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I'm sick of running the 24hr "Corona Cafe" !

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Pebbles574 · 06/02/2021 16:39

DH and two young adult DSs at home and I am just TOTALLY fed up with all the food shopping (online), delivery & putting away, stocking, checking and constantly restocking the fridge, freezer and larder and the ENDLESS meals, snacks, cups of tea and coffee etc etc.

We take it in turns to cook dinner, but the mental load is still mine ("what shall I cook"/ "I don't know what to make"/ "how do a defrost XYZ" etc).

Also, I have a food intolerance which means that I can't eat a lot of ready meal type food (including soups and pasta sauces) so I tend to make stuff from scratch for me. But I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES THIS!
So for example today I made a huge batch of bacon, tomato and lentil soup which I thought would see me well into next week for lunches.
I said there was a small bowl each for lunch today, but to leave the rest to cool.
Then I came downstairs to find them all having massive bowls and seconds, emptying the pan and finishing off the loaf of bread which only just arrived this morning!

And it’s a constant round of nagging to get people to load and empty the dishwasher, and anything that needs handwashing just gets left on the side.

I really am totally fed up!

Anyone else want to rant too?

OP posts:
ImnotCarolineHirons · 07/02/2021 13:49

I love how even on a post about cooking, Xenia still manages to shoe horn in the fact she's a lawyer. Never fails GrinI think every single post of hers I've seen in the last ten years of Mumsnet she's managed to tell everyone she was so smart as a kid/qualified young as a lawyer/has a high income/pick your lawyerly boast of choice.
Hilarious.

Xenia · 07/02/2021 13:55

If did a search of my name you would see it wasn't every post in general though rather than those you have seen.

It is a crux of the issue however - when women earn more than their husbands there is more chance the husband will pull their weight at home - money is power etc.

StanfordPines · 07/02/2021 14:03

@Xenia

If did a search of my name you would see it wasn't every post in general though rather than those you have seen.

It is a crux of the issue however - when women earn more than their husbands there is more chance the husband will pull their weight at home - money is power etc.

I earn twice what my husband does. However I’m not a twat about it and don’t find it necessary to mention it every single post.
BIWI · 07/02/2021 14:05

Was that really necessary @StanfordPines? Hmm

rawalpindithelabrador · 07/02/2021 14:16

@Xenia

If did a search of my name you would see it wasn't every post in general though rather than those you have seen.

It is a crux of the issue however - when women earn more than their husbands there is more chance the husband will pull their weight at home - money is power etc.

I agree!

And with LikeFuck, too.

StanfordPines · 07/02/2021 14:30

I fail to see how the person who earns less should be the one doing housework, unless they work part time.

2021vision · 07/02/2021 14:33

I wonder how many women on this thread were taught to cook and how many have just learnt themselves by being interested/reading recipe books/watching cooking programmes/loving good food?

I wonder how many women on here cook meals that suit their DH and their DC more than them. A simple example but meat lasagne rather than an aubergine and lentil bake.

I wonder how many DHs think what their partner would like first when cooking rather themselves and then cook that dish.

It seems we do all of this, yet we get very liitle respect. Why do people put up with this? If cooking is shared and the DH or DC only cook the basic quick stuff because they can't be bothered then my assumption is, well clearly that's ok I'll just do that too. Perhaps when the dynamic can only change when everyone can see that by, in a family of 4, everyone putting in 25% gets much better and happier results than one person putting in 90% and everyone else the final 10%.

There is something to be said about mirroring behaviour. Do back what they do to you (whilst making sure you are taking care of yourself).

Roastednotsalt · 07/02/2021 14:37

@StanfordPines

I fail to see how the person who earns less should be the one doing housework, unless they work part time.
Just because you earn less and may work part time that the. Means you should do all the cooking and cleaning?

If you lived by yourself and worked full time who would do your washing, cleaning, cooking and food shop???

There are no maids here.

year5teacher · 07/02/2021 14:44

@LikeFuckTheyreAPleasureToTeach

This behaviour from some of the DH and DC's on here - it isn't just annoying or irritating or fatigue inducing etc.

It is lazy, disrespectful and selfish. Their behaviour just shows the kind of person they are and what they think of the person they are basically wiping their feet on. It's a fucking horrifying lack of respect towards someone they are meant to love.

Fuck that. I don't treat people I love like that - I won't accept being treated like that, either by my teen/adult DC or my DH.

