Friend saying she’s ignoring lock down from the end of the month.

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She’s always being very anti lockdown, citing mental health issues, etc and has just said from next week that’s it. She will do what she wants and take any fines.

I assume she just means visiting family because it’s not like she can go out for lunch or shopping. 🤷‍♀️

But I don’t understand her, she’s an intelligent person and an ex nurse. Her mum is currently very unwell in hospital with covid but she posted the other day that her mum has turned a corner and should hopefully be home soon. So surely she should see if it wasn’t for lockdown then there’s a risk people like her mum may not have got the treatment they needed because the hospitals would have likely being overwhelmed?

If it was me I’d be thankful there had been a lockdown because it wouldn’t have taken much more the way things were going for hospitals to not be able to,offer the current level of care......and in ICU even that isn’t optimal care with stretched ratios.

Restrictions aren't going to be here in 10 years time!

I understand what you mean. But when people are at breaking point, hearing that it's all going to be ok in 10 years time isn't going to change their minds about seeing family / friends now.

SomersetHamlyn didn’t say they weren’t worth saving I said I don’t think they are worth this level of sacrifice and devastation. I don’t think it’s worth the delayed treatments for other illnesses because believe it or not there are other illnesses, the increase in mental health deterioration...no in my opinion it isn’t worth it.
The Nazis killed people, that’s not the same thing and being anti lockdown and you should be ashamed of yourself for belittling the plight of Jews in World War II

Has her dad been tested? Elderly people also can have it asymptomatically. Might be worth finding out.

I can see the logic if he can live with his wife, presumably sharing a bed and not social distancing, and yet not catch it from her when she had it bad enough to need treatment, then its unlikely he'd catch it from his DD popping over for a brew.

Its bizarre how many people have lived with someone who have covid but haven't caught it themselves. I do wonder if some people just are less susceptible to it. (Assume there's research being done behind the scenes)

There is no need for anyone to be lonely. Single people can have a support bubble.

I’m actually really sick of this. I am single, live alone, have a history of mental health problems. I’m eligible to form a support bubble. However, the only household I could bubble with is my mum, and she isn’t officially allowed to bubble with me anymore because she is supporting my sister with a newborn and severe PND.

People claiming “no need to be lonely if you follow the rules” are simply wrong.

Is she living alone?

I think I would have lost my mind by now if I had to be alone at home for months on end like this.

I with her to be honest. I've become immune to all the news and it just washes over me now. I fully admit to being selfish but I just don't care anymore. I'm still observing the rules by and large and haven't seen family in a long time but I'm going to take my own calculated risks at the moment. I work from home, get shopping delivered and rarely go out so if I want to head out three times a day for exercise (and drive to do so) then I will.

The government want us continue like this indefinitely

No it doesn't, probably for another couple of months or so, but not indefinitely. The restrictions go completely against the ethos of this government.

I think it is pointless arguing on these threads - people who have had enough and are now going to break lockdown won't be persuaded otherwise and those who will keep going for a little while longer aren't going to be persuaded otherwise either.

Hopefully by the summer we will be in a much better place.

And all of you posters saying they're sick of people using mental heath as an excuse, I've got news for you, we all have mental health, it's cyclical, it's not something that bypasses some people, we all have it. Your attitude towards it is appalling, and the main reason it's been stigmatised for so long.

Those with poor mental health, also have a correlation as to poor physical health long term. So the NHS-better have it's hard hat on because the mental health storm coming it's way will have nothing on covid.

Probably why her mum is in hospital with Covid.

I ended up with it simply by DH going into work. I could have easily killed my mother by following her selfish logic.

There seems to be a genetic component. They have identified some of the genes which is also leading to n ideas for treatment

if I want to head out three times a day for exercise (and drive to do so) then I will

I don't see anything wrong with that as you are not breaking any rules, and there isn't a limit on exercise, is there? I am in Wales, your rules might be different.

At what point does "I will do what I want " fall apart

I'll go out where I want
I'll see who I want
I'll take what I want ( known as stealing £
I'll kill who I want ( considered murder)
?

I have a feeling I'm reaching my own limit with it all too. I can hardly throw scorn on someone else if they feel that way.

In England it's limited to once a day

You should minimise time spent outside your home, but you can leave your home to exercise. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

People who break the rules are more likely to catch Covid and spread it to those around them. They will have a much more dreadful time than people who don’t. They are more likely to lose someone they know and more likely to know many who experience real life changing illness, or do so themselves. She’s taking a stupid path with a higher likelihood of unhappiness.

To me, it's laughable when people say 'I've had enough, I'm ignoring lockdown.'

It's a global pandemic. We all have to adjust. Most of us are doing our best.

