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Can this be true? Tons of people lying to get vaccine.

460 replies

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 21/03/2021 14:59

My mum has just told me that my dodgy cousin (about 30) has just had his vaccine with all of his builder mates by lying and saying they are ‘unpaid carers’ on the nhs website. She said no one bothered to check any of them.
Firstly, how bloody outrageous of them pulling the wool over the vaccine centres eyes and secondly, why isn’t their any check, however minor?
I know we all need to get done eventually but this has really pissed me off.

OP posts:
Hotair1234 · 22/03/2021 17:49

I work in a vaccine centre and no profession is a priority anymore.

Yes carers, paid and unpaid, were at the beginning - frontline etc - but that was the initial spare dose issue at the beginning.

It is done by date of birth only, no bagsying Lea and yes, without proof of age/nhs wageslip then yes would be turned away.

Can’t speak for other areas of the country but out county are getting them done pretty quickly by making sure everyone gets it in the right order. I know people lie and don’t get it. The quicker we can work through everyone due and not waste time trurnjng people away, the quicker everyone gets it legit.

But let’s face it, common sense was the first victim of this whole damn thing a looooong time ago or wouldn’t be a post every day

DavidsSchitt · 22/03/2021 17:54

"It is done by date of birth only, no bagsying Lea and yes, without proof of age/nhs wageslip then yes would be turned away."

Right. Well you're turning away people who are eligible to book via the NHS website then. Not ideal.

ShipOfTheseus · 22/03/2021 17:57

It is done by date of birth only, no bagsying Lea and yes, without proof of age/nhs wageslip then yes would be turned away.

What evidence do you need to prove age? I wasn’t asked for any proof when I had my vaccine last week. My neighbours weren’t turned away - they openly said they both got a slot just this weekend because they knew someone who put them on the list.

KOKOagainandagain · 22/03/2021 17:59

Vaccine aside I would absolutely guarantee that nobody would be jealous of me.

If you got a vaccine (that might only give you limited immunity for a limited time) would you swop lives with me? 24/7 care? £260 a month? Surely a vaccine is worth that?

munchkinman · 22/03/2021 18:09

I’ve even see people tell others to say they are unpaid carers on social media. Not on at all.

Localocal · 22/03/2021 18:14

I think it's possible to cheat the system in some areas, and doubtless there are people who do. But I don't think a lot of people are doing it. I don't know anyone who has, and as a volunteer vaccinator I have not jabbed anyone I would suspect of doing this.

If you personally know a lot of people who are doing this, perhaps you should think about how you choose your friends.

HenGab4 · 22/03/2021 18:16

Construction workers are getting them on specific sites but only from the ones that are left over after people have failed to attend their appointments. So rather than waste the vaccine the workers are being given them on a standby basis. This is happening in other places too but I’m not saying where so people can’t ring and complain.

KisstheTeapot14 · 22/03/2021 18:19

Yes that is taking the piss.

I think they should come and do some unpaid caring if they get caught. And the people with their helpful tips on FB - yes you too.

See how they like that - I can tell you (as I just finish hanging out the millionth load of washing from a child with continence issues), it is not easy.

Its so below the belt to take someone else's place who genuinely are carers 24/7 (paid or not as the case may be).

How did some people in society get so selfish?

Witchlight · 22/03/2021 18:20

The problem is that unpaid carers have generally not been recorded. Also the unofficial support systems “just coping” people have been stretched after a year of lock-downs.

Eg PIL were coping with weekly visits from us, food delivery, 3 sessions of cleaning and one of gardening a week. The are both over 90.
When cleaning had to stop, they struggled. We now have to visit 2-3 times a week to prepare food (throw out out of date stuff) clean and do laundry.
Are we their carers now?

Parents are over 80. DM is physically able but her memory has deteriorated significantly over the last year. DF is disabled and is 90% bed bound. He had a fall last year, but physio has been delayed, so now struggles to get into wheelchair. DM has lost control of house, but won’t accept help. We visit twice a week and try to help, but it often upsets DM. We arrange food deliveries and medication.
Are we their carers?

We were never registered as such and finances mean no allowance will be awarded. Corvid restrictions, isolation and illness progression has exacerbated the situations from watching over parents to actively doing most of the care. I’m sure this is a familiar story to many. We are not logged as carers and have already received our jabs, but I would not criticise anyone who tried to be vaccinated in such circumstances.

FunnyWonder · 22/03/2021 18:21

I'm in NI and got my first vaccine about a month ago, based on the fact that I am a unpaid carer for my mum. I was a bit stressed that I might be asked for proof, because I don't have any. I don't think there's a system in place here to register yourself as a carer with the GP. My mum's GP surgery is the same as mine and they know I deal with all her medications, appointments etc and they have me as her contact (she has Alzheimer's) but there's nothing official and, beyond being asked about my eligibility at the vaccination site, no proof was required. I did wonder if the system would be abused by some because of this.

