Regret having vaccine

[Zem74]

Had my vaccine last week, govt classes me as CEV, consultant however said no need to shield as moderate risk, thought I’d be put in group 6 for vaccine rollout.
Got put in with group 4 and was unsure whether to have it or not, but after persuasion from family I did, now I feel full of regret like I’ve made a terrible mistake
I’ll get shot down on here for saying this, but I’ve since read things on social media and the internet that’s making me really panic about how safe this vaccine is/ whether it’s part of a sinister plan etc and I feel so scared that I’ve voluntarily just got myself jabbed with it without thinking it through enough
I’m a mother to young children and these worries are keeping me awake at night since

Isn’t that better than just telling me to shut up or telling me I don’t know what I’m talking about - okay that solves everything

But you don't know what you're talking about.

If you were genuinely wanting to understand then why come in spouting well recognised conspiracy bollocks and presenting it as fact?

You've been asked numerous times to quantify your position as if you knew what you were talking about you would be able to explain why vaccine approval has been rushed.

You made the claims and then cry foul when people pull you up on them.

@Hubblebubble75 It doesn't matter whether you believe me or not. I have posted replies on here which might answer some of your questions. It would be quite difficult to reproduce all the data here, but it is all searchable.
The timeframe was reduced due to massive scientific/ pharma / political will which ensured the resources were all made available and focussed on this issue. The groups developing the vaccines were able to pick up from initiation of efforts during the SARS-1 outbreak, which were shelved due to it not becoming a significant issue.
Clinical trials were designed to be overlapping to gain as much data in as short a timeframe as possible. The longer-term safety surveillance will have been allowed after license for clinical use due to a number of factors, being the nature of the components and understood nature/activity of the formulation - being not expected to have any off-target activity in the body other than to illicit an immune response, and also because the clinical need is vastly greater during a pandemic than otherwise. It is a balance in any drug development and approval/administration - benefit Vs potential risk. Vaccines being inherently less risky than a small molecule drug. Severe side effects are vastly less likely and due to an abhorrent reaction of a patient's immune response rather than the vaccine itself.
The legal angle I imagine would be in response to the previous observations.

So "Geoff" on Facebook is better qualified that scientists who have trained as drs and biologists chemists blah blah then did years and years of research into viruses and development of vaccines but it is "Geoff*keeping you up at night

You don't know how lucky you are! I'm desperate to get the jab but I can't despite lots of medical reasons why I should have it.
Get a bloody grip and get off social media.

Please take this step: Work out how much time a day you spend on social media and use that amount of time to do something else, perhaps an art/craft activity, read a couple of chapters of an uplifting book, bake a cake etc.

Excellent advice.

#curious, im aggreeing with u, i agree we need the vacine, i do not doubt it , i agree with how u have posted u have shown people need to read studies im worried about all the others claiming all these things, mistrust in government to do with covid needs to be looked at i dont belive there nessassery would be if there wasnt social media and im not talking about being completely opposite way either

@Hubblebubble75

I’m not anti vaccine - I’m on the fence. The polio vaccine in the 50s caused paralysis in a proportion of people. It was a live vaccine , however, so there is a difference. The worry is how it’s been rushed out - which happened with the polio vaccine . I don’t think people should be shot down on here for having doubts or different views- it is a bleeding democracy ! We can have a debate without being rude and slating people

Of course we can have a debate but referring to things over 60 years ago is meaningless. You must accept that has absolutely nothing to do with science in the 2020s Why bring that up?

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@Hubblebubble75 It doesn't matter whether you believe me or not. I have posted replies on here which might answer some of your questions. It would be quite difficult to reproduce all the data here, but it is all searchable.
The timeframe was reduced due to massive scientific/ pharma / political will which ensured the resources were all made available and focussed on this issue. The groups developing the vaccines were able to pick up from initiation of efforts during the SARS-1 outbreak, which were shelved due to it not becoming a significant issue.
Clinical trials were designed to be overlapping to gain as much data in as short a timeframe as possible. The longer-term safety surveillance will have been allowed after license for clinical use due to a number of factors, being the nature of the components and understood nature/activity of the formulation - being not expected to have any off-target activity in the body other than to illicit an immune response, and also because the clinical need is vastly greater during a pandemic than otherwise. It is a balance in any drug development and approval/administration - benefit Vs potential risk. Vaccines being inherently less risky than a small molecule drug. Severe side effects are vastly less likely and due to an abhorrent reaction of a patient's immune response rather than the vaccine itself.
The legal angle I imagine would be in response to the previous observations.[/quote]
Thanks for your intelligent, well thought out response. I’m not sure I understand about the legal part - why wouldn’t the government / companies want to provide the insurance for claims for longer term side effects ( if they were confident)

@Suzi888

They aren’t sure how efficient this vaccine even is, whether we need top ups etc

That's incorrect. They know how effective it is against the original strain & the Kent variant, they're already sure it prevents serious illness, hospitalisation & deaths in the SA variant. They don't know if it will be effective against further variants because it depends how it mutates. Which is why it's so important to get as many people world wide vaccinated as soon as we can, to reduce its opportunity to mutate.

