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World Economic Forum event

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AcornAutumn · 09/04/2021 17:46

Two days ago, this event took place, re Scaling Up Digital ID.

www.weforum.org/events/global-technology-governance-summit-2021/sessions/scaling-up-digital-identity-systems

A written summary here

sociable.co/government-and-policy/vaccine-passports-drive-forced-consent-standardization-digital-identity-schemes-wef-summit/

It refers to vaccine passports in many ways.

Some posters seem to think it's about showing your vax status. It isn't. These tech developments are happening in front of us. No secrecy, no conspiracy. If you are happy with it, great.

Quotes include:

“I’m hoping with the desire and global demand for some sort of vaccine passport — so that people can get traveling and working again — will drive forced consent, standardization, and frankly, cooperation across the world” — Sandra Ro, CEO at Global Blockchain Business Council


“Our goal is to enable all life situations with this digital ID” — Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine’s Minister of Digital Transformation

He hopes to achieve this in 3 years.

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AcornAutumn · 15/04/2021 12:37

@Wildswim

David Attenborough new documentary. About how 'humans are the intruder'. The world would be far better off without us. And we need a new normal post Covid.

Values have been inverted. Humans are not superior to animals or the natural world any more - we are a nuisance.

I always saw us as the intruder

But if they wanted to address overpopulation, they could have done that decades ago.

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btwwhichonespink · 15/04/2021 14:32

David Attenborough is not wrong about humans, but plunging 7 billion into despair, slavery and hunger isn't the solution. Although as a multi-millionaire I am sure it the answer he would like.

We've only really had 150 years of industrialisation, which has done the bulk of the damage to the environment and the earth. It's not ordinary people buying Chinese plastic and eating beef that have caused this. It's the very same billionaires that now want us all to suffer to pay for the consequences of their wealth accumulation.

lightand · 15/04/2021 14:53

Easier to spot the globalists now.

Littlefiendsusan · 15/04/2021 15:37

@lightand do you mean on this thread or irl?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/04/2021 11:04

Haven't forgotten about this thread, and thought I'd just drop this here because interesting......

www.globalresearch.ca/kissinger-warns-washington-accept-new-global-system-face-pre-wwi-geopolitical-situation/5741911

And

www.weforum.org/people/henry-a-kissinger

Now I don't know how much power or influence old Henry has these days (tbh I thought he'd shuffled off the mortal coil a while ago) but given the current geopolitical landscape, I found this........ interesting...... in the context of the thread.

Wildswim · 16/04/2021 11:48

Thanks @MistressoftheDarkSide.

What do you think Kissinger means by 'a new international system'?

His record in the dark and shady days of Nixon (both in foreign and domestic policy) would indicate that he is not a moral person.

BelleHathor · 16/04/2021 12:27

It's precisely because of Henry Kissinger and his "policies" that the world is in the dire geopolitical state that it is today.

Here is an extract from Adam Curtis's documentary Hypernormalisation about Kissinger and Assad:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xetlc1wZT-U

The full documentary although long is excellent in describing why we have the politicians that we have today, blurb:
"We live in a time of great uncertainty and confusion. Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks. And those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed - they have no idea what to do.This film is the epic story of how we got to this strange place. It explains not only why these chaotic events are happening - but also why we, and our politicians, cannot understand them."
m.youtube.com/watch?v=fh2cDKyFdyU

BelleHathor · 16/04/2021 12:37

Good article on the documentary:
www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/adam-curtiss-essential-counterhistories/amp
Quote: “We live in a world where the powerful deceive us. We know they lie, they know we know they lie, they don’t care. We say we care, but we do nothing. And nothing ever changes. It’s normal. Welcome to the post-truth world.”

...His films posit that the official history of the twentieth century—told to us by statesmen and newsreaders, amplified by the mainstream media in all its technologically enhanced forms—is the work of “managers of perception,” people who avoid telling the public the uncomfortable and complicated truths about the world in order to retain power within a status quo that isn’t ever quite what it seems to be...

NewYearNewTwatName · 16/04/2021 15:39

Hello not RTFT, but need to know a little more about YOTI.

my DS is trying to withdraw his trust fund, only way he can is to use YOTI. which wants to scan his face? and to upload his password photo for comparison.

he's not happy and quite uncomfortable about it.

