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World Economic Forum event

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AcornAutumn · 09/04/2021 17:46

Two days ago, this event took place, re Scaling Up Digital ID.

www.weforum.org/events/global-technology-governance-summit-2021/sessions/scaling-up-digital-identity-systems

A written summary here

sociable.co/government-and-policy/vaccine-passports-drive-forced-consent-standardization-digital-identity-schemes-wef-summit/

It refers to vaccine passports in many ways.

Some posters seem to think it's about showing your vax status. It isn't. These tech developments are happening in front of us. No secrecy, no conspiracy. If you are happy with it, great.

Quotes include:

“I’m hoping with the desire and global demand for some sort of vaccine passport — so that people can get traveling and working again — will drive forced consent, standardization, and frankly, cooperation across the world” — Sandra Ro, CEO at Global Blockchain Business Council


“Our goal is to enable all life situations with this digital ID” — Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine’s Minister of Digital Transformation

He hopes to achieve this in 3 years.

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PatriciaHolm · 10/04/2021 14:52

[quote LittleRed53]@TheReluctantPhoenix I take your point about stat analysis and needing details and context to rightly understand statistics. However the percentage of vaccinated individuals in Chile is one of the highest in the world, and the number of new cases now is spiking. At the least, surely that puts doubt on how effective the vaccines truly are, at either preventing transmission, infection or serious illness/death resulting from infection.[/quote]
In part at least, because Chile basically abandoned many other measures. The economies minister gave his blessing to the opening of indoor hospitality, cinemas, gyms etc, as well as regional and international travel in Jan/Feb - pretty much from the very start of the vaccine programme - not giving it any time to have an effect before relaxing.

Sstrongtn · 10/04/2021 14:54

It already is if my police letter is anything to go by. “He’d be confused about consent because you said no but eventually complied with his request (after being beaten into it)” so we can’t prosecute.

Sstrongtn · 10/04/2021 14:55

Sorry was supposed to quote a PP about forced consent but it failed.

TheReluctantPhoenix · 10/04/2021 15:04

@Terracotta9,

Well, I searched the actual article for 'forced consent' but did not find it. I assume that it is in someone else's speech.

The actual WEF conference article is linked below:

www.weforum.org/focus/fourth-industrial-revolution

It is very much a discussion on the benefits and risks of big data, with no conclusion.

The WEF is just a talking shop with no power, where businesses court government contracts and the rich get to show off.

People have taken very little and gone an awfully long way with it.

Ephe17 · 10/04/2021 15:08

@CautiousBlonde

The World Health Organisation is suggesting that implied consent can be applied when it comes to the Covid vaccine for children. So, if you have previously not given consent for your child to have the vaccine but send you child in to school on the day of the vaccine, they will take that as implied consent and your child will be given the vaccine.

Not good. At. All

They approached my daughter to get her to consent to the HPV vac early last year. I had not consented. She refused.

At work it is now mandatory for new starters to have a flu jab.

IMO they are pushing to end bodily autonomy.

FreyaFolkvangr · 10/04/2021 15:08

2. The global tech currency becomes a thing and those who aren’t microchipped (And vaccinated, of course ) are no longer able to buy or sell

No one has been micro-chipped.

No one is going to be micro-chipped.

AcornAutumn · 10/04/2021 15:11

The CT stuff is so strong now

If the St Vincent story is true, I'd tell mum, she wouldn't believe me. If the BBC don't carry it, she'll check with other rellies who will say it is a lie and she will tell me I'm upset about nothing.

At this point, if I decided to exit, I think she'd blame CTs. It is beyond imagination that public live streamed events are now set in people's heads as CTs.

I am glad the thread got this far and maybe even lurkers are thinking about their tech.

It's like with Cambridge Analytica, how did people NOT know what was being done? It was a textbook marketing data analysis thing. Yet people who work in the field were apparently shocked. I mean people I know, not people on TV pretending to be shocked.

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RhubarbTea · 10/04/2021 15:11

Thanks for this thread. It's stuff I have seen coming down the line for a long while, but it's comforting to talk to others who are also aware of it.

@lightand I'm a Christian too and have been praying a lot about this. It sometimes feels like the only thing to do.

