Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

WHO urges Britain to pause covid jabs after treating the vulnerable

853 replies

Jay2020 · 30/01/2021 15:42

Link

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/who-urges-britain-to-pause-covid-jabs-after-treating-vulnerable

I am beyond broken if this means we can't get to any kind of normality.

OP posts:
Perfect28 · 30/01/2021 16:55

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

LetItGoGo · 30/01/2021 16:55

It would make the current irritations of the UK vaccine queue very different.
There would no longer be a queue!

Pastanred · 30/01/2021 16:55

The who advice only works if all countries vaccinate against the same priority order

They are not.

So a healthy teacher in their 40s may not make the uk priority list but could make a france or German list

How’s would you feel then if your vaccine went to a similar person to you in another country?

Poppystars · 30/01/2021 16:56

Is Israel being asked to pause as they have pfeizer from EU?
Are the other countries with high vaccination rates stopping?

I can see the sense of no vaccine going to countries like Australia and NZ from EU as they have a much safer and more normal life, and schools open, 30,000 a day at the Australian Open etc. But not in countries that have over 1,000 a day dying from COVID!

BoGoFonMNBullies · 30/01/2021 16:56

It is a global pandemic, but not all countries are equally affected.

For example, the UK variant (definitely more transmissible, probably more mortality) is mainly in the UK.

There was a map showing the countries most affected by Covid-19 and the areas very seriously affected were Europe, USA, India, Brazil. Vast areas of the world had very little impact from it.

I think the WHO needs to consider the fact that our dominant variant is worse than nearly all other countries' variants, apart from Brazil and South America.

Perfect28 · 30/01/2021 16:56

Also just to remind those being overly melodramatic, this hasn't being going on for a year yet and we had considerable relaxation of restrictions for several months.

LetItGoGo · 30/01/2021 16:56

It is terrible reporting come to think if it.

LetItGoGo · 30/01/2021 16:57

And I've come to discount most of the stuff coming from Tedros.

Empressofthemundane · 30/01/2021 16:57

We should carry on vaccinating. England is densely populated and deaths per 100k of population have been particularly high.

When we have most of our most vulnerable populations vaccinated and sticks to vaccinate the rest, I am sure we will donate our excess. We have already generously contributed to Covax and subsidised a top flight biomedical research capability over many years through our taxes which will help people beyond our borders.

At this point the WHO is sort of a joke. They can’t or won’t investigate China, and they have a lot of bad advice at the start. Why should we pay them any mind now?

Fancycrackers · 30/01/2021 16:57

@Perfect28

For me, the fact we are doing so well at vaccinating just shows how selfish we are. We need to think of ourselves as a global community so I absolutely think that WHO are right, after the vulnerable are vaccinated the priority should be to vaccinate the vulnerable elsewhere.
This 100%.

Unless of course we just close our borders forever.

nimbuscloud · 30/01/2021 16:58

The issue is that the virus may mutate in developing countries faster than inhabitants in those countries can be vaccinated thus rendering the current vaccines less effective thus prolonging the global pandemic. That’s what WHO are extremely worried about.

BoGoFonMNBullies · 30/01/2021 16:58

Btw, the serious situation in those countries given as examples is almost entirely due to the strategy taken by the governments. However, it is not the citizens fault that their governments have taken the wrong approach and should not be penalised by having rationing of vaccines.

Splodgetastic · 30/01/2021 16:58

I don’t pay taxes here for my government to spaff it up the wall in another country.

Oblomov20 · 30/01/2021 16:58

I can't support this. I know that developing Countries need it too. I also recognise that we can't immunise all our people in the UK and then sit back and think will be okay because that's not the case either.

However the WHO asking the UK to stop the program while the rest of the world catches up, is a totally unfair thing of the WHO to do to the UK.

Who is the WHO proposing pays for all this then?

LetItGoGo · 30/01/2021 16:58

I agree the top level WHO are a joke.

Bythemillpond · 30/01/2021 16:58

Shelovesamystery
Whilst you might not think you need the vaccine you really can’t be sure how if you caught this virus your body would react. I saw a picture of a slim young woman with no health issues who had died from this disease. You can’t be certain how this disease will go. One of the people I know thought like you that he didn’t need the vaccine as he was youngish fit and heathy. Within a short time of being tested positive he was dead.
Still trying to come to terms with this.

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:59

Why didn't the WHO intervene over our PPE shortage?

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:59

Or when Germany stopped PPE exports to Italy?

Suzi888 · 30/01/2021 16:59

@Perfect28

For me, the fact we are doing so well at vaccinating just shows how selfish we are. We need to think of ourselves as a global community so I absolutely think that WHO are right, after the vulnerable are vaccinated the priority should be to vaccinate the vulnerable elsewhere.
I agree with this. At some point, we just need to get on with it.
FTMF30 · 30/01/2021 17:00

@marbellamarc

You can't work out why that was a dick move?
Obviously not or I wouldn't have asked.

If I was at risk of a deadly disease, I would want to do everything in my power to try and save myself from it. In this case, it would be trying to lose weight.

wanderings · 30/01/2021 17:00

Saint Boris and/or his merry men said the vaccine didn't prevent transmission.

Or was that a lie?

It's so hard to know what it truth and lies right now.

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 17:00

Who is the WHO proposing pays for all this then?

Not China

CoronaIsWatching · 30/01/2021 17:01

Since when do we have to listen to what the WHO says? All the WHO is is a bunch of so called experts pontificating. They didn't do much to stop this pandemic.

Pastanred · 30/01/2021 17:02

We likely won’t have excess vaccines

Those extra orders will form part of the annual booster they reckon we will need every year like the flu vaccibe

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/01/2021 17:02

There's nothing wrong with it but...

The UK, Europe and others are currently in the depths of winter... Covid rates are sky high, hospitals almost inundates... we have an older, more susceptible population.

In a few weeks there will be less strain on the NHS, better weather and, most importantly, more vaccines available.

Warner countries with younger populations and less current covid are behind us in their pandemic path. There is every chance that we can send them more than enough vaccines to protect the most vulnerable, over and above the free vaccines promised by AZ etc, in time to beat their time if most need.

But I am guessing that that message, from various sources, isn't really what anyone wants to hear as it can easily be spun to mean anything!