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WHO urges Britain to pause covid jabs after treating the vulnerable

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Jay2020 · 30/01/2021 15:42

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www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/who-urges-britain-to-pause-covid-jabs-after-treating-vulnerable

I am beyond broken if this means we can't get to any kind of normality.

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Orangeblossom1977 · 30/01/2021 16:03

*Just Britain? Rest of the world can just crack on?

Not, the WHO did not single out Britain - it was talking about all the countries which are making fast progress*

Yes- this I thought the Guardian title was misleading. (Unsurprisingly)

kowari · 30/01/2021 16:04

Sounds fair to me. Once the most vulnerable are protected then the NHS is in a better position to treat middle aged or younger patients who require hospital treatment.

PicsInRed · 30/01/2021 16:04

@IrishMamaMia

I've seen this and was also annoyed by it. Same World Health Organisation who praised China and advocated NOT blocking any flights until end of February. I hope we continue to vaccinate our population and contribute to Novavax as planned.
Precisely. We fucked ourselves over by heeding them in 2020, let's do ourselves a favour and ignore this "advice" in 2021.

Aren't Germany and France planning to use AZ to vaccinate their working age people - does the WHO have anything to say on that?

Thought not.

Perfect28 · 30/01/2021 16:07

@IrishMamaMia
Don't you think that most people around the world have had a terrible year? Sorry we don't live in a bubble. What happens around the world will affect us. To me, being a British person doesn't make you more important. Seeing the bigger picture here is the right thing both practically and morally.

AwkwardSquad · 30/01/2021 16:07

@Perfect28

For me, the fact we are doing so well at vaccinating just shows how selfish we are. We need to think of ourselves as a global community so I absolutely think that WHO are right, after the vulnerable are vaccinated the priority should be to vaccinate the vulnerable elsewhere.
Selfish? Highest death rate per capita in the world = selfish? I agree we shouldn’t be stockpiling an unfair proportion of the world’s vaccine capacity once we’ve vaccinated our at risk population but ‘selfish’? That’s a bit much.
Perfect28 · 30/01/2021 16:09

@Bookriddle

You are 28 and I presume without any medical conditions? Yet you want or think you deserve the vaccine before vulnerable people because? Because of your nationality?

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:09

I think whilst it's morally right on paper it's quite difficult to put into practice.
What about healthy people in jobs that are high risk?
And does China have a moral duty to financially help poorer countries?

SirVixofVixHall · 30/01/2021 16:09

@Eaumyword

What if you're 49, work in a school and have underlying health conditions but none of the ones officially identified, so you'll just miss qualifying for the vaccination? There's a lot of 40+ in hospital...
Agree with this. I am 57 with autoimmune diseases that don’t put me on the urgent list, but I am understandably worried about catching Covid as my system overreacts generally. I have two children in secondary school and I very much want to be vaccinated .
Chickenqueen · 30/01/2021 16:09

What about Israel? They are talking about vaccinating 16 year olds now.

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:10

Absolutely support COVAX though.

IrishMamaMia · 30/01/2021 16:10

@Perfect28 you're right being a British person doesn't make you more important, it makes you statistically more likely to die from Covid-19.

Perfect28 · 30/01/2021 16:10

Self centred, priotising (short sighted and misplaced) self interest, yes. Selfish. Inward looking. Nationalistic. Why should a healthy young person have a vaccine before an elderly vulnerable one on account of where they live?

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:11

The longer the pandemic goes on the more likely it is that the virus will mutate in ways that mean the vaccines we do have are less effective.

That was also my understanding.
What about vulnerable people who can't yet have the vaccine?

HSHorror · 30/01/2021 16:11

There is no way gov will do this.
The backlash would be huge
As it would mean continue issues with schools
It would increase risk to groups unable to be vaxxed including children
Affect the economy
Affect anyone for whom vax didnt work. We dont even know for sure how well they do work. Other countries are using pfizer so may more quickly get herd immuniity.
People woukd surely refuse any sd measures. Anyone left unvaxxed will catch it ever few months

IrishMamaMia · 30/01/2021 16:12

@Perfect28 you seem to have a very ideal, naive view of how the world works. It's quite sweet really.

lightand · 30/01/2021 16:12

A boon to anti-vaxxers.
Puts pro-vaxxers in disarray.

marbellamarc · 30/01/2021 16:13

Why should a healthy young person have a vaccine before an elderly vulnerable one on account of where they live?

I think that's to simplistic.

We already have problems administering vaccines to poorer countries eg measles & what about food wastage when some are starving?

HSHorror · 30/01/2021 16:14

Maybe we need to stop publishing how many are vaxxed.
It is obviously causing issues. And it is personal info.

IrishMamaMia · 30/01/2021 16:15

@HSHorror I totally agree, I think it's a good example of where we can use the oxygen mask theory. Let's help ourselves and then we can help others. We're fast heading toward destitution as it is.

Beaniecats · 30/01/2021 16:15

No. Sorry we need our lives and freedoms back. Now. So vaccinations have to proceed

AlecTrevelyan006 · 30/01/2021 16:17

Once every adult in the U.K. has been offered a vaccine then we should start helping out other countries

Fieldofyellowflowers · 30/01/2021 16:17

If we've got the vaccines to hand and ready to go, why should we wait? How is it our fault that some people cough EU cough didn't get their act together quickly enough and farted about for months.

Wildswim · 30/01/2021 16:17

@IrishMamaMia

I've seen this and was also annoyed by it. Same World Health Organisation who praised China and advocated NOT blocking any flights until end of February. I hope we continue to vaccinate our population and contribute to Novavax as planned.
This.