Friend saying she’s ignoring lock down from the end of the month.

[Covidcovid]

She’s always being very anti lockdown, citing mental health issues, etc and has just said from next week that’s it. She will do what she wants and take any fines.

I assume she just means visiting family because it’s not like she can go out for lunch or shopping. 🤷‍♀️

But I don’t understand her, she’s an intelligent person and an ex nurse. Her mum is currently very unwell in hospital with covid but she posted the other day that her mum has turned a corner and should hopefully be home soon. So surely she should see if it wasn’t for lockdown then there’s a risk people like her mum may not have got the treatment they needed because the hospitals would have likely being overwhelmed?

If it was me I’d be thankful there had been a lockdown because it wouldn’t have taken much more the way things were going for hospitals to not be able to,offer the current level of care......and in ICU even that isn’t optimal care with stretched ratios.

[Mizzler]

@TinyTinaTriesAgain no, they are the government, who have failed time and time again to institute measures to control this virus. Get angry with them!

[OnlyFoolsnMothers]

People like you may be the reason why my elderly parents will be stuck at home for months and months, may even die, and why I can't see them don’t blame the general public, everyone’s tried their best. People have sacrificed their businesses their income their children’s education for the generation of your parents and quite frankly I personally don’t think it’s worth it

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'So many selfish whiners. I'm not having a ball during this pandemic either, my mental health is shot to pieces, but I'm just getting on with it. The other option is that it drags on far longer.'

Indeed.

Op she's probably doing it already. So many threads on mn of entitled people doing exactly what they want. The thing is they want validation now, they want encouragement and others saying 'yayyy me too! fuck the government!'.

I have so many friends and family working in the nhs sickened by what a weak and self centred nation we seem to have become. You only had to watch the news conference yesterday to see what an utterly precarious position we're in but nope some can't hack it anymore despite all the exemptions with bubbles, end of life provision etc. We can only hope mn does not represent the majority. Although going by the numbers it seems there are so many out there doing exactly what they like.

[Mizzler]

Yes, compliance has been high. But it is a great way for the government to distract from their failings to try to imply that the problems we have are as a result of people not following the rules. That's not the case.

[ShinyS1]

The reason that we have endless lockdowns is because people don't stick to the rules and never have. I'm sick to the back teeth of lockdown, and people like your friend are really starting to grate.

Lets face it, a good chunk of the population are going wherever the hell they like and seeing whoever the hell they like.

The government have taken a lot of flack over this, but if the PM is telling people to stay home and they won't, what the fuck can you do?

[SaltyTootsieToes]

Some people are just selfish. More so than others.

[NailsNeedDoing]

At this point, after nearly a year or restrictions, it’s hardly surprising that people are losing the will to comply.

I really wish people would stop throwing the selfish accusation around. It makes no sense, especially when it comes from people that want to control others into doing what they think is best. It’s got to be more selfish to want to control other people’s behaviour than it is to just quietly get on with your own life while bending the rules slightly.

[peak2021]

Ex-friend as I hope she will be if it is other than a hollow threat.

[bathsh3ba]

@Covidcovid

Don’t get me wrong. I’m angry and worried about lock down consequences. I just don’t see any alternative. At some point the govt are going to have to answer as to why they underfunded the nhs to such an extent it couldn’t cope. Especially when they’ve been warned for ages that there’s always the possibility of a big pandemic. They did nothing to prep for it and hoped it wouldn’t happen.

If it was as simple as giving the NHS more money, then other countries would be doing much better than us and they are not. The NHS is a behemoth, it needs a rethink when all this is over. I'm not saying we should get rid of it or privatise it but we need to stop pretending that giving it more money would compensate for the massive demographic and public health challenge changes since it was set up. But for so many it is such a sacred cow that any reform is resisted so round the merrygoround we go.

[AaronPurr]

The reason that we have endless lockdowns is because people don't stick to the rules and never have. I'm sick to the back teeth of lockdown, and people like your friend are really starting to grate.

That's not the only reason though. Plenty of people were sticking to the rules at Christmas and during EOTHO.

[Wherediditgo]

Let her do what she needs to do. We all have a limit to what we can tolerate.

[Cam2020]

Don’t get me wrong. I’m angry and worried about lock down consequences. I just don’t see any alternative. At some point the govt are going to have to answer as to why they underfunded the nhs to such an extent it couldn’t cope.

