10 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

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This is a continuation of the previous thread, www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4145954-6-3-million-people-vaccinated-already-brilliant

This thread is intended as a positive place to observe our remarkable vaccine rollout as it progresses and to celebrate the ever increasing numbers as we go.

Polite notice: conspiracy theorists, doommongers and those looking for endless debate over vaccine efficacy, leave vs remain and one-legged trousers - this is probably not the thread for you.

So, to pick up from where we left off... a truly tremendous 10,021,471 people in the UK have now received their first dose of the vaccine - that’s 18.9% (or 1 in every 5.3) of all UK adults.

There’s no doubt about it - there is an unmistakable light at the end of this long, long tunnel and every day it’s getting brighter. Come on folks - let’s do this!!

@DdraigGoch

You’re right. That is assuming 100% uptake, though, which won’t happen.

Younger people, who are less likely to be seriously affected, make up a high proportion of vaccine decliners, so shouldn’t have much impact on serious cases/deaths. A bit concerned about middle-aged and older ethnic minority people, though, because they are more likely to become ill.

We won't need 100% for herd immunity though.

Just read this
Researchers urge delay in administering Pfizer vaccine's second dose, cite strong data

Its from Canada, so it's helpful to know that some researches are approving the UK's method

www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-pfizer-idUSL4N2KO194

Hope we reach 16 today :) whoop whoop

Researchers urge delay in administering Pfizer vaccine's second dose, cite strong data. Its from Canada, so it's helpful to know that some researches are approving the UK's method

I have real faith in our scientists - and that the government is listening to them and acting on their research in a bold way. It's good to see some research from abroad backing them up.

So glad that we went with the MHRA and not mnetters on this one.

@FourTeaFallOut

So glad that we went with the MHRA and not mnetters on this one.

@FourTeaFallOut

So glad that we went with the MHRA and not mnetters on this one.

All these MN advisors to the government?

Scariest thought of the day

@ScribblingPixie I have real faith in our scientists - and that the government is listening to them and acting on their research in a bold way. It's good to see some research from abroad backing them up.

So do I. And this is what we have been saying all along to those doomongerers who keep banging on about second doses.

You'd think MN was a batphone to Whitehall the way some people post.

Can't believe people think that the discussions about the vaccination program are made willy nilly. All this we are being used as a big experiment. It is like a broken record that just changes its tune slightly when proved wrong.

@FourTeaFallOut

You'd think MN was a batphone to Whitehall the way some people post.

Classic

@ScribblingPixie

Researchers urge delay in administering Pfizer vaccine's second dose, cite strong data. Its from Canada, so it's helpful to know that some researches are approving the UK's method

I have real faith in our scientists - and that the government is listening to them and acting on their research in a bold way. It's good to see some research from abroad backing them up.

This really is good news, as we’ve been heavily-criticised and derided because of the way the vaccine roll out has been done, and the timing of the booster dose. Elsewhere on this forum, trials suggest much a lower antibodies response against the SA variant by the Pfizer vaccine so it may be much more of a level playing field between vaccines. Only time and trials will tell

@FourTeaFallOut

You'd think MN was a batphone to Whitehall the way some people post.

😆

@DdraigGoch

We won't need 100% for herd immunity though.

What is the level supposed to be please?

FourTeaFallOut
grin You'd think MN was a batphone to Whitehall the way some people post.“

I am still in my I am Batman pyjamas 🥴

@DdraigGoch

We won't need 100% for herd immunity though.

True.

Even if we 80-90% coverage, that wouldn’t mean no cases ever, would it? Just that they would be isolated/small clusters, rather than spreading like wildfire.

Without wanting to sound jingoistic, we have a good record of medical research in this country. I live near Cambridge and even within my very small social circle, mostly made up of parents at DDs school, I know people that work for Astra Zeneca, Pfizer, Roche, Glaxosmithcline, etc.

These companies see the UK as a good place to be, just a few years ago AZ relocated their HQ from London to Cambridge and there was an insane amount of building that went on as they knew there would be massive demand for housing in the area.

What is the level supposed to be please?
We don't yet know. Measles is 90-95%, polio 80-85%. The R rate of measles could be as high as 15, so hopefully covid will only need 70% for herd immunity.

@DdraigGoch

What is the level supposed to be please? We don't yet know. Measles is 90-95%, polio 80-85%. The R rate of measles could be as high as 15, so hopefully covid will only need 70% for herd immunity.

The formula for the number of people who have to have immunity is:-

1 - 1/R

The UK’s “natural” R is believed to be between 3 and 5 so that means between 67% and 80%.

My view is that even when restrictions are relaxed we will live in a “less social” world where people work from home more, travel less and wash their hands more so I think we will be more at the 3-End than the 5-end.

So about 67%.

BUT - that is 67% with immunity - not 67% vaccinated. So - on one hand - those who have had it are going to help this number. On the other hand - even after two jabs - immunity is only about 90%. So to be confident we really need about 73% vaccinated.

The other problem we have is that one unvaccinated group are going to be spending lots of time together all crammed into small buildings. Ie kids. So until the vaccine is extended to kids we will still have some pretty big outbreaks although the vast majority of those people will be asymptomatic or just mildly impacted. (Although that does make it even more likely that they will bring it home to vaccinated-but-not-immune granny.)

Loving the maths as always ❤

If I remember correctly at the beginning of vaccinations they were saying we would need over 70% vaccinated but the more the better

When it comes to school I am hoping the outbreaks would be most isolated to individuals schools once adults are vaccinated. The issue I can see is all the after school and weekend activities. So many have kids mixing from different schools. Therefore the spread from one school to another is very likely.

It’s going to be close to half a million today

Interestingly Wales now has a third of their numbers being second doses

@Mumoftwoinprimary that 90% immunity number though. Is that that people who either don’t catch it or if they catch it have zero symptoms. Then the other 10% are people who have mild symptoms? So nobody will have serious disease or death? So even if they do bring it home to somebody who has had the jab - they won’t get seriously ill.

@Frazzled2207

It’s going to be close to half a million today

I was just coming on to mpost about this! Oh My God! This is amazing!

We have NEVER had half a million on a Thursday announcement. Never! The nearest was 2 weeks ago when we hit 469k.

This is officially Best Thursday Ever!

Come on Northern Ireland - let us get the 500k!