If they open up schools all at once, I'm done with every other precaution

[BettyBoomerang]

If the 'leak' is true and they are stupid enough to open up all schools to all kids at the same time (thus leading to uncontrolled transmission of variants and increased risk of vaccine escape, further lockdowns and a redo of the vaccination programme) then I'm done with any kind of compliance.

I'm not staying at home like a fucking stupid sitting duck, waiting for my kids to come home with Covid anymore. The kids can see their friends, have sleepovers and we'll go out and about and visit friends and relatives and do the maximum we can.

You can pile in and call me selfish or whatever - I genuinely don't care anymore. I'm not putting my life on hold just for the government to fuck the recovery up again. I'm the most compliant of pretty much everyone I know but this is it for me, and many others I suspect (most of whom are already doing way more than me). If it's safe for my kids to go to school, then everything is safe.

May, for a group 6 vaccination? When did they tell you that? Do they watch the news?

Hold on, wait, you're not one of those only two doses counts as a vaccination doomsters are you?

Having just watched the live national address I sense much hope for optimism and in particular rate Professor Chris Whitty on his assured clear, reasoned and measured pragmatic approach. However I understand these are initial steps and dependent on the remaining expected headroom for gradual unlocking of society.

I do hope that children are not "weaponised" or used to test the headroom but on balance with other combined health risk mitigation measures welcome a return to school for those not socially economically disadvantaged or otherwise vulnerable enough to have been at school over past months daily to return to in person schooling too. Let's ensure this is not just 2020 open and close repeat cycles again as this must be measured, balanced and above all sustainable long term.

[quote phlebasconsidered]@Thomasina2021 I am group 6 and my GO told me May for a vaccination. And i'm in class with a bubble of 25 and expecting 10 more in 2 weeks. So what you are saying is not true for everyone in my area, and others.[/quote]
Group 6 are being done now?

Group 6 are being done now?

Yes it is. All adults over 50 should have their first dose by end of April.

Your GP is, not sure how that happened, misinformed.

Group 6 are being done where YOU are. Where I am they are still doing the very elderly and CEV. My mum is only just getting hers as a dementia sufferer this week. Not every area is the same. Is that so very hard to grasp?

Where do you live Phlebasconsidered?

@phlebasconsidered

Group 6 are being done where YOU are. Where I am they are still doing the very elderly and CEV. My mum is only just getting hers as a dementia sufferer this week. Not every area is the same. Is that so very hard to grasp?

Where the heck are you? That's shocking. I'm group 6 and getting mine Saturday

On the rural borders of 2 eastern counties. My sister in another county has had hers as a group 6. My dad in Bedfordshire had his ages ago. Not all areas are the same.

@FourTeaFallOut

Where do you live Phlebasconsidered?

France😂

My village is organising lifts for the elderly without cars to get theirs at the nearest hub. Which is fricking miles away. I've taken time off work to take mum on Thursday. That is a weight off my mind at least as I was terribly anxious about returning to a full class. She lives with me and my kids. It's a big enough worry with my bubble.

Is your DM in a care home with a recent outbreak? Or has she recently had covid herself?

Well I'm glad she's getting it now but that must be very frustrating.

It was/is!
It seems so variable and random, a real postcode lottery. Certainly better in urban areas- my friends in cities that need it have all been done. Weirdly my rural area has a higher rate than them- lots of factory/ farm workers and very few white collar. All seems a balls-up to me.

Yes but it's actions like this from parents that make me fear teaching 6 year olds knowing their parents don't care about how their mixing puts me at risk.

Pretty sure the whole point is that if we don't do the other stuff, the risk of kids contracting Covid at school is low 🙄 If upholstery crack on and do what you like then opening schools again will go wrong and we won't come out if this as per the plan.

So behave and don't mess it up for everyone else ffs.

@donewithitalltodayandxmas

So now you have teachers moaning that they will wear ppe , yet many were calling for it Loads of people have numerous people in all day whilst having ppe My dh goes into about 8 peoples house a day , who have various amounts in , he wears a mask but they don't so lots have been dealing with this and hopefully most older teachers or cev will have a vaccine

Exactly @donewithitalltodayandxmas so many other public serving people are just getting on with their jobs.

I’m sick of reading the news and seeing something every other day. Teachers unions call for schools to be closed. Teachers unions complain about lack of notice that school were closing. Teachers unions complain that there are too many keyworker kids in school. Teachers unions complain not enough key workers kids are being given school places. Teachers unions don’t want to teach live. Teachers unions think we should stay with online learning. We want PPE. No we don’t.
And on and on and on.

It’s a disgrace and a fucking PR disaster. Everyone I know is sick and tired of it and have run out of sympathy for teachers. (Which is a shame, obviously, as we all know that the majority are ace.)

I’ve not seen anything similar from unions representing public transport workers, dr’s, social workers, nurses, supermarket staff, care workers etc etc. They have all approached it with a “can do” attitude.

a fucking PR disaster

They seem oblivious to this, which is a bit bizarre.

Adventure

Totally agree

I’m a teacher and thoroughly ashamed of some of my colleagues and the union

phlebasconsidered

Group 6 are being done where YOU are. Where I am they are still doing the very elderly and CEV. My mum is only just getting hers as a dementia sufferer this week. Not every area is the same. Is that so very hard to grasp?”

No, not hard at all. Which is why if she has not yet been jabbed, she is entitled to book through the portal online without delay right now. You can do it for her.

No need to be rude. 🤷‍♀️

@TheKeatingFive only on mumsnet I think! Where there appears to be an army of teachers to back each other up.

Most of my teacher friends are seriously considering leaving the profession because they are so embarrassed about this shit show.
All the bleating just drowns out the reasonable voices who want to find a way to make it work.

I agree absolute PR disaster which is a massive shame for the majority of teachers who doing good work.

only on mumsnet I think! Where there appears to be an army of teachers to back each other up

True.

@TheKeatingFive

only on mumsnet I think! Where there appears to be an army of teachers to back each other up

True.

'Appears' is the operative word here though. Some of the most prolific, frankly rude and misinformed posters I see hijacking all threads that mention schools are so far removed from any teacher I've ever encountered, in my life, that if they're real teachers I'll eat me hat.

only on mumsnet I think! Where there appears to be an army of teachers to back each other up
On here, on other platforms, and offline I see lots of dedicated teachers who want their students in school, in a way that has appropriate measures, with a plan from the government that has a clear strategy.

What I see more on Mumsnet are non-teachers making endless claims about teachers that are goady and inflammatory (with some posters thinking that repeating the same thing dozens of times after being explicitly told that's not the case somehow makes their lives true). Eg. 'Teachers think they are special / teachers don't want to go to work / teachers are closing schools / teachers hate anyone who wants their child to go to school'.

Then when the same few claims are challenged by teachers, the same old replies happen 'see see the teachers think they are hard done to... why are there threads with teachers moaning... they think they are so special'

Then we have threads like this one where some posters are genuinely arguing they will ignore the rules because schools are opening. It's almost like they want to create further disruption to children's education, whilst still finding a way to blame teachers if bubbles have to isolate.