[quote Barababam]@Floppywin I am finding the Danish authorities very open with information and data, which is why I think most Danes are happy (I'm not Danish, if that matters, but from another EU country). Danes are also typically very trusting, including of their government, so Iøm not surprised here either.
I have noted the higher ratio of women. I think it's part the longer life expectancy, but also that women represent a big proportion of health care workers.
Denmark is doing well, but I cannot avoid being suspicious that the highest category on that World map is aligned with Denmark to show how good we are :D:
I don't think Denmark is doing that much better than most other European countries. I can see that Malta is ahead of us, and the others are pretty much right behind us.
They have said that we're doing well for a number of administrative reasons. Things like, we already had a vaccine register where all vaccines from birth are registered. My understanding is that the Netherlands didn't have a vaccine register, so had to develop one from scratch. Everything in Denmark is tracked on the basis of one number (our ID number) so it is easier to keep track of everything. The country is divided into 5 regions, who are responsible for health, which meant that vaccines only needed to be divided into 5 regions, which then was responsible to distribute the vaccines within their region. I have also read somewhere that we had the 'special needles' which meant we could get 6 or even 7 doses from each vial, which meant effectivity (you can see vaccination effectivities over 100% for the regions).
Denmark has also come out today saying that AZ vaccines will be given to healthcare workers under 65 and elderly will be given Moderna/Pfizer, as I hypothesised they would do yesterday. I'm not surprised. It has nothing to do with anti-UK sentiment or whatever some have written here and all to do with that they want the evidence to be complete. Once it is (they sound like they expect it to be fine so it's a when it happens not an if it happens situation) then they will use AZ vaccines on the elderly too. We don't have big amounts of cases (actually lockdown is starting to be lifted, with younger school kids returning to school from Monday) so the rush and stress to get vaccines asap is just not there. I think that's a sensible decision.[/quote]
Thank you really interesting post i have to say having visited Denmark its a lovely country and one I could see myself moving to but don't think I could ever manage Danish in totally rubbish at languages.
I have a old school acquaintance who moved you moved to Netherlands so see her updates and seems like they had quite a strict lockdown.
You also raise excellent points 2 factors
Eu comprised of 27 states sure but I think helathcare is devolved they make their own decisions so provision of healthcare and records vary.
Despite uk having a national healthcare service each devolved nation England Scotland Wales and ni decides what they do.
A lot of departments been sub contacted to private firms and how nhs records keeping can be messy and not very high tech.
We have a red book here when they babies 0-5 to track child immunisation.
We have an nhs nhs number.
But to prove to say airport or travel company what vaccine history is we would have to invest and create a register.
The other point about 27 member states and I get why some British may think this.
The UK has been so bad this autumn winter in terms rising infections,hospital admission, restriction and rising deaths our perception is and our media granted maybe more scare mongering than European press.
But we all feel a sense of urgency over here as we don't want to get the virus, lose a loved one, we hate the restriction on our freedom and economically many are struggling as they either on furlough pay as they work travel or hospitality and the government pays them 80% average wage.
Universal credit is for the ever growing unemployed and low income.
Many self employed have has no support at all.
We have had huge issue here with many refusing to self isolate.
Our children have missed nearly a year of school.
Our track and trace has been far from a world beating success sadly.
Many here feel angry about lack of control over our borders last summer many brits when abroad on holiday.
The only successful think our government has done is procure vaccines and genome sewuencong.
We have some great scientists when the government can be bothered to listen to them.
I think many uk on here agree we far from perfect here , we made many mistakes and we think we better than the eu .
Lots say we a Island so why can't we be like new Zealand or Australia.
The UK is different.
London is a large international hub big finance sector .
We have any international students.
We have many people from all over the world eu and other countries emigrate here so naturally when they resist their family on their home countries there's a lot of travel.
My freind poratgeuse mum comes over frequently.
My relatives usa visit every 2 to 3 years.
Uk seems massively popular tourists destination in summer.
The thing is we have go realise every country and member state is different.
Some have small population, less population dense than UK.
I gather some eu states happy wait longer for their vaccines as the virus not that bad where they are where as others are struggling and high numbers and want the vaccine straight away.
Spain and Italy were badly hit and rely on tourism so can see why they be keener to get vaccine sooner.
I imagine France Austria and Italy taken a hit with loss ski season my eldest was in northern Italy skiing last Feb and only made it back a few days before Italy locked down.
In summer many brits go Spain, Portugal Turkey and Greece so imagine they want vaccines so they can be can improve but also be safe.
Sad to say right now I don't think there should be travel abroad for brits just yet if the rest if Europes not protected.
As I just don't want yet another new strain being brought back.
Restriction of movement even harder in Europe as its key principle so seasonal workers from eu country with high rates if infections could easily change country and go work elsewhere .
I do hope over the few months things improve for all and that we all vaccinated by autumn.