Average age of coronavirus fatalities

[SlugsTrout]

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

That is all.

Where's the table showing the average age of people suffering with long Covid?

I believe the average for it is around 45 years of age. Mainly women. These are people that potentially now have a lifetime of suffering ahead of them.

@ImAlrightThanx the government is publishing it on their website from the yellow card data. It's also published on the Eudravigilence site.

I would like to see more stats and news on the ‘still alive but had Covid’ after effects. My DH is in the camp that as he/we are unlikely statistically to die then that’s ok and everything should carry on. I’m more worried at the potential of nasty long term effects after getting it - and what they could be, how we could manage (young family) than actual death. But mainstream media doesn’t really mention it much so he thinks I’m being dramatic as if it was that much of an issue it would be all over the news?

Be interested to know your point here OP. I hope its not what I think it is.

@zzzebra

Where's the table showing the average age of people suffering with long Covid?

I believe the average for it is around 45 years of age. Mainly women. These are people that potentially now have a lifetime of suffering ahead of them.

Why do you believe that then?

@dividedwefall

Sorry I don't understand? Believe what? That the average age of long Covid is 45?

That's only up until 2 October

The age of people dying since October is much lower.

Since it seems important to you, you might want to look into that.

[quote zzzebra]@dividedwefall

Sorry I don't understand? Believe what? That the average age of long Covid is 45? [/quote]
Yes, that. Why do you believe that?

Thats actually younger than I thought, mean is only 78 for men. That's quite young, someone who's 78 could easily have 20 years of life left these days

I would like to know your opinion Op. Do you think these people should be left to die? Should we refuse hospital admission to anyone over 80 because their life isn't important? What about chemo? Should people who are 78 not get chemo, or cancer surgery? Should all care for over 80s be palliative?

Its an interesting moral discussion

Come on @SlugsTrout what's your point here?

It is only much later that we will be able to take an objective look at the decisions that were made (and still are being made) and decide if they were the correct ones, but I'm sure when that happens it won't simply be the age of the people dying with or of COVID that will be taken into effect. Instead it should look at the effect of the pandemic on everyone, whether they even caught COVID or not.

It's too early and far too easy to claim that we have over-reacted in order to try and make sure elderly people have a few more years at the end of their lives, to the detriment of everybody else. At this point we simply don't know.

Are you trying to drum up hatred against the older generation? Is that it?

What does 'that is all' mean?

@Icenii

Are you trying to drum up hatred against the older generation? Is that it?

Another straw man!

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

That's only up until 2 October

The age of people dying since October is much lower.

Since it seems important to you, you might want to look into that.

Is that really true though? Because the stats I am looking at don't reflect that. Or is it another opinion dressed up as fact?

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

That's only up until 2 October

The age of people dying since October is much lower.

Since it seems important to you, you might want to look into that.

These are the figures until 1 January. They don't seem much different.

Median		Mean								
Involving COVID-19	Due to COVID-19	Involving COVID-19	Due to COVID-19							

People 82 83 80.5 80.7
Males 81 81 79.2 79.4
Females 84 84 82.2 82.4

Footnotes:

1. Figures include deaths of non-residents.
2. Based on date a death was registered rather than occurred.
3. All figures for 2020 are provisional.
4. The International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Edition (ICD-10) definitions are as follows: coronavirus (COVID-19) (U07.1 and U07.2).
5. Based on deaths registered between week ending 9 October 2020 and week ending 1 January 2021. Data for deaths registered prioir to this is available: www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12376averageageofdeathmedianandmeanofpersonswhosedeathwasduetocovid19orinvolvedcovid19bysexdeathsregistereduptoweekending2october2020englandandwales
6. An underlying cause of death of COVID-19 is referred to as "due to COVID-19". Deaths "involving COVID-19" includes deaths that had COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, whether as underlying cause or not.

Source: Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12773averageageofdeathmedianandmeanofpersonswhosedeathwasduetocovid19orinvolvedcovid19bysexdeathsregisteredinweekending9october2020toweekending1january2021englandandwales

Mathematically the median average means just as many people under 83 died as over it. So that could mean 20,20,20,83,99,99,99.

The mean average will have many outliers. It doesn't mean younger as in 70 or younger won't die. It could be 60, 80, 100 and the mean would be 80.

It also doesn't take into account treatment. How many younger people are alive because they have had medical care? How many more old people died in care homes without access to treatment?

How many people would have lived another 10, 15 years? Long enough to see their grandkids or great grandkids grow up?

Stupid post

OP appears to be an old fashioned plopper.

I don't get your point? Why does it matter if the average age is older? My Grandma is 87 this year and has beat cancer twice. I'll be damned if this takes her.

@dividedwefall

I believe it's from a study done by scientists at Kings College London.

And as I said 'potentially' life long effects, as we're currently unable to tell if the effects of long Covid will improve with time.

My point being that the OPs table alone can't sum up the effects of Covid. There are plenty of other stats beyond long Covid as well, impact on MH, cancer treatment, education, etc. But long Covid is a well documented one.

You might feel differently when you are actually in your 80s dividedwefall.You actually have no idea how you will feel then. Easy to make sweeping statements when you are not in the situation.

Setting aside for one moment that it's not just ok for people to die because they're getting on a but, it's not just about death.

The people most likely to suffer long term effects are women aged 40-60. So you know, a lot of the people here.

'That is all' makes it seem like you think this is a 'gotcha' moment but this information has hardly been hidden.

Well I guess the impact of mass diabetes in the young population won’t affect you...
www.google.com/amp/s/www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/news/new-worse-cases-coronavirus%3famp

Well this is looking like another thread where the OP chucks what they think is an Earth shatteringly profound hand grenade in and then buggers off never to be seen again.

If so, it is a bit ridiculous. That is all.