Please, please people take this seriously

[ConcernedAuntie]

To all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there.

I have just had a phone call from my cousin and I am totally shaken. Her husband has died from Covid this morning. He was 48, a big strong bear of a man and has done manual outside work all his working life. He tested positive last Friday. I can't believe it. The only places he has been indoors is home and he collected a prescription for his MIL the previous Monday. He had two children 12 and 14. The whole family is devastated.

This is not the flu.

@Bitbusyattheminute please tell your dh to rest. Even if he feels better he needs to rest some more. I had it last year, was in bed for two weeks and it was over six months before I started to stop feeling so tired in the afternoons and another two before th chest discomfort mostly went. He needs to rest as it is so easy to go downhill again if he does too much.

@ConcernedAuntie. I am sorry for your families loss .

Ok, anyone saying "sorry for your loss BUT"...you're a massive tit. There's no but that can be attached to that comment.

I think unfortunately there are a lot of people who aren't taking it seriously. We live in quite a traditional rural area. We're late 30s/early 40s, so the youngest people around here by at least a decade. Most are 50s-80s. We are very careful (I'm CV). We really don't go out, except occasional emergency runs to the store, I wfh, dh works alone from a separate premises but sees no one either. Dc obviously home. But my neighbours who are certainly at much greater risk than any of us are, are traipsing about like all is normal. In and out of eat others houses, popping over for chats in each others gardens, having tradespeople in, gardeners, no one wearing masks or SD in anyway, off on dog walks, riding their horses together, etc. It's like it's completely normal times, except the few who do still work and aren't retired are wfh, but apparently that means more time to popping over to visit each other judging by movement of cars to different houses.

I have a number of friends my age who have been quite seriously ill with COVID (no underlying health conditions). One friend's dh who is an ICU nurse (so probably exposed to quite high viral load) was ventilated in ICU over the summer. He is still on supplemental oxygen. He's younger than me, mid 30s or so.

I'm sorry for your loss OP.

An in law's brother died of Covid aged 59 after picking it up in hospital. It's devastating.

I've taken it seriously since last January when the threads started to appear on here. Unfortunately, my DS caught it at school and it was alarming to see how quickly it spread across schools here.

I hope you can be there (albeit by phone) for your family

Sorry to hear this

Thank you for sharing as I def believe some are becoming complacent in my home town

Makes me so sad

I'm sorry for your loss OP. It was clearly very swift and shocking and that much harder to process for your family.

With regards to comments from others I really don't understand the rudeness and lack of sympathy to OP.

I'm also bemused by the idea that many people seem to have that you can know where you were infected. This is giving rise to some blame game where people get to be cross and judge with other people who they regard as are being bad for not observing the rules. But since it is often asymptomatic and the latest variant more infectious its very hard to know where the infection occurred - it could be from the pharmacy, the supermarket, from letters and parcels and take outs that are delivered, from petrol pumps and door handles and from the people you live with having any of these contacts.

My Dad whose 91 lives in fear of his nazi neighbour that if he contracted Covid she would blame him for bringing it into their apartment complex since she keeps sounding off about how she has seen no one and everyone else should be as strict as her. He has only me to visit him and is desperately low but fears her opprobrium. the hate for other people is invidious - no one deserves this. No one goes around blaming people for catching the flu.

Sorry for your loss.

I'm taking it very seriously. Especially this close to vaccine.

I hope they keep the schools closed for enough time to get the vaccine rolled out to all the vulnerable before letting it run rampant again.

We’re in a rural area. Can confirm had more visitors this lockdown than previous - in a normal year get maybe a few tens in a month. This time get about 150 at last count last weekend. I appreciate people have nowhere to go but this lockdown ALL were here breaking the rules thinking no one lives here (actually hamlets all round so we see). All were big groups, maybe half trespassing, one group trying to have a birthday party in the woods... there are lots still rule breaking. They increase the chances of passing it round themselves, then onto an unlucky sod like the OP knew. Sick of it, I can’t see us getting back to normal while we have superspreaders. We all want to see family and friends, sick of it

By the way... I think the “rural test” is an interesting one. Basically if you want to fuck about and break the rules and see everyone, it seems you drive to a rural place to do it and put the onus on us not to report you. Sick of it. In towns you probably think you’re all complying and bored of the messages of “please stick to the rules” - nope, we get loads out here pissing about, you just don’t know about it.

And they leave trash and literally shit in the country lanes. And had a few threaten us not to tell the police.

Balls just to correct that - they have not broken the law. The law does not say you cannot drive to have a walk. However I agree the state has chosen to give different guidance which is not legally binding however.

@OwMyNeck

Ok, anyone saying "sorry for your loss BUT"...you're a massive tit. There's no but that can be attached to that comment.

Staggered by some of these comments. Some of the most unpleasant I've ever seen on MN.

