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Is everyone still following the rules?

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doireallyneedaname · 05/02/2021 15:53

We have been since March. Over the top, my partner would say. Nobody we know has been, apart from the odd CEV friend.

I’m at the end of my tether though. Partner wants one year old to be able to see the family. I have refused for months, and before that it was the odd fleeting visit outside. He says we are the danger to his parents, not them to us - but in reality we don’t see anyone or do anything and they are still working etc, so despite their age - we are not the danger.

Still, I’m tempted to visit. I just don’t know anymore.

Is anyone following the rules 100%? I should add I have stuck to them for fear of Covid, but again I’m told I’m overly cautious being in my early 30’s.

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DirtyDancing · 05/02/2021 18:56

I don’t really get this. Following ‘The Rules’ is for your own safety, yes it’s for the greater good of society too hence the appalling ICU rates. But don’t follow them at your peril.. I mean, it’s all a risk assessment isn’t it? Yes Mrs X down the road and Family Y your mate knows might not be following them, but don’t be a sheep. If you believe in the principles then you need to stick to them, or increase your risk of catching covid abs spreading it to others. That’s up to you .

Msmcc1212 · 05/02/2021 19:00

I wasn’t aware it was a choice! In fact.. it isn’t. You don’t get to pick and chose. Those of us that are sticking to them are keeping the rates lower - if everyone bent the rules to suit themselves there would be an horrific situation.

You have been doing the right thing - sticking to the rules (including caveats around mental health needs) = less contact between people = lower transmission rates = NHS can continue to provide us with healthcare when we need it = fewer deaths = less trauma and grief.

It’s not about personal fear of getting Covid or your personal risk - it’s about slowing the exponential growth and allowing us to continue to benefit from a health care service we can rely on to be there in an emergency.

Stick to the rules. No excuses.

TweeterandtheMonkeyman · 05/02/2021 19:02

I am apart from a couple of trips to the playground with one friend and their kids . I have an informal childcare bubble with my mum. I have stopped and chatted to a few friends when I’ve see them in the street. I think most people are the same as me.
I’m not at all scared of Covid for myself or my immediate family. The rules I follow for the greater good.

MuyCansado · 05/02/2021 19:03

I'm in the same boat as you OP. I'm mid-30s with a baby under 1 but live in Scotland so no bubble allowed.

I'm so tempted to see my parents (both retired) but it's the fear of covid stopping me, not the rule breaking.

We have followed the guidelines to the letter but it is becoming hard now.

doireallyneedaname · 05/02/2021 19:15

It really is. Solidarity with you!

Hoping that by the summer we’ll be able to go on a holiday without the fear... I daydream about my kid being able to splash around in a pool and then go down to the hotel restaurant for a buffet dinner!! Somewhere hot, of course. Ah, those summer evenings where everyone’s just happy to be alive.

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99victoria · 05/02/2021 19:19

I don't understand why so many people are saying they are following all the rules and haven't seen anyone since christmas. We are allowed to see people!

One of my children who lived alone has moved back in with us and we are in a childcare bubble with my other daughter and son-in-law. Strictly speaking we probably have broken the rules over the childcare as we don't hand over on the doorstep - we go into their house to get the children dressed and bring them back to ours and then my daughter comes into our house at the end of the day to pick them up.

Two or three times a week I walk outside with friends (one at a time obviously). Yesterday we walked in the pouring rain and got absolutely soaking wet but still enjoyed ourselves. This is completely within the rules. So I am still seeing most of the people I would normally mix with but outside and on a one-to-one basis instead of in a big group. The only person I haven't seen for a long time is my son and daughter in law who live in Europe :(

doireallyneedaname · 05/02/2021 19:21

It’s not within the rules for you to be meeting with friends outside for walks, is it? You’ve formed a bubble with family and it doesn’t sound like you live alone - so meeting friends for walks isn’t allowed.

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99victoria · 05/02/2021 19:23

It absolutely is allowed. You can meet one person from another household to walk outside locally

Waxonwaxoff0 · 05/02/2021 19:25

@doireallyneedaname

It’s not within the rules for you to be meeting with friends outside for walks, is it? You’ve formed a bubble with family and it doesn’t sound like you live alone - so meeting friends for walks isn’t allowed.
Meeting friends for walks absolutely is allowed. You are allowed to see as many people outdoors as you like, as long as it's one person at a time and you maintain 2m.
CoronaIsWatching · 05/02/2021 19:26

I am but what choice do you have? The pubs here have been closed for over 3 months, I WFH, meet up with my support bubble once a week. I live on my own. There's no possible way that I could break it.

AuntyClementine · 05/02/2021 19:26

We’re following them. Only slightly dodgy move was we had our front door changed. It wasn’t essential but it’d been booked in for a couple of months. The guy who fitted it wore a mask and was more or less outside or just over the threshold, so felt low risk.

doireallyneedaname · 05/02/2021 19:30

Right you are, apologies! I just assumed since our government said we are in a lock down that we were actually in a ... lock down.

