6.3 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

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This is a continuation of the previous thread, www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4129412-1-5-million-people-vaccinated-already-brilliant

6,353,321 people in the UK have now received their first dose of the vaccine - that’s 1 in every 8.3 adults. It’s a truly remarkable achievement to have reached so many people in such a short space of time.

Welcome to the new thread and let’s keep the positive vibes going!

Wow 10 million!!! Brilliant news indeed. What a milestone. Bring on the next 3.9 million and then we move into the next groups

It’s actually under 5 million. The government is now looking at how to message not offering second doses. It’s a positive spin and good people are being vaccinated, but it’s not a flag waving ten million vaccinated.
It’s just under half that number.

@CherryRoulade

It’s actually under 5 million. The government is now looking at how to message not offering second doses. It’s a positive spin and good people are being vaccinated, but it’s not a flag waving ten million vaccinated. It’s just under half that number.

Where are you getting that 'under 5 million' from? Do you have some other more reliable source of data? We know that about half a million have had 2 doses at this point but I've seen nothing anywhere else to suggest the number who've had a first vaccination is under 5 million at this point.

@CherryRoulade
Excuse me?

Where on earth have you got that idea @CherryRoulade? You're simply wrong.

10 million + in the UK have had their first jab. Of that half a million have had their second.

As we know from all the recent reports, the jabs are very effective 21 days after vaccination and that effectiveness lasts through 12 weeks (for AZ certainly and likely for the others). Are you trying to make some subtle point about immunity still developing in half of those immunised?

There's no evidence at all that the government is going to not offer second doses.

It sounds like you've been reading idiotic Facebook posts or vaccine conspiracy theories. Unless you can back up what you spout with evidence this may not be the thread for you.

@CherryRoulade que?

One legged trousers don’t keep you warm. Puppies don’t go out until two weeks after second vaccination.

Part vaccination is not vaccination in line with international and manufacturers guidance.

No not Facebook posts.

@CherryRoulade

One legged trousers don’t keep you warm. Puppies don’t go out until two weeks after second vaccination.

Part vaccination is not vaccination in line with international and manufacturers guidance.

😒

10 million 🤩

Dare we hopefully 10.5 by the end of today?

@CherryRoulade
Please quote your source or go away

@CherryRoulade

One legged trousers don’t keep you warm. Puppies don’t go out until two weeks after second vaccination.

Part vaccination is not vaccination in line with international and manufacturers guidance.

What if you only have one leg?

There is no evidence base of the efficacy of using a single dose. All trials were on two doses. Source would be Sir Patrick Valence.

“Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser, said this morning that the government would “just need to keep measuring the numbers” to ensure that a single dose offered reasonable protection.”

The simple truth is that we don’t know whether the government gamble will pay off. We do know the numbers are not an indication of full vaccination and are not comparable to other nations offering two, as per manufacturer guidance.

What if you only have one leg?
Then clearly you’d need individual consideration. Luckily most of the population doesn’t only have one leg.

Two legs will protect most people from the cold; one legged trousers, less so.

@CherryRoulade We have had this debate ad infinitem with correct scientific data. Go and find another thread to vomit over.

Yes let’s hope for 10.5m today!

@CherryRoulade There is no evidence base of the efficacy of using a single dose

You haven’t been keeping up. This is factually incorrect. Now run along.

One legged trousers don’t keep you warm

Surely the efficacy different between the first and second dose is only the difference between full length trousers and ankle skimmers? They keep you pretty warm.

Hello everyone.

Can someone please guide me towards a more legit source of info as this disgusting headline is creating a lot of divide among my mauritian family and friends?
I really don't think this is what was said in the briefing yesterday.

@FourTeaFallOut yes but @CherryRoulade failed her science class. She is going back to read the data and retake the exam.

Second dose 12 weeks after first is the recommended schedule for AZ, cherryroulade so^^ obviously there's no second shots of that done yet.
And sure, people who've had one shot should still be taking all the precautions. Of course. Everyone knows that, don't they?

I'm not sure if the government made the right call altering the second jab timing for Pfizer, none can be - at that point in case load and new variants in the U.K., getting twice as many people most of the protection may well have been a very pragmatic choice. Only time will tell on that.

Anyway, as far as I can see your '5 million' is an irrelevant 10/2 calculation which doesn't reflect any sort of reality.

No, she really didn’t fail at science.

That said point me to the source (as opposed to potentially misleading data sets that are not standardised) where there is irrefutable evidence that a single dose is trialled and proven as efficacious please?

Shall we ask Pfizer?
www.pfizer.com/health/coronavirus/updates

Nobody is saying lots getting a single dose is a bad thing compared to no vaccination, but let’s not pretend it’s in line with any guidance or evidence.

Let’s also not turn part vaccination into a jingoistic Churchillian moment when the job is only half done and there are definitely risks in supply chain for second doses within recommended timescales.

@CherryRoulade that debate is open but not happening here.
But just this week there is evidence that a single dose of AZ DOES work and there is new evidence coming out about Pfizer which says the same.

Where is the 5 million from? 10 million have had one jab. Half a million have had 2. These are facts which I don’t think are disputable. Unless you think the many mnetters who are busy vaccinating all day every day are lying.

There are a few people with second shots already. Notably, Mr Johnson senior.
First public dose given on December 8. That should mean plenty having second dose now, since were 8 weeks past that time.

Can we all just please ignore the doomsayer who is blatantly just out to piss on everyone's chips?

[quote Frazzled2207]@CherryRoulade that debate is open but not happening here.
But just this week there is evidence that a single dose of AZ DOES work and there is new evidence coming out about Pfizer which says the same.

Where is the 5 million from? 10 million have had one jab. Half a million have had 2. These are facts which I don’t think are disputable. Unless you think the many mnetters who are busy vaccinating all day every day are lying.[/quote]
Where is that evidence- are we talking anecdote or trial?