Regret having vaccine

[Zem74]

Had my vaccine last week, govt classes me as CEV, consultant however said no need to shield as moderate risk, thought I’d be put in group 6 for vaccine rollout.
Got put in with group 4 and was unsure whether to have it or not, but after persuasion from family I did, now I feel full of regret like I’ve made a terrible mistake
I’ll get shot down on here for saying this, but I’ve since read things on social media and the internet that’s making me really panic about how safe this vaccine is/ whether it’s part of a sinister plan etc and I feel so scared that I’ve voluntarily just got myself jabbed with it without thinking it through enough
I’m a mother to young children and these worries are keeping me awake at night since

ones that have gone through the regulated development process

The covid vaccines that are in use now have gone through the process, just exceptionally efficiently.

Note that some of the attempts in other countries have failed at various stages and that effort is down the drain. They're proof that scientists and pharmaceutical companies are doing things properly, if you think about it.

I'd love to know what you think the vaccine will do to you.

@Hubblebubble75

None of you have any facts or are scientists. Neither am I . I don’t pretend to know it all but I’m also not blindly going into something like a robot. Don’t you think it’s odd that the government won’t pay out or rather has let the producers of the vaccine off having to pay out for a long term illness associated with the vaccine ? Not exactly instilling confidence that .

It's perfectly clear you're not a scientist & don't have any facts.

Yes you're entitled to your opinion, but would you stop presenting your opinions as facts.

& better still do some research before posting things to scare people - the 'pay outs' & guarantees have been fully explained if you care to look into it 🙄

I would be more worried about your mental health, read a book and have a glass of wine and relax.

For anyone interested in how the vaccines have been developed, this is a good article:

www.nature.com/articles/s41392-020-00352-y

On the link you can click on the the pdf option and download the full review (16 pages). As it is a science article it references and links to all the previous studies involved as well as giving history about the types of vaccines.

@HelloThereMeHearties tell me where I have blamed others for scaring me, nothing of the sort. I don’t get what you gain from your comment

[quote Hubblebubble75]@InterfectoremVulpes sorry and you do? Why are you more qualified then me ? If we can get a scientist on here I’ll have a listen[/quote]
Well then why aren't you listening to the ones already posting on the internet & who are on the Tv. Which one would you actually listen to?

If you genuinely have concerns then ask questions instead of spouting nonsense as fact.

[quote Zem74]@HelloThereMeHearties tell me where I have blamed others for scaring me, nothing of the sort. I don’t get what you gain from your comment[/quote]
Step away now @Zem74

You have had reassurances. You don't need to be wound up by people responding to the daftness of other posters.

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'Google scholar' (free - just search for it) is really good for searching for articles, experiments and reviews of studies.

Most studies have free pdf options listed on the right hand side of the search.

Google scholar also lists each time that study has been cited by another article, so you can follow the chain of research.

Most studies/experiments will have an 'abstract' at the start - this is a useful summary. Then you can scroll down to the results and conclusion for an overview. Good studies will discuss their limitations and how future experiments can be improved.

Sorry, that's a bit basic, but it might be interesting to some people who haven't studied science recently or know that so many scientific articles are available on the internet for anyone to read for free.

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants I explicitly said I’m not a scientist and don’t know it all If you actually read what you quoted - equally I don’t think everyone on here knows it all - reading ‘facts’ in newspapers.
Some commenters have been very interesting and intelligent and pointed me to sources to read , which are hopefully factual ( can’t really 100% have faith in any source ) I’ll definitely have a read of those this week.
I don’t understand the lynch mob mentality of some people on here when you express doubt ( that yes - rather a lot of people seem to have ) would you rather we live in doubt - rather than see the light. Mentality like this just pushes people underground and won’t help get more people vaccinated

@TravellingTilbury

'Google scholar' (free - just search for it) is really good for searching for articles, experiments and reviews of studies.

Most studies have free pdf options listed on the right hand side of the search.

Google scholar also lists each time that study has been cited by another article, so you can follow the chain of research.

Most studies/experiments will have an 'abstract' at the start - this is a useful summary. Then you can scroll down to the results and conclusion for an overview. Good studies will discuss their limitations and how future experiments can be improved.

Sorry, that's a bit basic, but it might be interesting to some people who haven't studied science recently or know that so many scientific articles are available on the internet for anyone to read for free.

