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UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics Attendance explore-education-statistics. service.gov.uk/find-statistics/attendance-in-education-and-early-years-settings-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
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CovidMessenger live update by council district in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
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PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths Dashboard app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
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ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe Uk data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK read https_www.ecdc.europa.eu/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecdc.europa.eu%2Fen%2Fcases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
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Does anyone know when the surge testing results will start showing up in government data? Or are they recorded elsewhere?

Cases in Woking currently at 31 today, which is a 25% drop.

[quote MRex]@Haffiana - that's the automatic title from The Guardian; I linked it because that's the first Google link I found to the research. I read the same headline as meaning that 90% have immunity after 21 days, which aligns with the research, but having a look at it the beginning of the article is a bit confused with "One dose ofthe Pfizer/BioNTech vaccinegives people about 90% protection from Covid by 21 days". You could take it up with The Guardian if you feel strongly enough.[/quote]
I agree it is sloppy of them, especially as elsewhere they correctly quote and discuss the preprint findings. I expect they will edit it shortly.

@ceeveebee

I just checked that trafford data lab link. Are you sure they are updating that daily? Their data for even a week ago is off by a lot.

For example Sevenoaks: 19th-25th Jan should be 354 cases. They are showing 293. Which is off by a LOT for cases from a week ago.

@ancientgran My mum says her jab went very well yesterday, thanks. She says Westpoint was all very well organised and spacious, and yes they told her they were doing about 800 people a day there. She had the Oxford vaccine. She actually got a text from her GP on Tuesday inviting her to book with them - she called them to say she'd already booked online at Westpoint and they said that was great, and were happy as it would take the pressure off the numbers they had to get though - so if your DH is still waiting to hear, do please tell him this.

Re your care home still waiting - have you considered going to your MP, or the local press?

[quote littleowl1]@ceeveebee

I just checked that trafford data lab link. Are you sure they are updating that daily? Their data for even a week ago is off by a lot.

For example Sevenoaks: 19th-25th Jan should be 354 cases. They are showing 293. Which is off by a LOT for cases from a week ago.[/quote]
They are showing rates, not number of cases

Re Pfizer effecacy after 21 days on a single dose. There's clear evidence that one dose works on its own by 21 days. There's not much evidence that it goes on working for up to 12 weeks beyond that, as that wasn't trialed. Might work better (Oxford one does). Might work worse. It's very, very unlikely to suddenly completely stop working at some random time between 3 and 12 weeks.

But we should soon be collecting this data. People who were vaccinated before Christmas have had 6-8 weeks now, so I do hope we're tracking how they're doing and watching out for any signs of immunity starting to wane before 12 weeks. I said I'd like this data when I filled in the survey on the dashboard - might be worth others flagging this up too.

[quote Firefliess]@ancientgran My mum says her jab went very well yesterday, thanks. She says Westpoint was all very well organised and spacious, and yes they told her they were doing about 800 people a day there. She had the Oxford vaccine. She actually got a text from her GP on Tuesday inviting her to book with them - she called them to say she'd already booked online at Westpoint and they said that was great, and were happy as it would take the pressure off the numbers they had to get though - so if your DH is still waiting to hear, do please tell him this.

Re your care home still waiting - have you considered going to your MP, or the local press? [/quote]
That is good news for your mum, glad it went well. It is a big site so I thought it would be a good place to do it, easy to park etc. We go there sometimes when things like the County Show are on.

We have contacted the local hub where it is being organised and I think it is Helen Whately but could be local MP. We are hoping to get a definite date soon.

DH got a call from GP today so he is getting it at the weekend.

@TheSunIsStillShining

Our small MSOA has skyrocketed in the past few days. And I can't figure out why. Richmond overall is going down, but there are 3-4 msoas within that just keep going up. :(

If I go out of my back gate I'm in an area that is falling, if I go out the front door it is rising. I suppose the moral is that I should go out the back gate.

Anecdata; our trust was horribly hard hit in December (Kent) in the week between Christmas and new year 30% of staff were off sick/ isolating. They were very proactive in vaccinating the staff and everyone who wanted a vaccine had had one by the 15th Jan. This week- not a single positve covid test (all staff check LFTs twice weekly). We still have over 200 Covid inpatients so it's not like they're not getting exposed......

All pfzeir vaccine

@babyyodaxmas

Anecdata; our trust was horribly hard hit in December (Kent) in the week between Christmas and new year 30% of staff were off sick/ isolating. They were very proactive in vaccinating the staff and everyone who wanted a vaccine had had one by the 15th Jan. This week- not a single positve covid test (all staff check LFTs twice weekly). We still have over 200 Covid inpatients so it's not like they're not getting exposed......

