Friend saying she’s ignoring lock down from the end of the month.

[Covidcovid]

She’s always being very anti lockdown, citing mental health issues, etc and has just said from next week that’s it. She will do what she wants and take any fines.

I assume she just means visiting family because it’s not like she can go out for lunch or shopping. 🤷‍♀️

But I don’t understand her, she’s an intelligent person and an ex nurse. Her mum is currently very unwell in hospital with covid but she posted the other day that her mum has turned a corner and should hopefully be home soon. So surely she should see if it wasn’t for lockdown then there’s a risk people like her mum may not have got the treatment they needed because the hospitals would have likely being overwhelmed?

If it was me I’d be thankful there had been a lockdown because it wouldn’t have taken much more the way things were going for hospitals to not be able to,offer the current level of care......and in ICU even that isn’t optimal care with stretched ratios.

I understand your friend.

I am reaching my breaking point as well. We have followed restrictions so far and want to continue doing so to help bring numbers down but there is certainly a limit and I am very close to that.

@Perpetualheadache

I've been really strict on following lockdown rules but after another stint in isolation where my son's test results have been lost (again) I'm getting really fucked off with it.

I'm doing my bit and trying really hard but it's hard to want to keep doing it when a year in the testing system is a fucking joke and the government have only just shut the borders. They're taking the piss and we're all suffering as a result.

I look at NZ and want to cry. They're having festivals and I still can't see my mum.

Not sure how much longer we'll all be able to take this.

Matthew Wright said on This Morning that none of his families covid tests came back

I really don't understand why people want to act in ways that will prolong lockdown, let alone why they would tell everyone that's what they're going to do.

Can she not see how selfish and antisocial it would be?

I am going to start family visits too sorry. Covertly as actually in our police state it's a criminal offence

That doesn't surprise me. We've isolated loads of times and never had the tests back in the 48 hour time period they always promise. This time is tipping me over the edge. I'm so sick of being stuck inside and literally all I want to be able to do is my usual weekly shop. Hardly anything extravagant!!

Offering sympathy for all those reaching the end of their rope. You are not alone, and more and more people now feel this way.

@Covidcovid

Well her elderly dad lives with her elderly mum and he doesn’t seem to have caught it yet.

Won’t he have had the vaccine soon if not already?

It’s not great but it’s going to be hard once elderly have had vaccine

I don't really understand her.

If she is single, she is allowed to form a bubble with a household.

If she is not single, she needs to get on with the current rules like most people and stop being so selfish.

Sadly, it's all the people who think they can break the rules who are prolonging the lockdown for the rule-keepers- who are just as desperate to see their families.

Cases are not showing the result of Xmas mixing, and nothing's going to get any better the more people break rules.

I think they ought to be tagged as ASBOs- not fined!

You can only break rules if other people are happy to break them with you, so she’ll probably be quite limited in that sense. She’s perhaps just trying to shift her mindset a bit to ease her MH. Think a lot of people are really struggling at the moment.

This seems to be doing the rounds on social media (according to DD).

Previous lockdowns have largely been enforced by social pressure appealing to people's civic duty. I'd say many people have been less deterred by fines and more by social admonishment for being seen breaching the rules.

So it stands to reason that once it becomes socially acceptable to break the rules, people will feel more emboldened to do so. So I think it depends upon the company one keeps.

Furthermore, many people were staying in to protect the vulnerable, so it's natural that people will feel less concerned about the vulnerable now that those vulnerable people are being vaccinated. It seems natural that if people stay home for the sake of their gran and then their gran is then vaccinated, they would be less likely to pass the virus on to her and therefore sense less risk to gran.

I’m feeling like this today to be honest. I want my DD to go to school and I want to see my family whom I haven’t seen in months. Feel like I’m breaking.

citing mental health issues, etc

I'm guessing you aren't a good friend and assume she is using that as an excuse, rather than being honest? If I had a friend who knew the score, had a very poorly parent and was saying that I would be more worried than judgemental.

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Older people who are single can have a support bubble, as can anyone.

There is no one who has to be alone. The rules allow for mixing of single people.

People who break the rules are just selfish.

When I say elderly they’re certainly not over 80. Maybe over 70? Maybe late 60s so not sure when they’ll get the vaccine.

I’ve had the vaccine, I still have to follow the rules.

I do think there is a time limit on compliance to not being able to see family etc, the government has had nearly a year of people's lives; forced many businesses into insolvency, families into poverty, peoples mental health in tatters, those who need healthcare for other reasons to be neglected and some die. They have had time, they have fucked up at nearly every point and it's a disgrace. I blame them more than Doris next door who misses her family.

A significant number of people have never paid any heed to the rules from the beginning. They simply won't be told what to do. They aren't having wild parties and are protecting vulnerable family members but they are seeing their loved ones as and when they want to. They are in good mental health because they haven't suffered isolation.

All those posters who are at 'braking point'- yes, we all have families, some elderly, some long distance who we want to see.

But don't you GET it?

This wave is worse than last year. Hospitals are at breaking point.
Cancer ops are being delayed. People are dying from things other than Covid.

If people break the rules now, we are well and truly broken as a society as there is NO spare capacity in the NHS to treat anyone.

Just hang on in there and support people remotely.

People who say ‘I’m sick of it’ ‘I miss pubs’ ‘I want my kids back to school’ confuse me as they imply these are reasons to break lockdown without realising that breaking lockdown gives you some freedoms back but prolongs the other freedoms returning?

For how long thou @TinyTinaTriesAgain indefinite?

The reasoning behind 'The government has fucked up at every point' so 'we will just do what we want to now' is laughable.

Two wrongs make a right? Compound the mistakes by mixing and spreading it more?

I broke and now see my DP whenever I feel like it, including staying over.
I followed it to the letter last year, but the bullshit that occurred over the summer, and the fact that every day I drive past a secondary school where kids are hugging and pissing about made me decide I wasn't living that way any more.
I work, I stay at home, I see him. That's it. I will not live my life alone.
The people calling me selfish generally have a family. Yes, I get it, it's tough juggling homeschooling and wfh, but guess what? Crushing loneliness is tough too.
It's not a competition.

@yawnsvillex

For how long thou *@TinyTinaTriesAgain* indefinite?

Until the vaccine brings down deaths and hospital admissions.

Listen to the science.

And the longer people break the rules, the longer we are stuck like this.

Start blaming the rule breakers.

@ComDummings

Also the NHS collapsing is bollocks to me. If it does become overwhelmed whose fault is that really? The government. They’ve been cutting services to the bone for years and now it’s on the brink of collapse because of that. So I can’t blame individuals who are reaching the end of their tether.

If you can't get NHS services when you need them, being able to blame it on the government rather than people like OP's friend isn't exactly a comfort.

@Sillyduckseverywhere

I broke and now see my DP whenever I feel like it, including staying over. I followed it to the letter last year, but the bullshit that occurred over the summer, and the fact that every day I drive past a secondary school where kids are hugging and pissing about made me decide I wasn't living that way any more. I work, I stay at home, I see him. That's it. I will not live my life alone. The people calling me selfish generally have a family. Yes, I get it, it's tough juggling homeschooling and wfh, but guess what? Crushing loneliness is tough too. It's not a competition.

@Sillyduckseverywhere if you are single and live alone or with young children, you are allowed to meet one person as your support group.