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World Economic Forum event

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AcornAutumn · 09/04/2021 17:46

Two days ago, this event took place, re Scaling Up Digital ID.

www.weforum.org/events/global-technology-governance-summit-2021/sessions/scaling-up-digital-identity-systems

A written summary here

sociable.co/government-and-policy/vaccine-passports-drive-forced-consent-standardization-digital-identity-schemes-wef-summit/

It refers to vaccine passports in many ways.

Some posters seem to think it's about showing your vax status. It isn't. These tech developments are happening in front of us. No secrecy, no conspiracy. If you are happy with it, great.

Quotes include:

“I’m hoping with the desire and global demand for some sort of vaccine passport — so that people can get traveling and working again — will drive forced consent, standardization, and frankly, cooperation across the world” — Sandra Ro, CEO at Global Blockchain Business Council


“Our goal is to enable all life situations with this digital ID” — Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine’s Minister of Digital Transformation

He hopes to achieve this in 3 years.

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CautiousBlonde · 09/04/2021 20:14

*isn’t jumping up and down!!!!

HumunaHey · 09/04/2021 20:17

@savethegrannies

People have been warning on this very forum that lockdowns were the thin end of the wedge since this time last year. Plenty of people posted interesting, factual stuff and got called names, abused and dismissed as deniers or conspiracy theorists. MN even removed some perfectly reasonable posts. There are hundreds of threads where this is the case. The future really does look bleak as this all looks like a done deal from where I'm sat.
That's the most worrying thing about this all - the absolute shutdown of anyone who questions/criticizes what's happening.
YukoandHiro · 09/04/2021 20:19

Jesus. That's chilling

Littlefiendsusan · 09/04/2021 20:19

Thanks for starting this thread.

It is good to know there are others out there who are worried at what's happening in plain sight.

CautiousBlonde · 09/04/2021 20:21

The World Health Organisation is suggesting that implied consent can be applied when it comes to the Covid vaccine for children. So, if you have previously not given consent for your child to have the vaccine but send you child in to school on the day of the vaccine, they will take that as implied consent and your child will be given the vaccine.

Not good. At. All

AbsentmindedWoman · 09/04/2021 20:24

@CautiousBlonde

I don’t think we can stop it, although I’ll never give up trying.

I’m learning survival skills for when either

  1. this blows up completely and the unvaccinated are shunned from society

Or

  1. The global tech currency becomes a thing and those who aren’t microchipped (And vaccinated, of course ) are no longer able to buy or sell

I’m quite surprised the Pope is jumping up and down screaming “Revelation people, the bit right at the end which talks about the mark of the beast.....”

But why would it be in anyone's interests to 'shun' the unvaccinated from society? What would the motive be?

How do you envisage the global tech currency (do you mean some kind of cryptocurrency? which one/ stemming from what organisation?...) and microchipping merging so that the result is you can't buy or sell?

Why and how would these things happen as you have outlined?

CautiousBlonde · 09/04/2021 20:42

@AbsentmindedWoman

They will make out that we are spreading the virus (even though the vaccinated can do that too) and people will believe them, so it will become them and us. The passport may stop the unvaccinated from using services in society; shops, transport etc

They will want us out of the picture because we are not complying

We are heading towards the 4th industrial revolution. It will be a technological one. The global currency will be something like bitcoin but it will only be able to be used via some sort of technology, which will be the implant (which is already being trialled in this country). Whoever doesn’t have the chip, won’t have the currency and therefore won’t be able to buy or sell.

Stemming from World Economic Forum. Has been their agenda for years. Most governments are already listening to these people. When country economies crash, as they are bankrupt (because of Covid), in step the big guys with this tech-currency.

Seriously, all this information is out there but you have to dig deep. Have a look.

Terracotta9 · 09/04/2021 20:46

@AbsentmindedWoman

this interview explains the possible motivations for introducing a digital currency and how it ties in with public health measures like vaccine passports and lockdown.

Catherine Austin Fitts is an investment banker and was part of the Bush administration. She is credible.

The points she raises are chilling. On the face of it, I don’t know if I can agree with all of it, but I think at least some of her assessments are correct. Worth watching for anyone interested in these questions.