There are zero excuses (and that's what they are, excuses not "reasons") for this behaviour. Working all hours, disabilities, never being brought up to do (and this is always the mother's fault of course) - it doesn't fucking matter. Those excuses all exist in our house too but they won't be used as excuses to behave so fucking selfishly with such little regard for others, especially those others they are meant to love.

Women here need to realise they deserve better and this selfishness is not inevitable or acceptable.

This!
Pebbles574 · 07/02/2021 14:48

@2021vision When DH first started working at home we used to have lunch together every day. I very quickly called time on that arrangement as although we'd agree to eat at 1 pm, for example, he'd make a habit of rolling up late, knowing that I would have started (and maybe even finished) making lunch for us both. Then for a while we took it in turns to make lunch, but I need to eat by 12.30pm/1pm and he'd conveniently always be on a call or 'just finishing off something' at that time. Also I would make us nice sandwiches on ciabatta or paninis I'd remembered to defrost in the morning, whereas he would make a dry sandwich with thick cheddar cheese a smear of pickle if I was lucky. So I was only getting something I wanted for lunch when I made it. Now I get a nice lunch 100% of the time and DH gets a crap lunch 100% of the time, but as far as I'm concerned that his problem to solve! Grin

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LikeFuckTheyreAPleasureToTeach · 07/02/2021 14:56

I actually love @Xenia for being so sheer bloody single minded. And although it is mentioned very often Grin the issue of women's earnings/employment does have relevance as part of the wider discussion here.

I also went back to work six weeks after giving birth but in fairness that was less unusual then due to maternity leave developments. It really does help to retain a balance in the home with regards to chores as well as money. If you're not there as the "default" shopper, cook and washer upper these lazy DHs and DCs simply have to get the fuck on with it. Which is as it should be quite frankly.

Also, we need to set a good role model for our DCs - no way on earth would I want them to see the example of someone doing all the planning, shopping, cooking etc just because they have ovaries.

LikeFuckTheyreAPleasureToTeach · 07/02/2021 14:59

"I very quickly called time on that arrangement as although we'd agree to eat at 1 pm, for example, he'd make a habit of rolling up late, knowing that I would have started (and maybe even finished) making lunch for us both."

He must love you very much to be so thoughtful of your well being and happiness Hmm Or is he just a thoughtless selfish twat with everyone, not just you? Either scenario isn't good though, is it.

CheddarGorgeous · 07/02/2021 15:18

What a selfish git! How does he show that he is ever considerate of you and your feelings? I couldn't live with someone like that.

WizardOfAus · 07/02/2021 16:02

I took this post from another thread. It’s not mine. It came from another website (not Mumsnet), but the message is relevant here, especially to all the women who are their husband’s cooking/cleaning/laundry slaves

(This post is specifically geared at women in heterosexual relationships.) Ok ladies, we need to talk.

Every few weeks there's a post that makes the admin team spend a day debating if we should say something or not. These posts are always on the same theme; husbands who are not pulling their weight.

Well, after just reading a post from this week were a whopping 4 HUNDRED of you commented in solidarity with the OP I've decided today is the day we say something.

Household chore inequity and child care inequality is a form of domestic abuse. It forces women to work themselves into exhaustion and illness, whilst men buy their free time with female exhaustion.

No one wants to see themselves as being in an abusive relationship. It means acknowledging that someone you love, someone you married or committed to, someone you chose to have children with is taking advantage of you and that hurts on so many levels.

it's heartbreaking to acknowledge, but acknowledge it we must.

If your husband or partner is capable of working at their job without being micromanaged and given extremely explicit instructions, then they are capable of contributing fairly at home without being given extremely explicit instructions and micromanaged. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they were capable of living independently without living in a rat-infested pigsty without any clean clothes and living off pizza, then they are capable of ensuring children are fed and clothed, groceries are done, and household chores are shared equally. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they claim they love you and yet your health comes secondary to their leisure, they're gaslighting you.

If they claim they can't possibly function and it would be unsafe for them to work with broken sleep, but it's totally fine for you to have to work, drive and do all the household chores and childcare on broken sleep, they're taking advantage of you.

If they say they are going to get up in the night and help but when the time comes the pretend to be asleep/complain, they're gaslighting you.

If they don't even actually try to settle the baby and had bub back almost immediately with "they just want you:", they're gaslighting you.

If your health, sanity, sleep, work, or self-esteem are suffering because you are the one doing everything, whilst they leverage your exhaustion into their free time, they're abusing you.
Like other forms of abuse, it will not get better on its own. It's not an accident.

