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Please, please people take this seriously

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ConcernedAuntie · 20/01/2021 11:54

To all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there.

I have just had a phone call from my cousin and I am totally shaken. Her husband has died from Covid this morning. He was 48, a big strong bear of a man and has done manual outside work all his working life. He tested positive last Friday. I can't believe it. The only places he has been indoors is home and he collected a prescription for his MIL the previous Monday. He had two children 12 and 14. The whole family is devastated.

This is not the flu.

OP posts:
Dippysauceus · 20/01/2021 12:58

Those with an agenda keep pushing it at the expense of their humanity. They should be ashamed.

Agree.

OP - I am so sorry for your loss.

themarchare · 20/01/2021 12:59

So sorry for your loss op. And so sorry for the awful response you're getting from some posters on here.

The OP clearly isn't attributing the blame for her relative passing away to a particular stranger passing it to him having not followed the rules. Otherwise she'd also be attacking said relative for not following the rules! No-one knows how he got it or how the person that gave it to him got it, so calm down. They're saying the less people that follow the rules, the more it's going to spread. Would've thought it hard to argue with that really yet here we are.

Thanks op.

TwelvePaws · 20/01/2021 13:01

The key part of this is potentially. Personally I can't believe anyonest is still assuming anyone who has covid is not following the rules, not wearing a mask or going out with symptoms etc. Most people who have caught covid are following the rules, being sensible and doing the right thing and to think otherwise is just nonsense.

I know of 4 schools who have had to send kids home because parents have sent them in with coughs and temperatures. There are so many people dismissing their symptoms as a bit of a cold’ and not getting tested. I know people who are refusing to have track and trace because they don’t want to have to isolate. This is happening.

Beautifulbonnie · 20/01/2021 13:03

I'm not spreading alarmist information

The new variant. According to the doctors I know. Is taking them to breaking point. There aren't enough ecmo machines to help the dying. There isn't enough space

The new variant spreads more easily. Which means more people get sick. Which means more people dying.

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user1497207191 · 20/01/2021 13:04

@TheDailyCarbunkle

I'm very sorry for your loss but your post makes no sense.

Your cousin's husband was very very careful and still caught it and died. So how can 'taking it seriously' make any difference to anyone?

Because people who aren't taking it seriously are spreading it in places like shops and chemists where others still have to go into.
MaelyssQ · 20/01/2021 13:04

I am so sorry to hear of your bereavement. I echo the point you are making - keep yourselves safe, people. Essential shopping only, masks, hand sanitiser, 2 metres distance from everyone.

Covid affects people differently - I was really unwell for a while, my husband had absolutely no symptoms.

Thankfully we both got through it unscathed, but a lot of people don't. The breathlessness for me was the most alarming symptom, I have never had respiratory problems in my life until Covid.

I can see how someone can go from being perfectly healthy to being incredibly unwell to losing their life, in a matter of days.

TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/01/2021 13:05

@ConquestEmpireHungerPlague

I know loads of people who aren't taking it seriously. I think OP's point is that if everyone was, there'd be less of it circulating generally, and her cousin's DH might never have caught it. Reasonable point, I'd have thought - not sure why so many pp are acting like it's a bizarre concept. This is a textbook example of how unpredictable Covid's effects are and why all the people (on other threads) saying they're not worried because they're under 40 and in good shape are being a bit dim. Awful for his family. Flowers for you, OP, and for everyone who has lost someone, and for everyone who has had a traumatic ICU experience, and for everyone who has been feeling exhausted or unwell for months despite having it 'mildly' by comparison, and for everyone in the NHS who is on their last legs.
It's bizarre because there seems to be a belief that you can somehow permanently avoid a highly contagious virus that is present in almost the entire world for the rest of your life, by 'taking it seriously' whatever the fuck that means. There are millions of people who were very very serious about it and still got it. The vast vast majority of them are fine. There are many billions more who will get it in the future. 'Taking it seriously' isn't some sort of magical protection, no matter how people might wish it was.
waterlego · 20/01/2021 13:05

ConcernedAuntie I am so very sorry for your loss.

Beautifilbonnie,

I feel for anyone working in the health service at the moment, and those Drs you know are undoubtedly working very hard under very difficult circumstances.

However, there is no evidence that the newer strains are more ‘deadly’.

And re supermarkets- nice idea to avoid them but how do you propose people buy food? Please don’t say home delivery- I haven’t been able to get one since the start of the pandemic.

Beautifulbonnie · 20/01/2021 13:05

@TheDailyCarbunkle

So if I gave you 100 jellybeans and said 2 would kill you. Would you like risk eating then?

TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/01/2021 13:06

@Beautifulbonnie

I'm not spreading alarmist information

The new variant. According to the doctors I know. Is taking them to breaking point. There aren't enough ecmo machines to help the dying. There isn't enough space

The new variant spreads more easily. Which means more people get sick. Which means more people dying.

