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Selfish people on bus

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70smusic · 12/04/2021 18:54

I don’t own a car and today needed to take the bus for an essential journey. I was really shocked to see that of the 8 or so people on the bus, 5 weren’t wearing masks properly. 3 people had them covering the mouth only with their noses exposed, 1 person pulled theirs down to chat on the phone and another had theirs around their neck. I’m assuming all these people are able to wear masks and weren’t exempt as they did have them on - they just weren’t wearing them properly.

I just don’t understand what goes through these people’s minds - do they not care about putting others at risk? It just seems so selfish and ignorant. I got off the bus feeling really panicky that they could have put me (and therefore my family) at risk. I’m not worried about myself but do worry about giving the virus to others (including my DC). I despair Sad

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RedcurrantPuff · 12/04/2021 21:51

I’m also still amazed at the faith people have in masks actually doing anything.

Brindisi32 · 12/04/2021 21:58

@RedcurrantPuff

I’m also still amazed at the faith people have in masks actually doing anything.
They definitely won't work if worn under the chin or under the nose
TheVampiresWife · 12/04/2021 22:04

@RedcurrantPuff

Oh not this nonsense again
Precisely.

I can't believe we're this far along and we're still getting mask froth threads.

DilemmaSummer · 12/04/2021 22:25

@RedcurrantPuff

I’m also still amazed at the faith people have in masks actually doing anything.
It reduces risk of transmission. Miracle cure? Nope. Eliminates Covid? Nope. But studies showed some evidence of reducing transmission, albeit not a significant amount. I hate masks, to be honest, and won’t be sad to see them gone but appreciate they have their place in some settings.
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70smusic · 12/04/2021 22:31

I can't believe we're this far along and we're still getting mask froth threads.

@RedcurrantPuff @TheVampiresWife And I can’t believe how many selfish people are perfectly happy to put their fellow passengers and bus drivers at increased risk. Are you someone who gets on public transport and doesn’t wear a mask? If so (and assuming you’re not exempt) then shame on you.

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oldegg123 · 12/04/2021 22:36

@RedcurrantPuff

Oh not this nonsense again
Not these posts again

If you're infectious, masks reduce the amount of viral particles you release into the surrounding environment. The exact amount by which they do this is what is up for debate, not whether or not they "work".

This reduces the level of exposures to others in the vicinity, so people are less likely to become infected, and if they are, exposed to a lower viral load which is associated with better clinical outcomes. This prevents chains of infections that lead to hospitalizations, deaths, long-term symptoms and emergence of new strains.

It is a very simple precaution that, on a population-level, helps reduce transmission.

Dolciedolly · 12/04/2021 23:10

@MaxNormal

Do people feel like they shouldn’t have to wear a mask to protect others?

Honestly I'm at the point where I feel like I've done enough now, yes. It's about time for those who are vulnerable to mitigate their own risks.

Exactly I have spent over a year protecting others now I need to protect mine and my children's mental health !!!
ilovesooty · 12/04/2021 23:16

If you're not exempt why is wearing a mask for a short period of time and complying with regulations which are still in place a risk to the mental health of you and your children?

GreaseproofPaper · 12/04/2021 23:23

I cannot believe the responses you are getting here OP. One of the things that has stayed with me over the last few months was a bus driver seriously ill with Covid on the BBC Hospital documentary. I could not believe that people would refuse to wear a mask on a bus. Until I read this thread.

bringbacksideburns · 12/04/2021 23:27

Judging by the lovely responses on this thread it doesnt surprise me in the slightest OP.

And what a little gem you are who posted this:

Surely it’s common knowledge that buses and their patrons tend to be trashy - there’s a certain subsection of society that are obnoxious and rowdy and tend to use buses.

DdraigGoch · 12/04/2021 23:35

I was on a train a couple of weeks ago... One person was even vaping.
The sooner that the guards are going through again the better. I'm getting fed up with going into the toilet and finding it full of smoke because someone has been having a crafty fag in there. It was so much rarer when there was a chance of getting caught. Ditto feet on the seats.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 12/04/2021 23:50

Oh, it's bliss. I'm rural and can ride for free to do a bit of shopping. No guards. I don't care if people vape or take off their masks. I join in. Our neighbours had a party about three weeks ago. I grabbed a bottle of wine I was considering opening on my own and chapped on the door. 'Hey, can I come in?' 'Sure!' Hadn't had that much fun in almost a year.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2021 00:08

How does bus driver Tom know he caught it at work?
Could of caught it in a supermarket, off food packets anything
Surface transmission is of little concern.

namechangeaga1n · 13/04/2021 00:18

People are fed up, so 'assessing their own risks', ridiculing those people and the scientists and not doing a simple, easy thing to better protect those around them. Everyone is fed up of lockdown. However, some people will also rationalise selfish behaviour by saying all the vulnerable have been fully vaccinated (they haven't)...I could catch it in a shop...It's only flu etc etc and those people probably will be fine. It's some other poor fucker and family that will suffer.

sleepwouldbenice · 13/04/2021 00:23

@ilovesooty

And I'm getting sick to death of people not following the rules which are still there and thinking "I don't want to" is a good enough reason to bully posters who continue to follow the rules . .
Yep. Same bunch of enough is enough, anti mask, anti lock down, great barrington declaration bull, it’s only flu, everyone i know is doing what they want, lock down lover crap spouting idiots Anyone who suggests following rules for now or taking it slowly is bullied down. Very predictable
DdraigGoch · 13/04/2021 00:25

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Oh, it's bliss. I'm rural and can ride for free to do a bit of shopping. No guards. I don't care if people vape or take off their masks. I join in. Our neighbours had a party about three weeks ago. I grabbed a bottle of wine I was considering opening on my own and chapped on the door. 'Hey, can I come in?' 'Sure!' Hadn't had that much fun in almost a year.
Oh I'm sure that it's so great for you without guards. Drug runners and other criminals going for free, people sending their sickly vape fumes across the carriage, obnoxious twats with their 'music' on loudspeaker, creeps free to harass...