AcornAutumn · 10/04/2021 15:12

@RhubarbTea

Thanks for this thread. It's stuff I have seen coming down the line for a long while, but it's comforting to talk to others who are also aware of it.

@lightand I'm a Christian too and have been praying a lot about this. It sometimes feels like the only thing to do.

You can also use cash and refuse tech where possible.
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TheReluctantPhoenix · 10/04/2021 15:15

Anyone care to post a link to the original source of the WEF 'forced consent' quote, so that we can see the actual context?

Googling does not find much (apart from this thread!)

Ephe17 · 10/04/2021 15:15

@FreyaFolkvangr

2. The global tech currency becomes a thing and those who aren’t microchipped (And vaccinated, of course ) are no longer able to buy or sell

No one has been micro-chipped.

No one is going to be micro-chipped.

2017 A US company has microchipped its employees – we should welcome this as progress and get involved www.independent.co.uk/voices/wisconsin-company-microchip-employees-robots-artificial-intelligence-data-three-square-market-a7874486.html

2020
Microchipping Employees: A Rising Trend in the Future of Work?
trainingindustry.com/articles/learning-technologies/microchipping-employees-a-rising-trend-in-the-future-of-work/

A microchip, commonly referred to as a chip, is a radio frequency identification device (RFID) about the size of a grain of rice. When implanted, employees can unlock doors, log into their computers and even purchase snacks from the vending machine down the hall — with just a wave of the hand.

Terracotta9 · 10/04/2021 15:24

@TheReluctantPhoenix

The quote came from Sandra Ro, CEO of Global Blockchain Business Council.

You say the WEF has no power, but it’s literally a summit of world leaders. Here’s a list of some of the attendees from 2020

Maybe we should pay attention when world leaders happily listen to business leaders use phrases like “forced consent”

Terracotta9 · 10/04/2021 15:25

“I’m hoping with the desire and global demand for some sort of vaccine passport — so that people can get traveling and working again — will drive forced consent, standardization, and frankly, cooperation across the world” — Sandra Ro, CEO at Global Blockchain Business Council“

It’s right there in the article the OP linked to

HumunaHey · 10/04/2021 15:26

@FreyaFolkvangr

2. The global tech currency becomes a thing and those who aren’t microchipped (And vaccinated, of course ) are no longer able to buy or sell

No one has been micro-chipped.

No one is going to be micro-chipped.

Microchipping has already happened around the world for various things. It's only a matter of time begore "forced consent" comes into play and people have little choice but to be chipped to be able to do regular things.
AcornAutumn · 10/04/2021 15:31

@TheReluctantPhoenix

Anyone care to post a link to the original source of the WEF 'forced consent' quote, so that we can see the actual context?

Googling does not find much (apart from this thread!)

It's at minute 44 of the event video in my OP. Go back a couple of minutes to hear the question.

But the whole thing is "how do we sell digital ID, enabled by blockchain".

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btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 15:46

@lightand

I have noticed even in the space of the last 4 months since I joined, I would say a definite slowdown of cries of consp iracy theory. People are waking up in my opinion.
Yes, I really agree with this.

They are the minority voices now coming onto threads to contort the growing body of evidence that something is amiss into something resembling human fallibility and coincidence.

It's quite a marvel to watch. Most stay away now because they know they cannot explain things anymore.

AcornAutumn · 10/04/2021 16:04

"It's quite a marvel to watch. Most stay away now because they know they cannot explain things anymore."

Interesting, I wasn't here at the start.

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Terracotta9 · 10/04/2021 16:14

@lightand
People are waking up in my opinion

I’ll second my agreement with @btwwhichonespink

I really believed in the first lockdown and thought we should’ve acted sooner and also should’ve done more to control the borders.

A year later and the scales have well and truly fallen from my eyes.

  • Seeing the utter scandal of PCR testing
  • Recording of covid deaths
  • Unverified science around “asymptomatic superspreaders”
  • complete media blackout regarding scientists who hold different views from the government response
  • a complete 180 degree turn in the WHO guidance regarding how to handle a global pandemic
  • Bad research methodology in the AstraZeneca trials
  • Screeching about Anti-Vaxxers anytime someone mentions concerns about rolling out new vaccine technologies across whole populations
  • seeing shops on my high street completely close down while Amazon snatches up all the market share
  • Boris saying “there’ll be no vaccine passports” while already having the contracts in place.
  • constant moving of the goalposts, remember “we just need to flatten the curve”?
  • The creepy way gov, tech industry and pharma have lockstepped into a perfect example of disaster capitalism.