Yes it spreads more easily. It is not however 'so, so deadly.'
Spiratedaway · 20/01/2021 13:06

@DioneTheDiabolist

I know how you feel OP, tomorrow I will be standing outside a church as the funeral of my friend's father happens. He died of Covid 5 days after being admitted to hospital, he'd only tested positive 2 days before. Her brother is in a terrible state as he had it first. He blames himself.Sad On Friday my BiL's uncle will be buried, his other uncle is in intensive care.

The attitudes of some posters on here show that people aren't taking it seriously.

Condolences OP.Flowers

That is awful to feel that guilty poor family x
ClangingChimesofDoom · 20/01/2021 13:06

So sad to see how this whole situation brings out the worst in some people.

Its just awful OP. I would stay off Mumsnet at this time though - it really isn't a kind place.

Same4Walls · 20/01/2021 13:07

I know of 4 schools who have had to send kids home because parents have sent them in with coughs and temperatures. There are so many people dismissing their symptoms as a bit of a cold’ and not getting tested. I know people who are refusing to have track and trace because they don’t want to have to isolate. This is happening.

Yes you may know some people not following the rules but for everyone of them not following and catching covid there will be many more doing the right thing and still catching it. My point wasn't that everyone was following the rules you'll never get 100% compliance for any rule.

Nevertheless the idea that everyone who has caught it is a covidiot rule breaking fool isn't fair or accurate. It's exceptionally unhelpful for people to presume the only way to catch it is by not following the rules.

Beautifulbonnie · 20/01/2021 13:08

I do apologise. I worded it wrong!

You're right. It's not more deadly. It's more easily spread. But a virus that kills people. Healthy people. Will have death rates rise if it's spread to more people. As we've seen.

HmmSureJan · 20/01/2021 13:09

I can't believe what I am reading on this thread. OP probably in shock and has posted to try to off load some of her fear and pain and being nit picked at. Shameful.

I'm so sorry OP, what dreadful news for you and awful for his immediate family.

Beautifulbonnie · 20/01/2021 13:10

@waterlego

ConcernedAuntie I am so very sorry for your loss.

Beautifilbonnie,

I feel for anyone working in the health service at the moment, and those Drs you know are undoubtedly working very hard under very difficult circumstances.

However, there is no evidence that the newer strains are more ‘deadly’.

And re supermarkets- nice idea to avoid them but how do you propose people buy food? Please don’t say home delivery- I haven’t been able to get one since the start of the pandemic.

Amazon don't deliver to yoh?
TwelvePaws · 20/01/2021 13:11

Same4Walls

These people are potentially spreading it to others who are being careful.

Nevertheless the idea that everyone who has caught it is a covidiot rule breaking fool isn't fair or accurate. It's exceptionally unhelpful for people to presume the only way to catch it is by not following the rules.

This is not a belief I have. I think people not following the rules are more likely to spread it to everyone else.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 20/01/2021 13:12

That's dreadful, I'm so sorry for you and your family. This is happening everywhere, I have elderly patients who have lost their middle aged children recently and are devastated.

TwelvePaws · 20/01/2021 13:12

Anyway, I think this is all inappropriate. The OP has lost a young relative.

Scbchl · 20/01/2021 13:12

Sorry for you and your families loss.

OliveTree75 · 20/01/2021 13:13

Nevertheless the idea that everyone who has caught it is a covidiot rule breaking fool isn't fair or accurate. It's exceptionally unhelpful for people to presume the only way to catch it is by not following the rules.
Exactly. My friends dad is on a CPAP machine. He has COPD and has been shielding. He caught it off his wife, who caught it at a doctors appoinment (she thinks). Were they not taking it seriously enough? The idea that you can only catch it from rule breakers is ludicrous. You could catch it from the pre symptomatic masked up man infront of you in the chemist who has no idea he will be ill tomorrow or from an asymptomatic woman in the supermarket. Most people are being careful!

Lovemusic33 · 20/01/2021 13:14

Sorry for your loss OP Flowers

I am one of those that hasn’t been too worried about covid up until now, the new variant is definitely effecting more younger people and those who don’t have underlying conditions, there’s a lot of people in hospital now who are close to my age 30’s/40’s, it’s no longer just the elderly and frail that are dying. People need to take this seriously and think before they leave their house (do they need to go?).

MimiDaisy11 · 20/01/2021 13:14

Sorry for your loss. It's amazing you still get people who don't get that their actions affect others. They're still saying I'm healthy and fine and don't care if I get it.

That said I do think most people are making an effort. Hopefully, the vaccine will stop all this.

Ch3rish · 20/01/2021 13:15

@Beautifulbonnie

I'm not spreading alarmist information

The new variant. According to the doctors I know. Is taking them to breaking point. There aren't enough ecmo machines to help the dying. There isn't enough space

The new variant spreads more easily. Which means more people get sick. Which means more people dying.

More people are dying but the death rate doesn't appear to be getting higher as I understand it

The message is still the same to take it seriously but it's not right to post fake information