So, what are you going to do?

[LaMarschallin]

To the people who are saying they won't stand this any longer:

What exactly do you plan to do?

March on the streets?

Run out of your house and hug your family?

Not wear masks?

Because you can't go to the cinema, theatre, festivals, shops, libraries, cafes, pubs, send your children to school, see beauticians etc without the government's say so.

I'm just interested to know what the alternative is to trying to keep the infection rate down is.

@LaMarschallin

I didn't phrase this well.

I do understand the need to see friends and family (I want to see mine).

What I mean is: once you've seen and hugged them and had a chat...

That may be all you can do for a long time if more and more things are shut down.

This is all I want

Everything else can wait

@rosielemonade. Is this a joke?

I hope people do what they need to do to get through this. For me that will primarily be seeing my siblings in person so we can discuss our terminally ill mother, play dates for the kids and maybe picnics in the park with friends.

I think if the government sees that people are doing these kinds of things and that public opinion has moved on from a lockdown mentality it would be ridiculous of them not to open up education, shops etc. It’s understandable if theatres, large scale sporting events stay closed for longer though.

The only justifiable reason for a lockdown is a strong imminent threat to the NHS and its ability to deliver healthcare. As soon as people show through their actions that we’re not all cowering in our houses demanding a zero Covid policy hopefully things will start to change.

This is some sealioning bullshit if ever I’ve seen it

@ChocOrange1

Household mixing on a small scale will have a tiny effect, compared to hospitals, large events, travel, care homes etc.

I actually dont care about the death rates. If the death rates go up a bit but it means I can see my family, I dont care.

You do realise that the death rate is based on actual people dying, not a random statistic? How are your family exempt from death? Don’t answer me. I don’t care.

Considering I've not seen my partner since June 2019, when I do see him (we're both in our 50s, I've already had my first jab and my partner had covid over xmas so we do both have some degree of protection), well definitely be doing a damn sight more than just hugging!

@Harmonypuss

Considering I've not seen my partner since June 2019, when I do see him (we're both in our 50s, I've already had my first jab and my partner had covid over xmas so we do both have some degree of protection), well definitely be doing a damn sight more than just hugging!

😁🎉

@rosielemonade your post instantly gave me a lump in my throat I'm so so sorry you feel like this

@ marieantoinehairnet

“They're now debating whether we should be able to take our children to the park, or whether our own gardens should do. If we have one of course. Honestly, it's control freakery of the highest level, about time it stopped.”

Seriously? Where did you see this. I have a toddler and no garden. She’s not in nursery, taking her to the park is all we live for. If they ban the parks I’d honestly riot. Something I would have never dreamed of doing before.

Seriously imprisoning small children in flats for months on end is child abuse.

And has anyone seen the headline today about some rules lasting indefinitely? Are they fucking joking?? Why are people standing for this!!!?

“You do realise that the death rate is based on actual people dying, not a random statistic? How are your family exempt from death? Don’t answer me. I don’t care.”

Death rate is based on people dying who also had covid in the last 28 days. Doesn’t automatically mean they died because of covid. Some may have unfortunately died anyway.

@Someonetookmyname

@ marieantoinehairnet

“They're now debating whether we should be able to take our children to the park, or whether our own gardens should do. If we have one of course. Honestly, it's control freakery of the highest level, about time it stopped.”

Seriously? Where did you see this. I have a toddler and no garden. She’s not in nursery, taking her to the park is all we live for. If they ban the parks I’d honestly riot. Something I would have never dreamed of doing before.

Seriously imprisoning small children in flats for months on end is child abuse.

And has anyone seen the headline today about some rules lasting indefinitely? Are they fucking joking?? Why are people standing for this!!!?

We won’t ☺️

@delightfuldaisy19

"I can cope for now, but its breaking my heart seeing my kids suffer."

This pretty much sums up where I am as well.

Shops, restaurants etc are in many cases owned and run by individuals. So I don't entirely understand the 'but I won't have anywhere to go' argument. Did you see the video footage of the cafe with 100 people inside in Manchester?! The police cracked down pretty fast and hard but if enough small business owners opened up, that wouldn't be possible.

