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DareIask · 2021-03-17T16:51:38+00:00

Looks like Europe may have got their way

Pan2 · 17/03/2021 17:54

"Does anyone know why?

Because the EU are being utter twats about it."

utter bollocks.

Nuttagblz · 17/03/2021 17:57

It is clear what is going on. The UK is singed up to Covax and agreees with vaccine equity, the rule was that only 20% of the population in each county would be vaccinated so that other poorer nations could have vaccine equity. It is hardly fair that the UK should steam ahead and have near total adult population vaccinated which would give it an unfair advantage globally over other nations due to being able to get society open quicker.

Bill Gates was a huge donator and part of the plan was alway vaccine equity he talks about it all the time.

Oohshortbreadfinger · 17/03/2021 17:57

@Bluntness100 it is nonsense to say we all have a choice. I work out of the home in an area with 57% vaccine take up. I can't hide away and neither can teachers.

Pyewackect · 17/03/2021 17:57

Europe may have go their way on what ?. Being incompentent or just an utter shit show ?.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2021 17:58

utter bollocks.

Yeah, is that your truth?

WombatChocolate · 17/03/2021 17:58

The reason why it is very disappointing, is because there have been lots of reports of all over 40s likely to be offered it by Easter. The way things have been going, it looked like upper 40s might be able to book by the end of this week or early next week...ie mid March. And, lots of 40s are already being offered it by GP led services in areas which are ahead.

Now, that NHS letter referred to tells providers not to offer to under 50s until after April unless there are exceptional circumstances and essentially they are a Carer, CV or meet Group 6 criteria I’m some way.

So the earliest the 40s are now looking at is May....that’s pretty different to late March. That is why people are disappointed. Yes, government has never actually adjusted the date for all to have had their jab to sooner than end July, but the reality is that most over 40s have known it was likely to be very soon. It suddenly being changed and the fact Matt Hancock isn’t willing to say that, or cannot say that, but instead explains it away in terms of mopping up those in 1-9 who haven’t had it feels a bit dishonest. It isn’t technically, because they were careful not to over-promise and instead aimed to over-deliver. The over-delivering was looking so likely and now close....and when it was just a few days off for most 40s, it’s suddenly delayed as an offer by 6-7 weeks. That is why people are gutted.

Bluntness100 · 17/03/2021 17:59

[quote Oohshortbreadfinger]@Bluntness100 it is nonsense to say we all have a choice. I work out of the home in an area with 57% vaccine take up. I can't hide away and neither can teachers.[/quote]
You still have a choice. It might not be an easy one, but have it you do. If you’re that scared then quit work, keep the kids at home, hunker down

Or spend some time reading up on this and understanding this is still on schedule it’s just not ahead of schedule any more. And that nearly half of all adults will be vaccinated shortly.

Avondklok · 17/03/2021 17:59

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

Does anyone know why?

Because the EU are being utter twats about it.

They are sitting on vaccines they aren't using, they are rubbishing the AZ but they don't want anyone else to use it either, they fucked up their orders but now someone else had to mop up their mess.

Madness.

This is not what is happening

Aurorie11 · 17/03/2021 17:59

Gutted for my sister who's 50 in just under 6 months

Sansaplans · 17/03/2021 18:00

@Nuttagblz

It is clear what is going on. The UK is singed up to Covax and agreees with vaccine equity, the rule was that only 20% of the population in each county would be vaccinated so that other poorer nations could have vaccine equity. It is hardly fair that the UK should steam ahead and have near total adult population vaccinated which would give it an unfair advantage globally over other nations due to being able to get society open quicker.

Bill Gates was a huge donator and part of the plan was alway vaccine equity he talks about it all the time.

You'll probably find most people on here don't give a fuck that some counties have had zero doses by the me me me attitudes.

oakleaffy · 17/03/2021 18:00

This is bad news.
Was very lucky to have had one today, and they didn’t mention a shortage for second jab in a few weeks time.

nordica · 17/03/2021 18:01

I think two things have made it particularly upsetting...

The mixed messages. Just last week there were press articles about a huge increase in supply coming and how much ahead of schedule we were, all adults to be vaccinated by end of May etc. Clearly that's not the case...