This is happening everywhere, not just here! Most of Europe have been in and out of localised (of no national) lockdown or have kept strict curfew/measures all along, it's just not reported any more because there's no shock value in it it anymore. Not one country is equipped to deal with this.

[SomersetHamlyn]

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

don’t blame the general public, everyone’s tried their best.

Hollow laugh.

People have sacrificed their businesses their income their children’s education for the generation of your parents and quite frankly I personally don’t think it’s worth it

The most distressing thing about this whole nightmare has been finding out quite how many people are eager to condemn others to death because they consider their lives to be worthless.

Speaking as someone whose extended family were murdered in the ghettos and death camps within living memory, it really is appalling to see quite how little it takes for people like you to declare that other people should die because you don't think their lives are 'worth it'.

[Reglardez]

Why would you lockdown in the first place? The best way to keep your sanity is to ignore restrictions.

[Mizzler]

@NailsNeedDoing

At this point, after nearly a year or restrictions, it’s hardly surprising that people are losing the will to comply.

I really wish people would stop throwing the selfish accusation around. It makes no sense, especially when it comes from people that want to control others into doing what they think is best. It’s got to be more selfish to want to control other people’s behaviour than it is to just quietly get on with your own life while bending the rules slightly.

Yes, absolutely. It is just as selfish for people like @TinyTinaTriesAgain to try to insist that the whole of society shuts down to protect her parents.

[Lifeispassingby]

It makes me laugh when people say ‘I saw school kids together so thought if they can I can’ how stupid do you have to be to think this makes it ok?

[Forgetmenot157]

As one of the mps said the other day in the commons... People are at the end of what they can take and many ate about to snap... Regardless of how you feel, you don't know how others are coping.... If you imagine a single mum working full time in a small London flat while homeschooling 2 kids..... If that was me I would be at the very end of what I could handle and would judge them if they wanted to start seeing family etc.

[southeastdweller]

Good for her. I've had enough of this shite as well.

Have you spoken to her about how you feel?

[midgebabe]

Friend saying

I don't care if other people die
I don't care if the economy collapses because my actions mean that lockdown is extended
I don't care if we lose the NHS

And she's your friend?

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'The reason that we have endless lockdowns is because people don't stick to the rules and never have. I'm sick to the back teeth of lockdown, and people like your friend are really starting to grate'

Yes. I dont know anyone who isn't sick of the relentless misery. We all miss our normal lives, seeing family, friends and living without fear and dread but it is in everyone's interests to keep infection down.

Our dc want their lives back with all their activities but they understand the need for this as we parent them responsibly, supporting them and reassuring them.

I have compassion and empathy for everyone struggling but we all have a part to play and doing what you like is grossly irresponsible and of course totally selfish.

[EssentialHummus]

The reason that we have endless lockdowns is because people don't stick to the rules and never have. I'm sick to the back teeth of lockdown, and people like your friend are really starting to grate.

Or because people broadly follow the rules but they change (sometimes illogically), are inconsistent (scotch egg anyone?), aren’t adhered to by those in power (which way to barnard castle please?) etc etc. If schools are open to all because they’re safe then why is walking outdoors with a friend while holding a coffee a fineable offence? I do follow the rules but in practice I think that my not seeing my friends in groups of three or whatever makes the tiniest difference and that some opportunities to make a big difference aren’t being taken. I can see why some people hop from that to “Well, fuck it”.

[Cecily42]

@SomersetHamlyn, you are spot on there!

[trulydelicious]

I don't believe a word you are saying in your OP. All poorly made up. Sorry

[OnlyFoolsnMothers]

The most distressing thing about this whole nightmare has been finding out quite how many people are eager to condemn others to death because they consider their lives to be worthless. Speaking as someone whose extended family were murdered in the ghettos and death camps within living memory, it really is appalling to see quite how little it takes for people like you to declare that other people should die because you don't think their lives are 'worth it’
Cheap shot, but as you brought it up just because my relatives died in gas chambers (I’m Jewish too) doesn’t mean I have to accept countless restrictions and be grateful it’s not as bad.
Many people would rather be dead than see everything they have gone because they can’t earn a living and their children’s mental health plummet. People die, old people die- get lost guilt tripping people!

[ineedaholidaynow]

I’m assuming a number of the people who are in hospital are people who thought fuck it I am going to see family, especially over Christmas.