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Deflated after tonights press conference

259 replies

TFInearlyspring · 26/02/2021 20:12

Hi,

Was starting to feel a bit more positive - a bit lighter, but it sounds as though people are already behaving like we're out of lockdown, according to latest hotspot data.

I felt a difference earlier today when walking the dogs. I noticed there were bigger groups together, likely not the same household. I haven't seen this in such bulk for months.

Please someone tell me this is just a blip.

OP posts:
LST · 26/02/2021 21:53

Last summer proved outdoor mixing was not a risk factor.

IcedPurple · 26/02/2021 21:53

It will be my business if one of those parents has the virus, passed it on to others today and I catch it when my son goes back next week.

Since they were outside, the risk of them transmitting the virus was very low. You have zero control over them in any case so tut-tutting about children playing outdoors (!) might make you feel good but that's about it.

Mother40 · 26/02/2021 21:54

If outdoor mixing was not a risk factor, then there would.have been no.rules about only meeting 1 person or the rule of 6 etc.

BlackBrowedAlbatross · 26/02/2021 21:56

People outside enjoying themselves..whatever next!!!!!

Not so much mixing outside, but what comes next after opening up too early and too quickly tends to be another lockdown. Then comes the govt blaming it on non-compliance or suggesting it was completely unforeseeable. Drives me nuts.

As do comments about people being doom mongers and lockdown lovers. It's because I don't want another lockdown that I would prefer them to be more cautious.

Level32 · 26/02/2021 21:56

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PracticingPerson · 26/02/2021 21:56

@Munkeenut

I went for my weekly shop today and the place was swarming with elderly, you can tell they feel free to go out now they've had the vaccine. It was like a zombie apocalypse of slow moving 70+ year olds blocking every aisle. I'm.not a massive lockdown fan but I've done and am doing whats being asked of me, to protect others. Shame they couldn't return the favour.
I have not witnessed this as I live in a very young part of town but I have had two friends tell me exactly this in the last two days - that they feel many newly vaccinated older people are now out and about.

However the whole point was they could start to do what non-shielding people can do - so as long as they are following basic covid rules then they are doing nothing amiss.

BlackeyedSusan · 26/02/2021 21:57

there were more cars on the roads this week. but not really seen an increase in groups of people about.

I think they are having to warn people to not mix yet so to keep the numbers of those mixing down below a certain level.

the longer we go on though, the more likely the blatent rule breakers have had covid and gained some immunity. they will have been mixing all along.

LolaSmiles · 26/02/2021 21:57

Why is it that whenever anyone is realistic they get accused of 'enjoying lockdown and wanting hospital deaths'? It's ridiculous, of course no one enjoys lockdown and restrictions.

Being cautious and recognising the government is repeating mistakes and giving out false hope is sensible. It's precisely because people care about reducing hospital deaths that we aren't planning for this magical summer we're being told is possible.
This.
I can't stand Boris, but I supported him outlining a roadmap and saying that it will be reviewed and isn't automatic.
It goes without saying that if idiots start mixing lots then the restrictions last longer.

If anything the people who don't want idiots screwing up the progress we are making are the ones who dislike lockdown because we are the ones who want to get out of the restrictions instead of having endless on/off measures because it was totes important to have everyone round for a BBQ.

EvieBoo2 · 26/02/2021 21:58

@IcedPurple

It will be my business if one of those parents has the virus, passed it on to others today and I catch it when my son goes back next week.

Since they were outside, the risk of them transmitting the virus was very low. You have zero control over them in any case so tut-tutting about children playing outdoors (!) might make you feel good but that's about it.

I don't know why you think I tut-tutted. I didn't feel good either. I thought this was a thread about people who seem to think lockdown is already over, so I joined in and gave my example. I can't believe some of the horrible replies to my post. Of course I want my child to go to the park too, but we should all be following the rules. Lockdown isn't over yet. You might not like that ( neither do I) but it is a fact.
IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 26/02/2021 21:58

@Mother40

If outdoor mixing was not a risk factor, then there would.have been no.rules about only meeting 1 person or the rule of 6 etc.
Exactly. There wouldn’t be any need for restrictions if it couldn’t be caught outdoors.

I expected nothing less when the plan was announced and people were being vaccinated. Many were already breaking the rules and when schools go back even more will mix outside of school as see no reason not too.

Brunt0n · 26/02/2021 22:00

If we can’t go for a walk outside with mates after 19 million of the oldest and most vulnerable are vaccinated then when the hell can we?

I’ve followed every rule but god, a line has to be drawn!

namechange63524 · 26/02/2021 22:01

There will be those that say they'll be in a classroom in a week. However, some people will also be mixing as all kids back in a week means it is safer now to those people than waiting until government says it is safer (when cases will be higher than they are now and kids/families have been massively exposed due to schools opening all at once). There will be others that never gave a shit like the kid who is going to a birthday party tomorrow (mentioned on class zoom).

IcedPurple · 26/02/2021 22:01

I don't know why you think I tut-tutted

Well, your "What is wrong with people?" in response to the horrible sight of "Parents with children, the children playing together, the parents sitting together chatting" did kind of sound like it.

BarbaraofKent · 26/02/2021 22:06

l swear there are posters on MN actively desperate for hospitalisation and deaths to rise so they can say "you see - its because of all those families mixing in the park, if only they'd stayed at home like they were told

Yes!