OP, I'm so sorry

I find it unbelievable that people are so ready to nit pick and argue that they can't see the message the OP is trying to give. I got a similar response when I wrote on here, in the coronavirus topic, about my experience with the virus. What i've found is that unless the virus has affected you or someone you know badly, you cannot understand how those bleating on about how it is not that dangerous unless you are old or sick can grate on us who have actually had to deal with it. I've got long covid, developed clots, CT scans are showing damage in lungs since I contracted the virus in October. I'm in my 30's, healthy weight with no serious underlying conditions. I was led to believe by the media that I should have only had a cold like illness. That was not the case. You can argue all you like but that is my personal experience and I too wish for people to know that you can never be complacent with this virus.

@ConcernedAuntie

To all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there.

I have just had a phone call from my cousin and I am totally shaken. Her husband has died from Covid this morning. He was 48, a big strong bear of a man and has done manual outside work all his working life. He tested positive last Friday. I can't believe it. The only places he has been indoors is home and he collected a prescription for his MIL the previous Monday. He had two children 12 and 14. The whole family is devastated.

This is not the flu.

So sorry for you loss.

@Bouledeneige

I'm sorry for your loss OP. It was clearly very swift and shocking and that much harder to process for your family.

With regards to comments from others I really don't understand the rudeness and lack of sympathy to OP.

I'm also bemused by the idea that many people seem to have that you can know where you were infected. This is giving rise to some blame game where people get to be cross and judge with other people who they regard as are being bad for not observing the rules. But since it is often asymptomatic and the latest variant more infectious its very hard to know where the infection occurred - it could be from the pharmacy, the supermarket, from letters and parcels and take outs that are delivered, from petrol pumps and door handles and from the people you live with having any of these contacts.

My Dad whose 91 lives in fear of his nazi neighbour that if he contracted Covid she would blame him for bringing it into their apartment complex since she keeps sounding off about how she has seen no one and everyone else should be as strict as her. He has only me to visit him and is desperately low but fears her opprobrium. the hate for other people is invidious - no one deserves this. No one goes around blaming people for catching the flu.

There is plenty of data from contact studies done worldwide. Supermarkets and pharmacies are not common sources of transmissions even prior to social distancing/masks. It's all inside households, workplaces, schools, meeting up with other people where you have extended close contact.

That is covering almost 100% of transmission, none of us are getting it from walking by someone in a supermarket not wearing a mask.

I'm not a covid denier just think lots of people are doing incorrect risk assessments. Tons of people are terrified of the supermarket but are still going over to visit family in another household for tea or have their nanny come in every day or prior to this latest lockdown had their children going to school or go to work daily and interact with their coworkers without a worry because it's not against the restrictions, or whatever else close contact.

Contact tracing studies done elsewhere have been able to identify close to 100% of the sources of transmission and they have all been extended close contact. There hasn't been any measurable amount of walking past someone on the street or in a supermarket who is infected and getting sick.

I'm so sorry. That is awful. Thanks for posting as too many people do not take it seriously.

I take it serious.

I see that a further 1820 died in the UK today - another record high death rate. However, I am CEV and doing all that I can. I don't know what others are doing to spread the virus apart from the ones discussed in newspapers - the people partying and continuing to mix. I cannot alter what they do. The death rate doesn't get through to some. No idea why some totally deny covid - they have to be pretty thick.

Waiting for my vaccine and hoping we all keep going and I continue to avoid the virus until then.

However, what I don't like is the stupid over the top posts that some have shared on here - that helps no one.

I assume to have died that fast he had sepsis.

Sepsis is a scary thing.

Condolences OP.

As for not taking it seriously, my mother claims all her neighbours are seeing relatives as if nothing is wrong. It's indoor mixing that's the issue.

@Beautifulbonnie

It’s awful OP. People saying your post doesn’t make sense. Looking out for any tiny discrepancy. Which is easily done when grieving. People are out to jump on anyone who says how bad this is

I’m friends with a lot of doctors. They’ve told me stay at home. No supermarkets. No nothing. This new variant is so so deadly.

Hugs op. Xxx if you ever want a friendly ear

Are you really 🙄

Very sorry for your loss.

I agree there have been loads of posts about people not taking this seriously. And perhaps these people are in a minority. But it only takes a small minority to be responsible for spreading this particular mutation.

It could be someone who is asymptomatic but careless, or like a case I heard of last week where the guy did not feel well but still went into the office . And spread it to 5 other people ( even though SD)

Who then took it home to their families .

Everyone has to act like they have it and treat every other person like they have it as well .

The worse I heard was a family who actually sent a child into school who had a positive test .

Honestly how can you account for people like that.

@Sorehandsandfeet

I remember a friend of mine who is CEV and living in Italy immediately researching everything he could and back in April he explained the virus can attack any organ in the body and lay off tiny tiny blood clots .

He has been terrified as he already has damaged lungs . He protects himself as much as possible but his wife still has to go to work . So he is still exposed to possibly catching it .

Research on long covid is going to take a long time I think .

OP didn't mention sepsis. I wouldn't assume that at all.