And secondly the seeming randomness/postcode lottery. Social media, MN and all our own social circles are full of people in their 20s/30s/40s who've been offered a vaccine early (specifically people who themselves wonder why they've had the offer early - with no known pre-existing conditions other than perhaps something from 10 years ago that isn't on the official list). Just feels like some people have been lucky and others haven't...

BungleandGeorge · 17/03/2021 18:02

Wasn’t it always the case that countries were meant to pause after doing their vulnerable groups and allow others to catch up? We do need to go back and catch groups 1-9 before steaming ahead with the low risk groups too.
Is it morally ok for us to be vaccinating our low risk population when other countries haven’t done their most at risk? If it’s due to supplies I’m not sure that’s fair. If there are enough supplies and it’s limited by other factors such as organisation then I think it’s ok for our supplies to continue

OrangeBananaFish · 17/03/2021 18:02

@Orangeblossom1975

I don't really understand the panic- the over 50s and group 6 should still be vaccinated relatively soon which is the main thing. The risk to others is low.

Agree. Really dont understand the issue. I'm 42, have 3 DCs at 3 different schools. All get different buses. I go to work 5 days a week too. I'm well aware that if I was to catch it they it MAY be serious, but chances are it wont be and I'll be fine. Therefore I'm not worried at all. Just hope it doesn't effect lockdown etc

oakleaffy · 17/03/2021 18:03

I had Astro Zeneca one Europe doesn’t want.
The staff at vaccine centre said they all have had the identical one with no adverse effects.

Avondklok · 17/03/2021 18:04

I'm in Belgium and they plan to give the doses in the recommended time frame. So they allow stocks for that but yes the overall effect is that it's much slower. U.K. has taken a different path. There was always a risk that this might happen. I hope they have planned correctly for 2nd doses.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2021 18:04

This is not what is happening

What is happening then?

NeverForgetYourDreams · 17/03/2021 18:04

Phew booked mine yesterday when got text invite to do. Late 40s

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2021 18:05

My local vaccination centre had a "pre planned reduction in supply" about a month ago. When the supply came through they extended hours/days and caught up.

There was always going to be a bump whilst they adjust for 2nd doses happening alongside 1st doses.

DH has just turned 50 and I'm pretty desperate for him to get the vaccine ASAP.

Avondklok · 17/03/2021 18:05

It's not the fault of the fecking EU.

LoudestCat14 · 17/03/2021 18:06

Bluntness100 People aren't catastrophising at all, they're voicing their upset. It's not for you to dictate how people react.

duffeldaisy · 17/03/2021 18:06

"You still have a choice. It might not be an easy one, but have it you do. If you’re that scared then quit work, keep the kids at home, hunker down"

You know that's not 'a difficult' choice for most people, it's an impossible one.
For people who have illnesses not covered by the official CV list, or for teaching staff, or people working in frontline jobs not yet offered the jab, they probably can't afford to give up work, and then get fined/all the problems that come with taking their children out of school.
They're allowed to vent.

I'm not ill, beyond having anxiety and being in the upper end of the 40s, but know people who are and I'm worried for them. It's not like it's death or completely fine, there's quite a high rate of long Covid as a risk too.

Fine, we need to share out the vaccine with other countries, otherwise that's not good for anyone long-term, but we need new plans on easing lockdown, and more safety in schools if the plan is to have an extra month before starting on the people who are at the ages most likely to be parents.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/03/2021 18:07

@Figrollface

Great news for the EU, they are correct to ensue they also get fair access to supply after all the money they invested.

I’ve read on other threads the entirety of the EU has spent the same on vaccines as just the U.K. The U.K. bankrolled the AZ vaccine.

I was pro remain but this is all manners of wrong.

HairyFloppins · 17/03/2021 18:07

A bit gutted for 49 year old DH really. He was hoping to get it done in a few weeks. He was hospitalised with Covid in December and from reading here it looks like you can get covid over and over again.

Hopefully it won't cause too big of a delay.

Avondklok · 17/03/2021 18:08

Why are people blaming EU for this? It's nothing to do with EU.