AcornAutumn · 09/04/2021 20:46

No one has to dig deep if they can face reading this

www.amazon.co.uk/Fourth-Industrial-Revolution-Professor-Dr-Ing-ebook/dp/B01MSJM2TE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&crid=2ZFJO5LQKY3A7&keywords=fourth+industrial+revolution&sprefix=Fourth+in%2Caps%2C220&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1617997497&sr=8-1

I read it in 2018 but didn't finish it as it was so depressing. Perhaps I should have (I got it from the library and the waiting list is long now).

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CautiousBlonde · 09/04/2021 20:54

Thanks for the above guys

confuseddotcom090 · 09/04/2021 21:13

It's so scary I don't even want to read it.
Which countries are not complicit in this?

MrsGradyOldLady · 09/04/2021 21:23

@confuseddotcom090

It's so scary I don't even want to read it. Which countries are not complicit in this?
Russia maybe? Putin spoke against it.

Then there was Tanzania but well we all know what happened to the president...

AcornAutumn · 09/04/2021 23:44

@confuseddotcom090

It's so scary I don't even want to read it. Which countries are not complicit in this?
Please do At least get an idea of what might be happening with your tech choices

And then you have more power to act accordingly.

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BelleHathor · 10/04/2021 00:00

Then there was Tanzania but well we all know what happened to the president...
Kicked out the WHO.....showed a papaya and goat testing positive for Covid....refused to lockdown..... months later dies and within weeks his successor invites the WHO back.

World Economic Forum event
Hairwizard · 10/04/2021 11:19

Finally. Maybe now more will wake the fuck up.
Not read those yet op but forced consent is just wtf?? My poor kids. What am i leaving them to?

Terracotta9 · 10/04/2021 11:38

@confuseddotcom090
It's so scary I don't even want to read it.
Which countries are not complicit in this?

For those who find it too upsetting to even think about, I encourage you to check out the interview with Catherine Austin Fitts. She rightly points out that we don’t have to go along with these plans the WEF and the like are trying to put into place. It’s ordinary people who work for drug companies, tech companies, government etc who are building the tools for the WEFs envisioned technocracy, but we don’t have to accept it. She says something amusing towards the end - “if 20 women refused to sleep with 20 big pharma execs for their shitty evil behaviours, it would be a revolution.”

On a smaller level it’s worth thinking about things you can do to limit your dependence on big tech. Don’t bring an Alexa into your home or other creepy surveillance technologies. Stop using gmail. Buy local and support small business (if they are ever allowed to reopen). Write to your MP about why vaccine passports are a terrible idea. Think of it as many small choices you can make rather than fighting one big revolutionary battle.

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 11:59

Great thread, especially about the choice not to participate.

That's why disasters like pandemics and wars, and big terrorist acts, are ideal for bringing massive, unpopular changes. Mass global use of mRNA/DNA VV vaccines and vaccine passports (sorry Boris, Covid Status Certification - because that sounds so much more fluffy and non-totalitarian) would be totally rejected by rational people without such catalysts.

A bit of pandemic propaganda and everyone (well, not everyone!) is begging for their new tech vaccines and vaccine passports. It does bring to mind the chicken and egg question.

savethegrannies · 10/04/2021 12:13

These plans will hit the poor and working class hardest. They are pulling up the financial drawbridge and further blurring the lines between big business and governments. There is no doubt covid has been a perfect vehicle for speeding up wef's dark agenda.
That's why one ask to ask: where the fuck is the Labour Party in all this? Starmer is so WET

Terracotta9 · 10/04/2021 12:18

Yes the lack of any real opposition to this stuff is stark.

I never thought I’d say this, but I wish Corbyn was still around.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 10/04/2021 12:22

Morning.

I watched the video, and alot makes sense and aligns with thoughts I've had for a number of years - for example who really is now in charge? I balked a bit at the reference to "magic virus" as demonstrably the virus is real and has caused devastation and death to many who have caught it, but possibly, in the context of the whole video, the meaning was more of the magic opportunity that disasters capitalists have been afforded.

The injections for human system interfaces via technology distributed in this way also made me grit my teeth a bit. But then, a number of tech company employees do use RFID chips to enter their workplaces and for financial transactions...... so that requires much further investigation. I'm mindful of the fact that generally, with anything available to the general populous in terms of tech, research programmes may be some years further down the line.

And then co-incidentally, a quick look at the Guardian gave me this:

www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/09/elon-musk-neuralink-monkey-video-game

"Co-founded by Musk in 2016, the San Francisco-based Neuralink aims to implant wireless brain computer chips to help cure neurological conditions like Alzheimer’s, dementia and spinal cord injuries and fuse humankind with artificial intelligence – though the technology is still in its early stages.