So please ladies. Please stop laughing it off as "just men"

It's not just men. It's purposeful.

It might not be consciously purposeful, but it is still purposeful. They know they can get away with it.

one of you being on antidepressants because your husband won't help raise the children he fathered is one too many. 400+ of you being exhausted to the brink of PND and breakdowns is heartbreaking for us to watch.

You can't fix this by night weaning. Or sleep training. Or bedsharing, or chore charts, or even kicking hubby into the spare room. There are only two things that will fix this - therapy, or leaving.

I am sorry.

BonnieDundee · 07/02/2021 16:07

@WizardOfAus that's excellent. Thanks for posting it here

Parker231 · 07/02/2021 16:15

I thank my MIL for training DH so well! He had lived independently before we met so had already managed cooking, cleaning, laundry etc. Never marry anyone who had come straight from their parents home.

We have both always worked full time so have had to jointly manage DC’s and the home. No system - one of us does what needs doing. DS is currently home from Uni- he’s not particularly interested in cooking although has liked Hello Fresh boxes with his flat mates. Whilst he’s home he’s been doing the shopping and puts
in loads of laundry when he’s seen the basket is full.
Main rule we have always had is that only one meal is cooked each meal (am not messing around with separate meals) and we all eat together.
It does get easier as DC’s get older. Toddlers and early teens were a nightmare. Everyone too busy and too many occasions of sports kits left in the washing machine, no one remembered to buy milk or last minute requests for school cookery ingredients.

ParadiseinMoscow · 07/02/2021 16:34

I’m just cooking fucking loads of potatoes. Tray after tray of potato wedges. Before food. With food. As a snack. It’s like a sort of insanity.
Loads of Mayo. Yoghurt dip. It’s like some weird challenge to fill everyone’s bellies (four teens).
So that’s it. I have nothing to offer except to recommend feeding everyone potatoes.

StanfordPines · 07/02/2021 16:42

I’ll just point out that I’m in the bath while my husband does the ironing.

As you were....

PrawnPower · 07/02/2021 16:51

@StanfordPines

I’ll just point out that I’m in the bath while my husband does the ironing.

As you were....

Ditto. I'm watching movies while he smashes up the bathroom to build a new one.

I'll make dinner for him later and he'll be super grateful for whatever he gets. He loves my cooking and I love that he can do all the DIY/heavy lifting without me resorting to paying other men to do it.

roxanne119 · 07/02/2021 17:42

Hello teach them to cook your soup they love not just your dh but your adult sons . 🤷🏼‍♀️

Carpedimum · 07/02/2021 17:52

I’ve done fa today except read 1.5 books, had a long bath, watched a film & reclined on the sofa. DP is doing a roast. To reach this state of nirvana, 2 things had to happen: I had to say to DP & DS that I was utterly fed up of the mental load of deciding what to buy, cook, when, how, wash, wipe, soak, dry etc. lockdown has just made it all so relentless and exhausting; I also had to stop myself from interfering because they were doing things their way, not my way.

midlifeangst · 07/02/2021 17:54

Feel your pain. I was up the breakfast trays they leave to ‘soak’ or can’t be arsed to wash. I must unload the dishwasher at least twice a day. DIL does NOTHING . The table they use for work is grubby but I can’t do everything for them. We all make it far too easy for them.

Pliudev · 07/02/2021 17:57

I really, really sympathise because there's only two of us now and I'm sick of all the cooking. I wish we lived in an area where we could get take away delivered but we don't.
And, though I know I'll be flamed for saying this, I envy you OP. I would give anything to have my DSs emptying my fridge. This too will pass.

Tumblebugsjump · 07/02/2021 17:57

Sounds enormously frustrating and time for a reset. Sit everyone down, give them tasks. Our older kids have a day each a week where they have to cook, they have to look up a recipe, check what ingredients we need and let me know so I can add to the shopping list. My partner cooks some days and I cook others. They all also have a day when it’s there job to keep the kitchen tidy. Everyone has chores for around the house too, it’s just not fair otherwise, I don’t want to be everyone’s slave. The transition will be painful, it has to be done.

LouLou198 · 07/02/2021 18:01

Me too OP! Sick of planning, ordering or shopping, cooking and cleaning up. Everyone constantly wanting drinks and snacks. On Saturdays we now eat pizza on paper plates just so I get a break!