I think it's quite likely that the only way this will end is by small acts of sedition, the police turning a blind eye, and the government (who only do what they think the majority of their voters want) deciding we don't want lockdown after all.

In my case, after dealing with a number of very distressing student mental health problems this week, including an attempted suicide, all by Zoom and phone, I will be going back to in person teaching next term. I think it's likely that it will be allowed anyway. But if not I can't imagine anyone minding. The students are absolutely desperate for some human contact and real teaching.

@Someonetookmyname I've got a toddler and no garden too, my sympathies! Well it's a slab of concrete not really suitable for a child to play in. We keep trying to have it renovated, grass down etc but work keeps getting delayed yes you guessed it due to bloody Covid!

My child has been to the park so many times now that he doesn't even like it there anymore and asks to go home, it's so sad. It's hard to think of how to occupy him each day but we're doing our best. Just can't wait for all this to be over.

My son and his gf haven't seen each other since the beginning of January but have agreed that from Easter onwards, when all the most vulnerable groups have been vaccinated, they will see each other again. That would be their version of 'being done with it', not rioting on the streets. They think that more than three months apart from your long term partner is too long (not to mention all the periods apart last year.)

I do wonder though how long it would take people to riot in the streets if lockdown just went on and on...I read an interesting thread on here a few weeks ago about just that and I couldn't believe how many people were saying they would follow the rules indefinitely if the government asked us to!

I just want a cuddle, my cat is fed up of me man handing her. As soon as I've had vaccine I'm having one. And when this is all over I'm snogging a stranger. Until then it's the new normal. I love my family too much to risk it.

AMidsummerNight ..... I totally agree that 3 months apart from your significant other is too long but 3 months is approx 90 days, my partner and I have been apart for work and health reasons as well as covid for 595 days and counting - that is way beyond too long!!!

If your so desperate to risk it, have a test first

All this fuss over a virus that most people will recover from , yet people still drink , smoke, sunbathe and overeat as if cancer , diabetes and heart disease dont exist !
Enough is enough now , people always have the choice to stay in isolation if they wish to .

Bloody hard to live in isolation ain't it? Food you know , the little things

I pity the thousands who are living in pain , or slowly dying, because the resources are not available to treat them

‘The new normal’ can fuck right off.

Im sorry about your dad. I hope the below helps x

www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home?utm_source=8f43e68a-5e0b-44b9-a5db-9e5b5a83d680&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=daily#when-you-can-leave-home

Compassionate visits

You may also leave home to visit someone who is dying or someone in a care home (if permitted undercare home guidance), hospice, or hospital, or to accompany them to a medical appointment.

@Someonetookmyname

“You do realise that the death rate is based on actual people dying, not a random statistic? How are your family exempt from death? Don’t answer me. I don’t care.”

Death rate is based on people dying who also had covid in the last 28 days. Doesn’t automatically mean they died because of covid. Some may have unfortunately died anyway.

@Someonetookmyname yes, I completely understand the death rate - it was the callous disregard “I don’t care”, & apparent delusion that death must happen to other families.

I just find this attitude staggering. These type of people would be shouting holy hell if their loved one couldn’t get the care they need in a packed hospital.

Was it this thread or another one where somebody said that, without lockdown, it was predicted that covid would have led to 1.5 million UK deaths?

With a case fatality rate of what, around 1.5%. And a population of 67 million, ish?

So, impossible then, and completely untrue.

@Someonetookmyname

@ marieantoinehairnet

“They're now debating whether we should be able to take our children to the park, or whether our own gardens should do. If we have one of course. Honestly, it's control freakery of the highest level, about time it stopped.”

Seriously? Where did you see this. I have a toddler and no garden. She’s not in nursery, taking her to the park is all we live for. If they ban the parks I’d honestly riot. Something I would have never dreamed of doing before.

Seriously imprisoning small children in flats for months on end is child abuse.

And has anyone seen the headline today about some rules lasting indefinitely? Are they fucking joking?? Why are people standing for this!!!?

The beeb yesterday am, Starmer was arguing in parliament over it, Hancock was doing commentary. I suspect it was the media shit stirring though