Wonderful news.

Oh that's one dose as the trust has to follow NHSE guidence so 2nd doses are starting 1st March of March.

1st week of March

That sounds promising @babyyodaxmas

@ceeveebee Ahh indeed! I misread their table on my little phone screen!

Medics calling for longer symptom list: saying we ignore this "at our peril":

www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n283

Interesting @JanuaryChill. I wonder how much is current symptoms with the new variant (rumours about sneezing/ cold symptoms), and how much of leaving out things like fatigue and headache has been that they are perceived to be very non-specific. (Definitely need to include "unusual" with fatigue, for those of us with young children who wake at night!) Diarrhoea seems to just be a miss whichever way it's looked at, because Covid-Zoe has been highlighting that since April as a specific type. The previous comments I believed centred on it being found almost always with fever, but with new variants there shouldn't be that kind of assumption. Especially when our test capacity and turnaround seems to be so good now.

I'd like to derail the thread for a very short while with a question
Let me know if you want it deleted.
I don't want a thread for it, but I'm curious on what others think. Specifically ppl here who are not overly dramatic :)

Wwyd in this situation
I have crohn's. It's proven that it is partially genetic predisposition and partially outside factors triggering it. Also proven that boys are much more likely to inherit this gene*, especially if mum has it, not dad. And if it's triggered they tend to be hospitalized with it more.
So let me ask you this: what would you do/think:

1. nothing to see here, let son (15) go to school, whatever
2. let's protect him as much as possible when he already has about 75% chance of developing a life long condition (can vary from mild/almost normal living to needing a feeding tube and stoma bag at all times)?

The GP admitted that apart from hearing about crohn's she has never had a patient with this condition in 10 years, has no idea and I should consult some specialist. But referrals are halted until april, so just wait.
She also confirmed that I am in the lowest group as they didn't add this autoimmune condition to the cv list. Best to her knowledge.

I've had a chat with a friend who said I'm totally stupid to keep him home and I'm being paranoid. But our family view is that if he already has a high chance let's not add to it with something that we know nothing about. And no specific research has been conducted so far that I could find.

In EU they have approved vacc from 16, so there is a potential to get him vaccinated this year nov maybe.

*I wish there was a genome test like for some cancers, but there is none.

@TheSunIsStillShining I'm sorry that is very difficult. Hard enough anyway without a pandemic.

My view, and it's just my view, is that I wouldn't want him to hold back his life for fear of a condition he may or may not have, he could spend his whole life avoiding triggers and what sort of life would that be. But easy for me to say when it's not my dc.

Are n't the schools closed anyway ?

@tootyfruitypickle
He is not really aware what he has to "miss out" on as we avoided introducing the triggers into our family life on purpose. And it's not hard to avoid: sugary fizzy drinks, takeaway like mcdonalds, generally unhealthy foods.
Before the pandemic he didn't even know that this was in the cards for him. So in no way was it limiting his life. :)
Stress is another trigger, but I'm not willing to treat it as such because then I'd have to put him in a bubble which is way more unhealthy :) But I did/do teach him stress relief methods. Not that it's helpful - according to him ....

@babyyodaxmas
We didn't send him back in Sept, so he's been off since last feb.

There are a lot of trials underway and I think there will be child vaccines approved by summer at least for clinically vulnerable, maybe older teens. The difficulty is that he doesn't have a diagnosis yet.
I'm afraid I don't know much about Crohn's covid risks, this site suggests there isn't expected to be additional risk: "Coronavirus (COVID-19): What your risk means for you | Crohn's & Colitis UK" crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/news/advice-for-people-with-crohns-and-colitis-self-isolation-social-distancing#what's%20my%20risk. It's difficult, because impacts for some conditions may not be known for a long time, clearly there cannot be good solid tracking that would be sure to pick up gradual condition worsening during this time of reduced healthcare. That said, the impact on children does seem much less.
What does your son want? Would he want to learn from home for so long? Does he perceive a risk of getting Crohn's at some point?

Sun would you access private consultation?

@MRex
It was a full family discussion and decision in August. And he is fine staying home. He has grown up seeing my "struggles", hospitalizations and frequent A&E visits, so he would like to avoid it.

I hope he will never have a diagnosis :)

Yeah, I've seen the CC website, it's not really based on anything than "we think". Actually the canadian researchers are the ones way ahead of the curve generally, but even they are silent.
Anecdotally from crohn's forums it does seem to have quite a significant impact and infection mostly results in hospital stay. But no data unfortunately :(

@MarshaBradyo

Sun would you access private consultation?

What good would that do? There are not studies, data to rely upon.