Please stop saying things, that aren't true. Telling people they don't know if it's effective or not, when they DO know it is, risks people not being willing to have it & makes everyone more vulnerable to it.

@Borntobeamum

Threads like this do not help. Is there a link saying how many people have died because they had the vaccine?! I doubt it. There’s probably a news report stating someone has died less than 24 hours after receiving it. It probably didnt state they’d either been an an RTA or died at another persons hands. Get a grip!

Telling people to get a grip isn't helpful. Maybe redirect people to the actual facts and figures eg The adverse reactions (incl deaths) that are now on the gov website:

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/958616/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

@ineedaholidaynow

Do people read the side effects label when they take headache tablets or any other medication?

Yes.

Yes, there may be a sight risk, but I think the risk of damage from long covid is much higher than the risk for the vaccine so I'm choosing the lower risk option.

Unfortunately we can't eliminate all risk.

@Hubblebubble75

I’m not anti vaccine - I’m on the fence. The polio vaccine in the 50s caused paralysis in a proportion of people. It was a live vaccine , however, so there is a difference. The worry is how it’s been rushed out - which happened with the polio vaccine . I don’t think people should be shot down on here for having doubts or different views- it is a bleeding democracy ! We can have a debate without being rude and slating people

Yes people should be able to say what they think, but others have the right to put them straight when they're spewing utter nonsense

Anti vaxers & trolls should not be allowed to post what they like.

(Not meaning you OP, I think you are possibly on the level, just scared by shite you've read on SM).

Long covid or worse death.

I get so annoyed with the disbelief and spreading of doubt. Captain Tom reached 100 years old, how do you think he reached that fantastic age - science and medicine that's how. Fgs, we seem to be going backwards 🙄

Thank you so much for all the info some of you have taken time to post. Hearing from some of you with a lot of scientific knowledge has really helped. I feel more rational about it now, my youngest wouldn’t sleep last night and I found myself laying alone panicking in the night, looking on my phone scaring myself. Unless you are someone that has anxiety then you won’t understand that feeling in the middle of the night when you’re brain goes a million miles an hour, it’s a very scary lonely place to be.
I think it’s best I end this thread now, I didn’t start it to stir up bad feeling and trouble, I genuinely felt like I needed to speak to someone neutral this morning x

[quote Hubblebubble75]@DoubleTweenQueen of course we should - I’ve had all my immunisations and so have my kids - but not rushed out ones , ones that have gone through the regulated development process ( which can take 10 years plus)[/quote]
🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️So we shouldn't have cortex all the funding thrown at it, we should have made them wait for years, begging for funding as usually happens?

We shouldn't have run trials concurrently even though we had the funding & the people will to do the trials?

Dear god, you need to get your facts straight and stop trying to scare people.

Glad you feel a bit better now OP. Things always seem worse if you're sleepless in the night.

Don't feel bad about it. You have a very real feeling of anxiety and doubt.

Personally I am angry on your behalf. You needn't have spent any minutes, let alone hours, worrying about it!

I'm not having it due to severe and unknown allergies and I'm also CEV. So I am very wary of it because of the way my body reacts to things .... However.... At no point would I worry that it's a scam or a plot - truly if these are your thoughts you do need some help - in the kindest way because this cannot be a nice way for you to live being this worried !

@TravellingTilbury interesting thanks

[quote GCAcademic]some news reports that people who have had it are dying shortly after

Have a read of this:

fullfact.org/online/vaers-covid-vaccine-deaths/[/quote]
The full fact article states that there are adverse reactions reported after the vaccine. And some of these reported and documented reactions included deaths, it is just that they can't prove that a death straight after a vaccine was the result of the vaccine. There might be correlations, even strong correlations, but not causation. While correlation doesn't prove causation it also can't rule out a link eg in some care homes. It is misleading to suggest otherwise. That said, millions of people have had the vaccines with no reported side effects and millions of people have had the vaccine without dying.

The data is the data and people can judge the risks to Covid and potential risk from an adverse reaction for themselves.

It's easy to get lost down a rabbit hole online, especially when you have health anxiety anyway, and I think some people are being really harsh.

@Jeremyironseverything

Yes, there may be a sight risk, but I think the risk of damage from long covid is much higher than the risk for the vaccine so I'm choosing the lower risk option.

Unfortunately we can't eliminate all risk.

It is for the individual to weigh up the cost v benefit risk to themselves.

[quote Zem74]@GCAcademic but I’m not anti vaxx am I - I’ve had the vaxx and I’m anxious about problems that could potentially arise from it, as it’s still in trial[/quote]
No, it is not "still in trial". Extensive trials have been done and passed, and the vaccine has been approved by the MHRA, one of the best approval authorities in the world.

If you have anxiety then you should make the choice not to scroll through your phone in the night. Be responsible for your own life, don't blame others for scaring you.