Not sure what the rules are. I'm in England. I don't listen to the news anymore or keep up with the rules, just follow what others appear to be doing. Homeschool and working full time are recipes for a breakdown so if I want to drive 30 minutes to a national trust then I will. I generally abide by the stay at home thing and don't see my parents or go in houses but I got asked the other day if my coffee trip was essential. As far as I am concerned it is!

@Hailtomyteeth

To me, it's laughable when people say 'I've had enough, I'm ignoring lockdown.'

It's a global pandemic. We all have to adjust. Most of us are doing our best.

Why is it laughable? I'm doing my best to ignore it by doing what the hell I want despite many places being closed.

I feel like I'm suffocating. I am homeschooling a very tricky 5 year old grandson as my daughter single parent works full-time. I have multiple health issues and he has attachment issues due to abuse as a baby from his now estranged father. He was just starting to cope with school and loved his friends but now he's going backwards and starting to become aggressive again as a coping mechanism. My younger dd14 has severe anxiety issues and paranoia and is struggling to cope each day. She's been homeschooling for years anyway and we had a lovely life of meeting up with homeschool and other friends and visiting lots of places, now we feel trapped. We have been so fortunate not to have covid so far but we are desperately lonely and my sis in law and her children are really struggling and we can't even meet up to support each other. Its absolutely rubbish but I'm scared if we break the rules and one of us gets it we could end up really poorly. Not worried about the fines particularly and I am usually a law abiding citizen but feel its going to take alot to recover mentally from this especially the younger ones x

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'Yes, I often think "mental health" has become a convenient excuse for psychopaths who actually just couldn't care less about anybody. The giveaway is that they also minimise the fact that over hundred thousand people have died in UK and much more could die in the future'

Yes its become a universal catchphrase for doing what they want. I of course have every sympathy for anyone with genuine mental health problems but being bored and missing your family isn't a mental health condition.

Why don't they think of other people, how distressed so many will be who are scared yet read all the 'they can't stop me doing what I want' comments ????

All you've really said there is that one set of mh problems are more important than another set. They're not.

There's a very large difference between having had enough of all this and feeling depressed, and googling how many x tablets will kill you and counting what you've got in the house.

This is what so many people who claim "we're all fed up" or similar don't realise. It's really NOT the same for everyone.

I hate lockdown, but I live with a loving partner and DS, we're financially fine, and my mental health was good going into this. I want to see my family and friends, but I won't die without.

There were other times in my life where I was planning my suicide, even without lockdown there to push me over the edge. I fully support people breaking a law if it's the only thing that will save their life.

I am in the South East where the new variant is rife. Many people of all ages don't follow the rules- loads of Christmas mixing in Tier 4. The streets are full- it doesn't look or seem like we are in lockdown. People just don't get it or don't care. It's really worrying.

@5zeds

People who break the rules are more likely to catch Covid and spread it to those around them. They will have a much more dreadful time than people who don’t. They are more likely to lose someone they know and more likely to know many who experience real life changing illness, or do so themselves. She’s taking a stupid path with a higher likelihood of unhappiness.

Not neccesarily true. Someone who breaks the rules by I don't know, sitting 2m away in a garden, is probably not more likely to spread it than someone abiding by the rules who works in a hospital. Some of the rules don't really make any sense.

@sarahc336

Oh dear. Don't people like your friend realise the whole bloody country feel this exact way, it's not like we actively enjoy sitting in our houses and not seeing loved ones. Why does she and others like her feel they're untitled to break the rules whilst the rest of us stay at home? If we all broke the rules the nhs would just collapse. People like this just annoy me and I think I'd struggle to stay friends with sometime with that level of selfishness tbh. And quoting mental health, doesn't she think that by now most of the population are struggling in the exact same way? She's not that special now is she 😏

Exactly!

The NHS is struggling desperately to cope. Doctors and nurses are at the point of exhaustion. There are not enough beds to cope in some areas. The government is worse than useless and not offering any support to the people working on the frontline - just empty rhetoric as they plan how to sell it off and make a personal profit by it.

The economy is in a dreadful state - but won't get any better if people break lockdown too early and spread this awful disease even further.

EVERYBODY is sick of this. EVERYBODY just wants to go out and have a coffee and a chat, or enjoy a pint, or visit friends and relatives. EVERYBODY is suffering horribly, mentally, emotionally and financially.

But ignoring the recommendations is a stupid and totally selfish thing to do.

I couldn't break the rules even if I wanted to. There's nowhere to go, no entertainments, pubs or restaurants.
Everyone I know is being very careful so I can't invite myself into homes and plonk down on sofas, or force a hug on my grandmother.
I suppose I could make an unnecessary journey to buy something I don't need but there's not much fun in that.