Inthevirtualwaitingroom · 22/03/2021 18:24

dd had to take proof

BlackeyedSusan · 22/03/2021 18:26

Those that are willing to lie and abuse the system are probably the same ones willing to ignore the safety rules. Much better for all of us to have them vaccinated. They will be less likely to pass it onto the more rule abiding of the population.

BlackeyedSusan · 22/03/2021 18:29

I took proof but wasn't asked for it. (Photo of vaccination invitation) text from GP.

I also have photos on my phone of kids and my diagnoses.

devilish · 22/03/2021 18:41

Yup my friend and I have had a disagreement about this only today she registered her 21 yr old daughter as a non paid carer to her nan ( my friends mum ) and she got vaccinated at the weekend I told her my thoughts on it and she totally threw her toys out of her pram and said I was being out of order and I should be happy for her that they are all vaccinated ( and yes I know for a face that this person is not her nans carer ) I’m 39 and have worked every single day during the pandemic I work in engineering so am not a front line but by god it pisses me off that I have to wait while others take the absolute piss

ShipOfTheseus · 22/03/2021 18:42

Oh, I had my text invite. Maybe that was the proof. But they didn’t ask to see it.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/03/2021 18:52

When I had mine (and dh was the same) it was only by appointment via the GP. You couldn’t just turn up.
When it was your turn you gave your name at a desk and were given a printed sheet with your details, which you took to the booth to give to the vaccinator.
I haven’t heard of any centre where random people just turn up - not anywhere around here, anyway.

TheJerkStore · 22/03/2021 19:00

I haven’t heard of any centre where random people just turn up - not anywhere around here, anyway.

They're targeting areas where vaccination take up is quite low.
My DH got his on Saturday just by turning up - they were posting on local Facebook groups asking people to to just turn up or they'd go to waste.

Tuliptulip · 22/03/2021 19:03

My BIL was cock a hoop having had his this way on Sunday (London) - he hasn’t cared for anyone in his life. He was amazed when we were all horrified/completely unimpressed (including his DW), and has completely shut up, but we are all still Angry

Tuliptulip · 22/03/2021 19:03

It wasn’t a spare just to be clear - he booked on the NHS website and lied

KisstheTeapot14 · 22/03/2021 19:07

Yes, I had an invite/confirmation of booking texted to me.

Had to give name at entry point. Its a small town so the nurses probably know most people by name anyway.

Good point about the rule breakers getting vaccinated protecting people in general from their risky behaviour - though you can still have Covid more mildly/pass on Covid even when vaccinated. Sadly.

Anyway working our way towards the goal, whatever.

Tiggercee · 22/03/2021 19:11

I have done a fairly exhaustive search. I have found that there are stories of people in the USA doing this. But not in the UK. its supposed to be impossible as our system checks with Doctors and you can claim to have a job in the care sector without proof. But I will check more locally. One thing that has been apparent is that Young people may be offered it if they have had a procedure in the past. or been operated on or treatment for a childhood condition they may not have been aware of. Like Heart surgery for kids under 3. etc. this would put them in a clinically vulnerable group.

Oscarsdaddy · 22/03/2021 19:12

Sad state of affairs but you can’t blame people for wanting to be vaccinated

I hadn’t jab on Saturday, I’m 54 and when I booked it I didn’t have to prove anything as they had my NHS number

When I went to the vaccine centre I was asked if I was a carer, either voluntary or paid for anyone. I said no as that’s the truth but unsure what lying would have done

Today I see a note from the local NHS healthcare centre me in town urging people to come forward. They have 1500 vaccine appointments available this week across our area. Only 450 booked so far so why not open it up to anyone really?

MyHairNeedsASnip · 22/03/2021 19:19

Yep, sadly it is true. Not so 'D'H and his whole office staff booked themselves in as 'health care workers' (work that is very, very, very tenuously linked to health) and all got jabbed a couple of weeks ago. The argument in this house could be heard all over town and I'm still disgusted with him. The arrogance is breathtaking.

huggzy · 22/03/2021 19:24

I had my vaccine as I'm an unpaid carer. I had to be flagged as a carer on my GP's file and to do this I had to show my GP surgery proof that my son receives DLA.

It might have changed but when I last checked, you could only book online if you claim carers allowance. If you're a carer but don't claim carers allowance you have to wait to be contacted. So I can't work out how people can just pretend to be a carer? Unless perhaps their GP surgery aren't asking for proof?

TheJerkStore · 22/03/2021 19:26

I really can't get too worked up about this. People wanting to be vaccinated is a good thing! Too many are going to waste as it is .... I'd rather they were used.