Thanks will take a look

I think I may have to hide the CV forum soon and that's not because I'm anxious or vulnerable. These threads just draw out the people who seem invested in putting others off getting the vaccine. Maybe they are conspiracy theorists or anti vaxxers or ill informed or whatever, but giving them a safe space is making mn no better than fb or other social media that I avoid. In the midst of a pandemic some of the posts are highly dangerous and irresponsible.

I know, I know - civil liberties, freedom of choice, blah, blah' blah, but can't we just get through this pandemic with as few people dead or ill as possible. Please.

Most studies have free pdf options listed on the right hand side of the search.

My understanding is that the journals are making everything related to covid research free access. Another of the unprecedented cooperative responses to the virus.

@Duggeehugs82

Bow do we honestly know anyone is who they say or claim to be even on here? Its shouldn't be automatic,

We know what you are, on thread after thread after thread 💩 🥄

Hubblebubble75

But there are scientists on here, they've tried to help you understand. I must admit I do despair at how suspicious some people can be of medicine and science I really do.

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I may have to set aside the weekend

Hopefully there'll be a thread here to discuss them sensibly and then a bullet point round up of the findings!!

Such sweet optimism.

Long gone are those days...sadly

However, most of the papers you'll find via Google scholar are likely to be largely incomprehensible to most people - they're written by experts, for experts. But you may be able to glean something from them, and at least an inkling of the amount of detail and thought and experiment behind vaccines and other treatments.

@Zem74 If you were my DD, I would make sure you left your phone and any other devices in the kitchen at night - and to charge - and to have a good book and light to hand if you wake up during the night with anxiety. A good radio with soft music is a great idea too.
It would be awful if people with genuine concern felt they couldn't reach out for support - that is what MN should be, after all?

And what does that mean witches, i am genuinely concerned about how the world gets their information and more people should also be , im not what ur trying to say

Maybe they are conspiracy theorists or anti vaxxers or ill informed or whatever, but giving them a safe space is making mn no better than fb or other social media that I avoid.

It's not a 'safe space' for them, it's a space where they're liable to receive robust rebuttals from sensible people including quite a lot of scientists.

People like you do so much damage. Stop reading crap on the internet if you haven't got the ability to work out that it's crap!

You need to get some help with the anxiety op. Lots of people have anxiety. We learn how to manage it so we make good decisions.

@ErrolTheDragon

Most studies have free pdf options listed on the right hand side of the search.

My understanding is that the journals are making everything related to covid research free access. Another of the unprecedented cooperative responses to the virus.

Yes, my point was if you just go to an article on google scholar it doesn't always present the full article, whereas if you go to the listing, you'll usually find a full pdf link on the right side of the search results.

Agree - it is great that there is full public access to articles now. Hope it continues!

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Over 133 million people have had a covid vaccine. If it were causing death or anything else really horrible there would be no way to hide it.

Some people will die after having a vaccine - that does not mean the vaccine caused the death of course. That is what the trials are for - they look carefully into any death to determine what the cause was.

The risks of covid are greater to almost everyone than the risks of the vaccine. With those very allergic to the ingredients among those for whom the vaccine may post a real significant risk. Pregnant women are now having the vaccine because the balance of risk is clearly in favour in many cases.

You have to compare the risk of the disease vs the risk of the vaccine (which is tiny). Not just in isolation. The risk of catching covid in the UK is high, it's not insignificant, the risk of being in a hospital where the healthcare staff are on their knees is also high.

I paid for the pneumonia vaccine in Sept (I don't qualify) - it cost 70 quid. I did this because I wanted some protection against the pneumonia-causing bacteria that might cause a secondary infection if I were to catch covid.

I wish I could have the covid vaccine. I'm almost 50 but not quite, I worry, personally, about not getting the vaccine and having to send my kids back to crowded schools with no measures to prevent airborne spread of coronavirus.

The trials were done and the regulatory bodies approved the vaccines - they were done fast because money and expertise were thrown at this problem more than for any other disease, because coronavirus is causing more damage than any other disease, worldwide. They really wouldn't approve vaccines that didn't have an adequate safety profile.

It was done faster largely because governments made more money available with fewer hoops to jump through than normal.

(fewer hoops to jump through to get the money - usually this takes bloody ages)