knowing what to do - he wanted to come after me and comfort me but didn't want to risk losing our place in the queue in case I did come back - which I did. At that point the urge to get it over and done with was stronger than the urge to run away - but only slightly.

My workplace also offers a 4 session counselling arrangement. I tried this last year but was told I didn't qualify because I'd already had therapy for the phobia.

I have seen reports about vaccination clinics in Canada, where they seem to have recognised that phobias are causing some people to avoid getting the vaccinations. Most of their major cities seem to have sessions booked in their vax clinics once a fortnight or so, where there is no medical equipment (including needles) on show or in anyone's eyeline, chaperones are allowed, booths are more spaced out and noise is kept to a minimum - this to tackle phobias but also for people with sensory disorders and other forms of anxiety. It's such a simple thing to do - why can't we have similar here? I'd definitely feel more confident in that situation.

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Fendidntdrake · 20/12/2021 21:32

It's so very sad to read how you were made to feel. Hopefully the impact will fade over time, it's still very raw atm.
I have had medical professionals make me feel worthless in the past. It's important to know it's them and not you.
Xxx

TedGlenn · 20/12/2021 22:19

I've just read your entire thread (active conversations!) and I am so angry at how you were treated for your booster! I am horrified a HCP would be so dismissive with someone who was so clearly distressed.

I actually think the vaccinator acted sadistically. She must have been working in the main clinic and told that there was a needle-phobic woman in the private room freaking out. At that point, she had a choice of picking up a carboard dish, the needle, cotton wool etc and walking down from the main clinic to your private room, or instead walking down from the main clinic with nothing in her hands, solely in order to berate you and make you suffer further by forcing you to follow her back to the main clinic, knowing that would make you more distressed.

Please, you MUST complain. That vaccinator should not be working with an attitude like that. I am so, so, sorry for your experience.

Notimmaturejustscared · 22/12/2021 09:48

Thank you for your kind words, TedGlenn You've articulated what I've been trying not to say about that vaccinator. There was a time where my fear was so great that I genuinely believed all HCPs were sadistic by nature - even if they had a drive to help people there must have been some kind of perverse pleasure in causing pain as part of the process. I do absolutely realise now that this was a crazy thing to think and was completely borne out of my upbringing and various traumatic experiences. But situations like this do sort of "reawaken" that part of my brain and I need to work hard to keep challenging those thoughts and keep myself moving ahead.

I've been going over and over Friday's events. DH keeps telling me to stop, that I'm not doing myself any good but I feel the need to fully debrief on what happened. DH did mention the other day that there was a moment I'd missed, due to my panic. When the vaccinator came down to the private room and told me I had to come upstairs and I started freaking out, she muttered to DH that she hadn't realised it was a needle-phobia - she was just told that I couldn't deal with the queue and crowds. This sheds some light but actually kind of makes it worse. Firstly, if there had been miscommunication on that - it still seems wrong that she would have made me leave the quiet space to then go up the stairs (the queue snaked right down the stairwell so we were squeezing past people) and into a room with more people. Secondly, once she realised the true situation, she could still have been more sensitive to my anxiety and removed the needles from view. In either case, she still could have used the private room.

I keep reading posts on MN and other sites about how vaccinators are delighted to see people attend with phobias and will be very accommodating and that my experience just won;t ever happen. The fact that it did happen though makes me more anxious that it will happen again. And now that it looks almost definite that a 4th jab is on the way, I feel utterly sick with terror.

On a more positive note though, In keeping this thread as a sort of diary, I have realised a few things. Firstly, that the CBT I had was much more effective than I credited. I'm realising now just how much I have changed and moved on from the place I was in - even though my phobia is still extreme. Secondly, just a few months ago, I couldn't find the words to explain to DH about this and would have rather attended m vaccination appointments alone than have him see my in that state - I was so ashamed of the phobia. Now, I'm open with him and I realise that I do need his help. He still doesn't fully get it and isn't as helpful as I would like in some circumstances but just being able to talk and lay out my vulnerabilities at home is a massive step.

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firsttimemumhere · 22/12/2021 10:58

Just to say I'm so proud of you OP, you've done amazingly well!! Please complain as she could have handled the situation much better! Don't think about the next one until it becomes a reality as it may not yet. Also they are trialling in Southampton a non injection vaccine so fingers crossed this gets somewhere! You did so well now please enjoy your Christmas!

Olinguito · 30/12/2021 11:06

@Notimmaturejustscared I'm so sorry to read that you had such a ghastly experience at your last vaccination. I just wanted to thank you for this thread though - yesterday I was accompanying a phobic relative to her booster, and it was only because of reading your thread that I thought of asking if they had a private room for people who couldn't cope with the crowds and public nature of the usual process. We were ushered into a separate room for the whole procedure and looked after by a lovely and very kind nurse. I don't think my relative would have been able to get the booster without this help.

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