Average age of coronavirus fatalities

[SlugsTrout]

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

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Yep.

Okay. So would you like to expand upon this?

I am interested in what your thoughts are.

Thankyou.

So... What?
They're elderly anyway so it doesn't matter?

What about the average age of those left with what is likely to be lifelong disabilities from covid do you have that figure?

@SlugsTrout

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

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What do you mean by that? We are not meant to care?

I wonder if people who post like this realise that they will also be in their 80's one day. Presumably they will be happy to sacrifice their lives at that point for the great good?

But surely you have some friends or family members in that age range?

Oh that’s ok then - 126000 dead but they were on average 80 so they’re expendable... until it’s your mother or father who’s dying, right?

It’s coming up to a year since a couple I know both died of covid. Both where late 70s.

Both where still active members of the community, giving up most of their time to help others from youth sport to volunteering in a care home. They where well respected, much missed members of the community and especially as things open up more their loss will be massively felt.

But hey they where old so irrelevant I guess OP?

It's like producing a chart with the average wage on, to prove that there's no poverty in the UK. It's meaningless.

We locked down to prevent our health systems from being overwhelmed by the people not dying but needing hospital beds. We are vaccinating people so the virus doesn't mutate in to a more dangerous form.

Yep, lots of old people have died. Not that many young people have died. We know. Fuckloads of people, of all ages, have been left with debilitating symptoms and multi-organ damage. And that's with lockdowns.

I recently saw a talk given by Michael Rosen who’s just written an amazing book about getting Covid, being in ICU, surviving and his longer term illness as a result.

He talked about how terrible it is that we as a society and medics generally have dismissed the older generation in all of this saying things like “oh well they are over 70” like people over 70 don’t have lives and loves and family and an interior life.

He also made a compelling case for how much more dangerous long Covid is for younger people and detailed some of the terrible cases he’s seen in rehabilitation classes/sessions. The majority of these are under 40, many having lost things like part of their sight/hearing and mobility with doctors having no idea if and when they’ll get better or how to begin to make them better. He said actually death isn’t the thing young people should be most scared of when it comes to Covid. Death is at least final (if untreatable) but losing your eyesight or use of your limbs is a sentence.

What IS your point? We know, we're not stupid, everyone knows it's mostly the elderly that died.

But you know what - one of those was was my 80 year old FIL. And he wasn't supposed to die yet. And he spent all fucking year shielding so he would have to chance to see his grandson again but he caught it at hospital appointment and was dead in 3 days of a positive test.
He was living independently and had only stopped work a few months before.
We miss him, my son misses him. He mattered.

Do you know, there's a beautiful ongoing thread about memories people have of their grandparents.
Then you see that there's also this week's eugenicist.

My father is in his early 80s and still working part time, still very active, and on top of this he lectures at a university and does a lot of research work.

Nice you think he would have apparently been expendable 5 years ago.

This is not new information you know? And it’s not as simplistic as you’re attempting to make it, there are so many factors that you’ve ignored to make one point that I’m immediately dismissive of you.

As ever, a cowardly namechanger too.
Bit offensive to slugs mind.

Same old ageist same old!

Ffs!

We are vaccinating people so the virus doesn't mutate in to a more dangerous form.

We were vaccinating people to reduce the likelihood of them becoming seriously ill/dying. That was why we prioritised certain groups. This ‘prevent mutant strains’ idea is relatively new goalpost that makes little sense when we have millions of unvaccinated children/younger people in the U.K. and millions unvaccinated around the world. Let’s just stick with the original idea and learn to live with the inevitability of a virus mutating.

I love all the people coming on to defend this with 'do you not care about old people'

Straw men to defend the indefensible.

We are hearing that all those dying after the vaccine would have died anyway as they were so old and frail. So which is it people?

@SlugsTrout

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

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And?

So, whats your point? Those "old" people with pesky underlying health conditions had families. Their lives mattered.
If we hadn't locked down, more younger people would have died, maybe not from covid itself, but from not having a bed in hospital when they are having a stroke, asthma attack, heart attack, a brain tumour that needs operating on... and so on and so on.

And can I also add that if I was old, frail and in my 80s I would rather die than see my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren locked in their homes, deprived of their schooling and all the fun in their lives to give me a few more weeks and months.

@dividedwefall

I love all the people coming on to defend this with 'do you not care about old people'

Straw men to defend the indefensible.

We are hearing that all those dying after the vaccine would have died anyway as they were so old and frail. So which is it people?

I haven't heard of "all those" people who are dying after being vaccinated. I've not actually heard of one. Do you have a source?

And?