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MuyCansado · 05/02/2021 19:32

@doireallyneedaname

It really is. Solidarity with you!

Hoping that by the summer we’ll be able to go on a holiday without the fear... I daydream about my kid being able to splash around in a pool and then go down to the hotel restaurant for a buffet dinner!! Somewhere hot, of course. Ah, those summer evenings where everyone’s just happy to be alive.

That's a daydream I share with you! It's my baby's first birthday in June and I'm really hoping we can have a big family BBQ to mark the occasion🤞🏼
BlackeyedSusan · 05/02/2021 19:37

Yes. Still following the rules.
Have kept to them apart from once when broke them because my disabled child was really upset and needed support, went in respite carers house instead of staying outside.

Not going shopping, trying to avoid all contacts if possible. One kid in school.

If most people follow the rules most or all of the time it will help. There are always going to be people who don't without more strict restrictions.

nonono1 · 05/02/2021 19:40

Well, my next door neighbours certainly aren’t - they currently have a group of friends over in their back garden Hmm

Vinorosso74 · 05/02/2021 19:46

At present, yes, except DD went to the park with a friend after it snowed and lots of other kids from school were there.
At Halloween, DD and some friends went to another friends house in the garden in tent. They were all in the same bubble at school so no different.
Last summer I drove 280 miles to see my parents once my dad was out of hospital following a heart attack and bypass surgery. I was told by someone at the time this wasn't really allowed. However, my mum was exhausted and my dad needed extra help so I went.
Under current rules, I can go have a wander around a garden centre then go to a place of worship or have potential buyers wander around my home. I don't agree with the rule breakers but the rules aren't sensible either.

museumum · 05/02/2021 20:03

We are obeying all the rules but we are now doing more of what’s “allowed” and the result is this lockdown has been much easier.

We are regularly meeting up one parent and ds with one other parent and dc outside, even in the rain, staying 2m apart. I’m running with a friend once a week, again outside, socially distanced and my dh is doing the same cycling. As a result all three of us are much much better and happy to carry on not breaking any actual rules.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 05/02/2021 20:54

I don't understand why so many people are saying they are following all the rules and haven't seen anyone since christmas. We are allowed to see people!
But you can only see people if they live close enough to meet them for a walk! I think you would probably say it would be unacceptable for me to travel 90 minutes by train then half an hour by bus in order to meet my closest friend for a walk?

99victoria · 05/02/2021 21:51

Well yes, it's tough if your friends all live a long way away from you. But that probably isn't the case for the majority of people is it?

sensiblesometimes · 05/02/2021 21:52

yes

EcoCustard · 05/02/2021 22:12

Not 100% throughout, rule of 6 exceeded due to family size and met in gardens as opposed to in a park last year.
This lockdown have have taken toddler to the supermarket confined to the trolley.
Dd5 met her school friend fo a play in the park this week and I had a socially distanced chat with their mum. Friend is at school and dd is now one of 4 not in out of 15. She is desperately missing her friends. We have also had socially distanced dog walks along the rural lanes with two people we know and had unintentionally met. Mostly in this last week as I am sick of struggling along with my family. Lost my business, along with a few other issues and finding it tough. Many friends are in positions of being able to continue with work, kids able to go to school and comments from a few last week about how they are unaffected made me think why the fuck am I staying home? Why are my kids not in school? Sick of the arbitrary rules.

Volcanoexplorer · 05/02/2021 22:19

Yes we are and so are the vast majority of our friends and family.

bumblingbovine49 · 05/02/2021 22:54

Yes we have. I realised today that the last people from outside of this household that DH and I met in person socially were my sister, BIL and DN who we met for a walk and a takeaway coffee on 5 Dec. So 2 months without seeing anyone else.

Also, with the exception of a pharmacy for DSs medications every month and a single visit to a minor injuries unit,.DH and I have not been anywhere indoors except our home since early September

DirtyDancing · 05/02/2021 23:02

@nonono1

Well, my next door neighbours certainly aren’t - they currently have a group of friends over in their back garden Hmm
Why would you. It’s about 4 degrees. I’d rather not see anyone
Katie517 · 06/02/2021 00:28

@doireallyneedaname you are being OTT I think. Pretending you don’t know the rules around meeting someone for a walk “I assumed the lockdown meant lockdown” and making harsher than needed restrictions for yourself. You are in your early 30s there is very little risk to you. I feel sorry for your husband and baby and who ever is telling you babies don’t need socialisation or other human contact before 2 is wrong. We have a 6 month old who has met most of the family, been to baby groups and been on 2 UK holidays and the difference between them and my niece who had no socialisation at a similar age in the first lockdown is obvious. There is simply no excuse for you being practically housebound since last March and there’s no reward at the end of this for having followed every rule and extra points for creating your own.

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