In August 2020, Musk unveiled a pig with a Neuralink chip implant, describing it as “a Fitbit in your skull”. In July 2019, Neuralink showed off a design that involved implanting tiny electrode “threads” into the brain as well as another device behind the ear.

Musk has a history of bringing together diverse experts to develop technology previously limited to academic labs, including for rockets and electrical vehicles, through companies such as Tesla Inc and SpaceX."

So we have the caveat that it's all in its early stages and it's all for benign purposes, which do sound very worthy.

My overall conclusion is that the genie is well and truly out of the bottle, and there is unlikely to be a broadly good result - resistance may lead to chaos on the streets, acceptance is just as potentially dystopian.

Anyone else wanting to get off the planet, but also wanting to make sure our children's future is human rather than transhuman?

As a PP said, we can start with the little things. If enough people start questioning it all, and demanding transparency, maybe it would tip things back.

One of the arguments I see repeated against "conspiracy" is that employees who find out about it would whistleblow - you can't keep big secrets etc. But the counter argument is that there are non-disclosure clauses in contracts with legal ramifications if broken to start with. Anyone with a family would think twice about having to go to ground, disrupt and disadvantage them, or heaven forbid, put them at direct risk. For most, the choice between greater good and nearest and dearest is a horrible dilemma, and one which until faced with it, has no true answer.

I spoke to a younger female friend last night, when the subject of vaccine passports came up. Her view was that it was, within reason, a viable and measured plan. When I gave a few arguments against, she took the position that we would maintain the choice to have the vaccine and / or engage with the passport tracking, and that it's just a trade off because travel and going out shopping etc are "luxuries". The conversation changed after that and I kept schtum, before I was accused of complete tin foil hattery.

I think people think that because no-one is holding us at gunpoint, or sending us off to the gulags for "wrongthink" everything is generally benign. In general, the populous is very busy keeping body and soul together, and tech appears to make it easier so what's not to like. We are artfully steered and nudged with an underlying message of rewards for participation, and fear of being left behind. Look at all the platforms we have now, to promote ourselves and our businesses - Facebook, Youtube, Instagram, Tik Tok, Twitter, and every time a new one comes out, it gets added on. Every Youtube video, regardless of subject matter, says "Like, Subscribe, follow me on......." because there is potential to make money if you get enough traction.

For some of my generation, (50s) it's a foreign concept and country. I have done videos on Facebook for my shop - people seem to like them - no appreciable upturn in custom, but alot of praise. And then I noticed, that even sharing from the business page to my own and my DPs, the views went down and down, and I was getting messages encouraging me to pay for promotion. You may say, well that's fair, you can't expect free advertising, that's not how the world works. And if I were a big company, not scraping along on a week by week basis, maybe I would pay. It's a dilemma to be sure.

Anyway, sorry for the long ramble, my brain has been buzzing all week.....

Hope all are ok and I really appreciate the opportunity for discussion afforded here at the moment.

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 12:24

2 days before pubs can open and Oh No! A deadly new variant! www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/new-nigerian-covid-strain-thats-5283063

That was a conspiracy too. That every time we got within sniffing distance of freedom the government find new variants. Coincidence! they cried. Correlation does not mean causation!

So, do we think it will affect Monday or are they going to save it for the May 17th stage?

MaxNormal · 10/04/2021 12:27

Slightly tangential but don't get caught in a volcanic eruption if you're not vaccinated.
Every life is only precious in the context of covid apparently.

twitter.com/LeoWandersleb/status/1380713101398568963?s=19

savethegrannies · 10/04/2021 12:29

New fucking variant. Nobody was talking about new variants last year when they kept saying the vaccine was our way out of this.
We need some stats on how many people have had a vaccine then caught a new variant - and died. Proper stats not anecdotal crap.

btwwhichonespink · 10/04/2021 12:32

Good luck finding proper, meaningful stats on anything to do with covid @savethegrannies

The way they are compiled, the way deaths, admissions, cases, are counted, would get you an F in statistical analysis and research methods.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 10/04/2021 12:38

Jesus wept!

Anyone else wishing they placed bets on things being announced like "new variants" as the roadmap rolls on?

And that Tweet - evacuation from a life threatening natural event only if you're vaccinated??? What fresh hell is this?

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