This is perhaps the biggest public health scandal the world has ever seen. I think the WEF types have overplayed their hand with this one, however. People really are waking up.

bathsh3ba · 10/04/2021 16:16

@lightand @RhubarbTea also a Christian doing a lot of praying, though not sure I agree with the majority view on this thread and certainly don't think we are any more likely to be in the 'end times' than we are at any time.

From other Christians I have spoken to, there is a cohort of Christians who have been posting things online about reported prophetic words that God says do not take the vaccine and other stuff. I haven't come across these things and always take any prophetic words with a pinch of salt - we should always test the spirits. So I think they are out there, and the Christians who have told me about it have all been black and of African heritage but whether that has any link, I don't know.

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 16:34

@AcornAutumn

"It's quite a marvel to watch. Most stay away now because they know they cannot explain things anymore."

Interesting, I wasn't here at the start.

Me too. I just read, never got involved with the covid threads at all. I lobbed one or two grenades in when posters were super sanctimonious to wind them up but didn't engage.

Over the year I have noticed a gradual shift, more and more voices saying 'what on earth is going on?' So I started joining in as it became possible to actually discuss it. A lot more has happened, things are increasingly irrational so there is less scope to brush it all under the carpet.

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 16:37

@Terracotta9 100% yes to your whole list.

And we all have access to the same information in the public domain so there is no excuse for not asking salient questions IMHO

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 16:40

@bathsh3ba One thing that has surprised me is the lack of religious criticism of the vaccines. All I hear about are objections to the cell lines used to grow viruses in. Why aren't Christians and other religions worried about the way the new vaccines take over the cell's machinery to produce foreign proteins?

This is not an anti-vax question, it is curiosity that this isn't an issue within religious circles.

Ephe17 · 10/04/2021 16:49

@Terracotta9
I really believed in the first lockdown and thought we should’ve acted sooner and also should’ve done more to control the borders

I am on some of the earliest CV threads on MN. In January 2020 I started prepping, had huge stocks of food, medicines, medical devices (nebulisers, pulse oximeters, thermometers) masks that filtered to 0.4 microns, eye protection, vitamins etc etc.

I really feared it would the overdue pandemic that had been mooted over the last 20 years.

By June last year it was clear that it was not what I had feared. I work in the NHS. Case numbers, deaths were low. The hospital the quietest I'd ever seen.

Meanwhile the government seemed to make every wrong decision to make things worse. From leaving the borders open to China and Italy early on to not mandating mask usage in hospital for the first wave but bringing in mask mandates in summer when cases were low.

Then we have the PCR tests cycles of 45 which are far too high, classing anyone to have died within 28 days of a dodgy postive PCR test as having died of CV even if the had been hit by a bus.

The constant gaslighting by the MSM and government is yet another shocking thing. People look terrified.

Now the push to vaccinate everyone for a disease which is mostly dangerous to the elderly or people who are CEV.

Get the vaccine or kill granny, get the vaccine or you can't have freedoms back.

Classic divide and conquer too.

It's sinister.

Hopefully people are waking up and will say enough.

lightand · 10/04/2021 17:04

[quote btwwhichonespink]@bathsh3ba One thing that has surprised me is the lack of religious criticism of the vaccines. All I hear about are objections to the cell lines used to grow viruses in. Why aren't Christians and other religions worried about the way the new vaccines take over the cell's machinery to produce foreign proteins?

This is not an anti-vax question, it is curiosity that this isn't an issue within religious circles.[/quote]
Most Christains wouldnt have a clue. I would include myself in that.
Sadly, the higher ups in some UK denominations are not that Jesus, God and the Bible based in my personal opinion.

What is the issue please?

AcornAutumn · 10/04/2021 17:07

Might be an idea to put religious questions on a separate thread...it would be sad if this got pulled.

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