NewYearNewTwatName · 16/04/2021 15:41

*passport photo

Frogartist · 16/04/2021 18:57

@NewYearNewTwatName

Hello not RTFT, but need to know a little more about YOTI.

my DS is trying to withdraw his trust fund, only way he can is to use YOTI. which wants to scan his face? and to upload his password photo for comparison.

he's not happy and quite uncomfortable about it.

That doesn't sound right at all!
NewYearNewTwatName · 16/04/2021 19:54

Frogartist I know, it makes me really angry that for my son to access his trust fund he has to create a digital ID account Angry

I've told him not too, until I find out if there is another way. He's said if he has too, he will delete it straight after transferring his money. as apparently YOTI can't see his details and it heavily encrypted, so hopefully once deleted no-one should be able to get access.

FluWorldOrder · 16/04/2021 22:34

People really need to look into the the UN and the relationship they have with The Lucis Trust, who the Lucis Trust are, its founder and ideology. I'm sure MN will delete my comment, much like they did a thread I started a few months ago about this. I can't even log in to that account anymore. MN all about freedom of speech!

LittleRed53 · 16/04/2021 22:59

@FluWorldOrder Okay, at first glance it all looks pretty bizarre... What is a luciferian organisation doing working on a consultative basis with the UN...?

I'm surprised I've never even heard of them before.

FluWorldOrder · 16/04/2021 23:08

[quote LittleRed53]@FluWorldOrder Okay, at first glance it all looks pretty bizarre... What is a luciferian organisation doing working on a consultative basis with the UN...?

I'm surprised I've never even heard of them before.[/quote]
Quite. I don't want to say too much because I already had my main account deleted trying to talk about this. But people can take a look for themselves, which I'm glad you have. I was actually surprised to see this thread and the nature of it on MN, although I'm glad. People need to realise there's much more to this than 'COVID'.

FluWorldOrder · 16/04/2021 23:10

[quote LittleRed53]@FluWorldOrder Okay, at first glance it all looks pretty bizarre... What is a luciferian organisation doing working on a consultative basis with the UN...?

I'm surprised I've never even heard of them before.[/quote]
Oh and I don't think we're supposed to have heard of them, unsurprisingly. But yes.. original name the Lucifer Trust as well.

LittleRed53 · 16/04/2021 23:33

Yes, I saw that, the original name.

I will definitely read more about this. Thank you for posting about it.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2021 10:32

Interesting posts to see this morning.

Like others am wary of going down THAT rabbit hole, but I will say three things.

The first - follow the money / power. That is usually the bottom line of any organisation that seeks to insert itself into wide reaching political affairs. See Scientology:

“You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.”

― L. Ron Hubbard

Secondly, we humans want answers and solutions and stability while we go about our biologically driven impulsive lives. You can make anything sound reasonable to a person if it solves their immediate problem / need, if couched in language that resonates, hence propaganda.

Finally, I really boggle at the fact that people making huge political decisions are still allowed to use the "because the deity / spirit / whatever is on my side / working through me" when doing so. So yes, discussing underlying ideologies of various influential organisations should not be off the table.

Now that we have science and other rational means of explaining the world etc, religion / spirituality should have no part in policy making. The caveat is we should practise humanitarianism and the fair and just treatment of all. Untangling the last 2000 years of the tug of war between this group and that group and the "I've got the answer you haven't" when more and more people discover an insidious way to get a foothold in the modern world is a monumental task.

For the record, I have an interest in the esoteric and occult myself, but don't tend to practise anything or name myself as anything because I don't know what the truth is. We only have the regurgitated thoughts, philosophies and writings of people who may have been under the influence of hallucinogenics for all I know. I've experienced high weirdness, but it doesn't change how I approach my life - do what I can for those around me, try not to harm anyone, basically keep my head down as an average human being with flaws.

I keep saying it - we live in strange and interesting times, made moreso by the constant stream of information and rapidly developing technology. Whatever direction we are being pulled in by those in charge, when we see the creep of ideology and marginalisation we are within our rights to question it and push back.

FluWorldOrder · 17/04/2021 14:42

Yes @MistressoftheDarkSide but what bothers me about the UN, the WEF and the like are they're not even elected bodies. They're just doing their own thing with literally NO say from Jo Public.