And I would say that on a day like today, getting outside into the sunshine and fresh air with your kids is much, much healthier than locking yourself in your home, working yourself into a frenzy about 'staying safe'.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 26/02/2021 22:08

A walk in the park is a pleasure to do,
When a visit to one is long overdue,
To take the dogs too, is really great,
For the exercise is just first rate.

The peacefulness can be very strange,
For quietness is such a change
From all the traffic rushing by,
The decibels get really high.

We have to live with constant noise,
That often takes away the joys
And contentment, that a walk can give us.
We've got to count is as a real plus.

There's a lake where you can hire a boat,
And two or more can go afloat,
And meander, with the water calm,
With oars a dipping, what sheer balm.

At the end of the lake, the ducks you'll meet,
And geese and swans, with their webbed feet,
All gather hoping to be fed,
With slivers of cake and slices of bread.

There are tennis courts and a golf course too,
You can do most anything you want to do,
For children, roundabouts and swings,
Seesaws, slides, gosh, there's lots of things.

A small cafe where you can sit,
And enjoy a coffee and rest for a bit,
And watch the birds that gather round,
Robins and bluetits, ready to scrounge.

For any titbits that you might drop,
They're very brave, and will sit atop,
The railings right next to your chair,
As long as with them, your fare you share.

The flowers are a joy to view,
The colours bright with the morning dew,
Red, yellow, purple, pink and peach,
Lifting their heads the sun to reach.

A walk in the park takes away the strain,
Of working, which we have to go back to again,
But as long as we take just a little time out
To relax, that to me is what life's all about.

© Ernestine Northover

LST · 26/02/2021 22:08

@Mother40

If outdoor mixing was not a risk factor, then there would.have been no.rules about only meeting 1 person or the rule of 6 etc.
Did you see the beaches? Parks? Sports events? Football? Outdoor dining? Pretty sure there were more than 6 people about in those cases. We went camping almost every week and the campsite had loads of kids running around together.
Stellaris22 · 26/02/2021 22:09

That is a grossly unfair comment to say people are wishing for deaths. Of course no one wants that!

Being realistic and seeing the same mistakes happening doesn't mean people are going to be happy about deaths and continued lockdowns.

BarbaraofKent · 26/02/2021 22:10

Not so much mixing outside, but what comes next after opening up too early and too quickly tends to be another lockdown.

What do you mean by 'too early and too quickly'? The government is having to tread a very fine line with lockdowns and opening back up in order to ensure that our economy and people's livelihoods are not completely obliterated. I think they fucked up Christmas and the schools thing in Jan, but it was always inevitable that there was going to be another peak in winter, a time when death from disease and infection has always been much worse in the UK anyway.

We couldn't lockdown the country since last March, as much as people on here would have loved it, because there would be nothing left when we opened back up.

Toilenstripes · 26/02/2021 22:12

Government: end of lockdown might be in July
England: woohoo, end of lockdown is now

Ohnomoreno · 26/02/2021 22:13

I've seen no difference. Also, I'm minding my own business.

EvieBoo2 · 26/02/2021 22:13

@IcedPurple

I don't know why you think I tut-tutted

Well, your "What is wrong with people?" in response to the horrible sight of "Parents with children, the children playing together, the parents sitting together chatting" did kind of sound like it.

I didn't mean it to come across like that. I seem to have wound you up in some way and I didn't mean to. I meant what is wrong with people in that they think it's ok to mix in large groups when it's fairly obvious we're not allowed to do that yet? Boris was very clear in explaining the steps out of this. I thought so anyway.
ColdBrightClearMorning · 26/02/2021 22:13

Taking your child to the park to exercise isn’t against the rules. The parks near us have been left unlocked this lockdown (thank fuck, it was draconian last time).

ColdBrightClearMorning · 26/02/2021 22:14

Should have tagged @EvieBoo2 there ^

IcedPurple · 26/02/2021 22:15

I meant what is wrong with people in that they think it's ok to mix in large groups when it's fairly obvious we're not allowed to do that yet?

Right. So you disaproved of children playing together and their parents chatting. In other words you were tut-tutting at them. Not that they care.

Moondust001 · 26/02/2021 22:16

No one is enjoying lockdown, this is such a childish remark. Your post contains many exagerrated comparisons - Ebola, asteroids, intelligent apes...There is risk of a variant that the vaccine is not effective against. Hopefully that won't happen. There is no predicting whether any variant that comes along will be better, or worse. This is not news.

No it isn't childish to say that some people are enjoying lockdown too much. There is far too much jubilation every time some people can proclaim "told you so" despite what they told people being totally wrong; or poke their nose into other peoples business and, if they are really lucky, they can rat them out.

Yes there is a risk of a variant that the vaccines aren't effective against. It hasn't happened. So why are people running around trying to wind up the hysteria that it might happen? Anything might happen. The fact remains that something is going to be responsible for the death of every human being at some point in time. If you don't manage to get any life in before that time, what the hell is the point?

There are plenty of doomsayers on these boards who demonstrate on a daily basis that if it were not for lockdown then they would have nothing in their lives. If they weren't busy minding everyone else's business, what on earth would they do?

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