The sooner that this anarchy stops the better.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 13/04/2021 00:27

Aw, but that would mean people wouldn't have their precious lockdown.

oldegg123 · 13/04/2021 00:33

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Aw, but that would mean people wouldn't have their precious lockdown.
You realise that wearing masks is a measure that reduces transmission, allowing things like lockdown being lifted, shops remaining open to happen?

It’s fine balancing act to keep R down while reopening society, masks are a very easy way of helping that to happen.

ilovesooty · 13/04/2021 05:17

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Aw, but that would mean people wouldn't have their precious lockdown.
"precious lock down"

Fucking stupid statement. Another attempt to attack people who just feel that relaxing restrictions cautiously is sensible. I'm not fucking enjoying the restrictions. I just think that the relaxation should be sensibly paced and carefully monitored. I don't think I should be belittled and my motivations lied about for daring to think that. I want the relaxation of restrictions to be done right so that the country can begin to return to normality and not be subjected to in and out ooxkdowns.

And now the belittling and attacking of people holding my point of view is being established on here and is gathering pace I don't see why me and others like me shouldn't challenge it

Vallmo47 · 13/04/2021 05:36

The responses on this thread makes me SO sad. Everyone is fed up, yes, but I want to get out of this mess so I fully intend of sticking to the rules until it’s safe not to. Four pages on this thread pretty much saying the same thing ... no compassion whatsoever. It doesn’t matter whether Op is clinically vulnerable. But presume she is - people STILL don’t give a toss!! Unbelievable. All these people will be complaining loudly when we have to lock down yet again I’m sure.

OP has just as much right to feel safe on public transport as you do. Not to mention the amount of people with mental health issues and health anxiety after the year we’ve had. No one gives a toss about these people either. Wear a mask correctly because we are still supposed to, but also because there are people who are genuinely terrified. Why be so horrible about it?

Sorry OP. How times have changed. :/

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70smusic · 13/04/2021 06:46

The responses on this thread makes me SO sad.

Thanks @Vallmo47. Disheartening isn’t it? I just don’t understand how people can be so selfish and not care that they could be spreading the disease to others and potentially making them very ill. It’s depressing.

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Pomegranatespompom · 13/04/2021 06:57

I think MN has a lot of new posters with unpleasant views. Quite an agenda.

Sorry you had a hard time op.

TheVampiresWife · 13/04/2021 07:06

@70smusic

I can't believe we're this far along and we're still getting mask froth threads.

@RedcurrantPuff @TheVampiresWife And I can’t believe how many selfish people are perfectly happy to put their fellow passengers and bus drivers at increased risk. Are you someone who gets on public transport and doesn’t wear a mask? If so (and assuming you’re not exempt) then shame on you.

No, I don't wear a mask because I have trigeminal neuralgia and am exempt. Yes, I so think if you can wear a mask, you should.

But no way could I get worked up enough to post on MN if I saw a few people with their masks under their noses. As an exempt person myself I'd wonder if perhaps they found the mask difficult to wear for long periods so took it down occasionally, if I gave it any thought at all. Although to be honest, it wouldn't.

The mask police and their vitriol (I've been spat at, threatened, shouted at) get on my tits far more than the minority of people who wear their masks 'incorrectly'.

OpheliasCrayon · 13/04/2021 07:19

@MrsHastingslikethebattle

*It’s interesting that people are so obsessed about ‘the vulnerable’ all of a sudden.

Prior to Covid, there have always been vulnerable people*

Didn't you know, there was no risk before Covid?Hmm Covid is the worse thing out there. We must have zero cases to live a normal life.
Next alcohol, cigarettes and chocolate will be banned to save millions through preventable disease...oh no wait, that would be too unfair to stop the choice of many to save a small minority wouldn't it?

Great point, wasting your breath. People have been scared into submission for a year now. No rational thinking is to be had.

I've always been vulnerable to certain illnesses and what other people do / don't do is of a risk to me. Like you say though... Vulnerable didn't matter before this. No one gave a damn if they made me ill before they could also get ill with something life threatening... 🤣
TheVampiresWife · 13/04/2021 07:33

@OpheliasCrayon so true. I became very ill with flu one winter (the medication I was on at the time suppressed my immunity so flu was very dangerous, even though I'd had my jab). One of DH's close colleagues had gone into work with flu, passed it on to him who passed it on to me. Nobody gave a flying fuck in the good old days! Thing is, apart from not doing the obviously gross things (not using tissues, licking my face), I didn't expect them to. I'm still vulnerable and I still don't, now that numbers are so low and I've been vaccinated. Life has to go on or what's the point of living?

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