Also I wouldn't be wary of 'going down rabbit holes' HATE that term, but it is what it is. If people aren't going down rabbit holes after the last year they must have the intuition of a gnat, IMHO.

You should check out Mark Passio on YT.

FluWorldOrder · 17/04/2021 14:48

Oh yes and your reference to propaganda @MistressoftheDarkSide
The celebrity PM of New Zealand (where I'm from) is literally on the record saying they drive home the 'dangers' of COVID using sustained propaganda. Her words, not mine. Given there was a projected 80,000 to die in NZ and less than 30 have it is absolutely laughable at this point that people STILL think we're dealing with the deadly pestilence.

loulouljh · 17/04/2021 14:55

So worrying...and all in plain sight. And people still won't see it.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2021 17:07

@FluWorldOrder I absolutely agree with you and apologies for the rabbit hole thing - I use it cynically most of the time.

Yes they are unelected bodies and I'm utterly opposed to the elitist secret societies that underpin our governing bodies.

Funnily enough Russell Brand, another we are supposed to dismiss as being part of the lunatic fringe has uploaded part of an interview with Edward Snowden today touching on just this subject. It's worth a quick listen because it talks about how many people are more interested in the lurid than the rather banal economic ruthlessness and also feel empowered by thinking storming a pizza joint or burning down a cell phone tower will make a difference, when actually what is needed is sustained exposure of things.

How many people understand global economics - it's way over my head and combing through legislation and spreadsheets in no way has the appeal of taking down a child smuggling ring for example to the average Jo.

Where do we look for accountability in these situations?

The PM of NZ would no doubt argue that it is because of the propaganda that Covid is so low there, and how many people fully embrace the idea that the ends justify the means.

I find it most worrying that because of the stigma of supposed conspiracy theories any sort of conversation about things happening in plain sight is stifled, as @loulouljh says.

We are told we have democracy, but what does that even mean any more when such scandals as Cambridge Analytica prove that elections can be manipulated and indeed are apparently fair game.

How many people in positions of power are truly invested in the well-being of humanity? How many are bought / blackmailed or smeared and cancelled if they do try to whistleblow? It's a risky business.

NearlyAlwaysInsane · 17/04/2021 17:29

@btwwhichonespink

David Attenborough is not wrong about humans, but plunging 7 billion into despair, slavery and hunger isn't the solution. Although as a multi-millionaire I am sure it the answer he would like.

We've only really had 150 years of industrialisation, which has done the bulk of the damage to the environment and the earth. It's not ordinary people buying Chinese plastic and eating beef that have caused this. It's the very same billionaires that now want us all to suffer to pay for the consequences of their wealth accumulation.

This. There is a strong trend to blame the poorest, and the 'Other', for the world's problems. Blame 'foreigners' for Covid. Blame the poor for taking holidays in Spain, or too many showers. Blame poor women in the developing world for overpopulation (and use that to force imperialistic Western health policies on countries that don't want them). Blame migrants and asylum seekers for the crisis in services like the NHS. Just don't look at mismanagement and ideologically-driven, hare-brained policies year in, year out, from all sides of the political spectrum.

David Attenborough is not wrong about humans

Now on this I fundamentally disagree. Yes, he is right that humans have caused massive untold damage. He is not right that we are intruders: we are responding to evolutionary stimuli as apex animals, that's all - if polar bears had evolved to our brain capacity, they would likely also be screwing up the world with fossil fuels and plastics. The question is where we go from here. Because what is coming round the bend in a few decades is severe depopulation - anyone whingeing about the poor state of the NHS today needs to think about that will look like in 20-30 years' time.

FluWorldOrder · 17/04/2021 19:31

@loulouljh

So worrying...and all in plain sight. And people still won't see it.
Agreed. Did you look at the Lucis Trust? But people dismiss this as conspiracy theory despite the fact it’s right there in black and white. The UN consult with them on ‘spiritual matters’ Confused
NearlyAlwaysInsane · 17/04/2021 19:55

Agreed. Did you look at the Lucis Trust? But people dismiss this as conspiracy theory despite the fact it’s right there in black and white. The UN consult with them on ‘spiritual matters’

Just looked at it, and it is horrifying. And their NY offices appear to be right at the UN Plaza, too - well-funded, probably. And their world coordination ideas are also thinly veiled mish-mashes of New Age and other weird currents.