Please, please people take this seriously

[ConcernedAuntie]

To all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there.

I have just had a phone call from my cousin and I am totally shaken. Her husband has died from Covid this morning. He was 48, a big strong bear of a man and has done manual outside work all his working life. He tested positive last Friday. I can't believe it. The only places he has been indoors is home and he collected a prescription for his MIL the previous Monday. He had two children 12 and 14. The whole family is devastated.

This is not the flu.

I’m so sorry for your loss 🌸 the virus is very real. I am so scared about the virus!

Can I please reiterate for the hard of comprehension that my post was directed to "all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there", not to people who are doing their best to keep themselves and others safe by following the guidelines. I understand that it is possible to catch it from others who are following rules, but many are not. Not round here anyway. He said himself that he could not believe that so many people were in the chemists with no masks on. My point in posting was in the hope that just one person might give more thought to their actions.

In repsonse to those who thought that I meant he was obese by describing him as a bear of a man, I meant that he was tall, broad, strong and musclar by the nature of his work. I can't believe he is not going to hug me and swing me round ever again (even though I'm 67).

Many thanks to those sending condolences.

@RosieLemonade

Bored of these posts. I would say the vast vast majority of people take it very seriously and follow the rules. Those who do not will probably not be on this part of the Internet and will not change because of yourcousins husband who they don't know from Adam.

Why fucking read it then? And deign to comment?

Sorry for your loss op.

@IthinkIm

I'm sorry for your loss OP. There's so mean people on here at the moment.

I assume he thought he caught it from the pharmacy? His MIL must feel awful too.

I can (sadly) recommend an excellent charity that might be able to help his children come to terms with it. They're called www.winstonswish.co.uk. They worked miracles when we needed them.

Thank you, I will pass this on.

They haven't told his MIL he could have caught it in the pharmacy, they have just said they don't understand where he got it from.

Why have you ruled out his work OP as it spins much more likely to have caught it there than a minimal contact at a pharmacy

Not that it makes a difference as such but work would be my default thought

@Beautifulbonnie

Amazon fresh do bit deliver to my area. It isnt the magic cure all which mumsnet seems to think it is. Anyone who says they cant get a supermarket delicate slot on here are hounded by the "use amazon fresh, what's wrong with you" comment.

Well, they don't do grocery deliveries to all areas

I'm so sorry for your loss. Your family and you are in my thoughts.

@TheDailyCarbunkle

I'm very sorry for your loss but your post makes no sense.

Your cousin's husband was very very careful and still caught it and died. So how can 'taking it seriously' make any difference to anyone?

Because loads of people aren't taking it seriously. The aim is surely that someone reading this post, who is of a similar age and fitness, and not keeping to the guidance, will perhaps think twice upon hearing how a fit adult in their 40s sadly died. Many times I see on here people ignoring advice to stay at home and ridiculing people who do.

This new variant seems to spread so easily. Insane that people not taking precautions I agree but slightly unfair to tarnish those that catch it with the “not being careful” brush I know people who have been very cautious but still caught it. It’s kind of magical thinking that if you do all the right things you are protected sadly it’s not the case.

@ConcernedAuntie I am really really sorry, and that is tragic news.

However I fear that people won't tale heed of your advice. Only if/when someone close to them dies, will they actually start taking covid19 seriously.

@Same4Walls

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I'm sorry for your loss and I appreciate you are still hurting snd in shock but you honestly have absolutely no eay of knowing that the person he caught it from wasn't following the rules. For you to imply that the person he caught it from had it because they were not s rule follower is disingenuous and ubfiar. You are still able to catch the virus even if you follow every rule to the letter.

You are MUCH more likely to catch it if you don't follow the guidance. This post is obviously intended to warn people that even if you are fit and young, you can still die from COVID and to therefore encourage people to stay safe.

@borntohula

Flu is also a killer and should be taken seriously in case anyone has it and was thinking 'it's just the flu, it'll be fine to spread.'

But in much smaller numbers and doesn't it overwhelm the NHS to anything like the extent COVID has.

You may not have achieved what you set out to initially with this post OP, however we now have a detailed list of all the nasty, heartless arseholes who post on the site.

I'm very sorry for your loss x

Are there still some people around who don't understand that we take precautions to protect others as much as ourselves? It would appear so, going from this thread. It's about preventing transmission if we're infected without knowing it, ie being asymptomatic or presymptomatic. That's why the OP is asking people to be careful.

My condolences, OP.

I hope everyone has an oxymeter in their house. It is very important to go to the hospital when the levels of oxygen in the blood start to fall.

@Pastanred

Why have you ruled out his work OP as it spins much more likely to have caught it there than a minimal contact at a pharmacy

Not that it makes a difference as such but work would be my default thought

He works outside, in estate management. Gardening, looking after livestock and suchlike. Works mainly alone getting instruction from the estate office by phone or email. Rarely goes into the office. Out in all weathers.

[quote littlepattilou]@ConcernedAuntie I am really really sorry, and that is tragic news.

However I fear that people won't tale heed of your advice. Only if/when someone close to them dies, will they actually start taking covid19 seriously.[/quote]
I agree. Wish I had never posted.

I'm out.

@Pastanred

Op hasn’t said he’s been in all the time

Sorry for your loss op

But big bear suggests overweight and you said he does manual outside work

It’s very likely he picked it up at work as (presuming here) building sites/construction etc are not the cleanest and often staff do sit indoors, in their cars etc to eat lunch etc

They share tools and equipment

It’s not exactly a low risk job despite outdoors - most outdoor jobs are not clean

I know a few construction people who caught it at work

There is very minimal spread from strangers in public places. We are all so concerned with what strangers are doing but in reality we are most likely to get it behind closed doors from our coworkers, children or family we are still allowed to see, classmates, etc. People we still are spending extended periods of time with. If someone is not working from home and no one else in their household has been infected then it's close to 100% chance they got it from work. I understand taking this seriously but part of taking this seriously means understanding where the actual risk lies and it's not from a stranger in a supermarket.

@Ori2021

To all those posters sniping away with the emotional intelligence of a teaspoon - the correct response here is "I'm very sorry for your loss. Condolences to you and to his family."

FFS

This. I am sorry for your family's loss OP and also sorry about the utter shit you've had to wade through on this thread.

I’m so sorry.

I cannot actually believe there are covid deniers, who were those maniacs outside the hospital demonstrating against....what, exactly? People being sick? Do they really think it’s a worldwide conspiracy? There are some serious nutters out there.

I know of 2 men with no previous health issues both young, 48 and other early fifties that are in intensive care right now. Try and remember this on your weekly family outings to the supermarket.

@ConcernedAuntie please don't leave the thread.

There are far more lovely people on here than not.

Also, I just found this story on yahoo. A young las lose both parents to Covid19 within 9 days. Awful.

Whoops. Link...

uk.yahoo.com/style/daughter-plea-covid-seriously-losing-172426847.html

I don't personally know anyone who has died of Covid19 thankfully, but I know 4 or 5 people (neighbours, DD, and a friend,) who know someone who has had it, and a couple who have died from it.

DD's boyfriend's cousin has it right now, and my neighbour's aunt has it (both in hospital with it...)

Also, my friend who lives 20 miles from me, has lost her uncle to it. He was 59. And my next door neighbour has lost her brother-in-law. He was 49. So it is taking/affecting younger people now!