Please, please people take this seriously

[ConcernedAuntie]

To all those covid deniers and mask refusers out there.

I have just had a phone call from my cousin and I am totally shaken. Her husband has died from Covid this morning. He was 48, a big strong bear of a man and has done manual outside work all his working life. He tested positive last Friday. I can't believe it. The only places he has been indoors is home and he collected a prescription for his MIL the previous Monday. He had two children 12 and 14. The whole family is devastated.

This is not the flu.

There's a lot of people who have died with Covid which is not the same as dying of Covid. I think it's important to bear this in mind.

Sorry for your loss OP.

To the PP who says she will be standing outside her friend's father's funeral tomorrow - do you not see the irony of posting this? Please do not do this. The numbers are restricted for a reason; people should not gather outside!!

@TwelvePaws

Same4Walls

These people are potentially spreading it to others who are being careful.

Nevertheless the idea that everyone who has caught it is a covidiot rule breaking fool isn't fair or accurate. It's exceptionally unhelpful for people to presume the only way to catch it is by not following the rules.

This is not a belief I have. I think people not following the rules are more likely to spread it to everyone else.

If you follow any "chain of infection", you'll almost certainly find rule breakers. It's not necessarily the person who gave covid to you, it may be the person to gave it to them who had disregard for the rules.

As has been mentioned many times over the months, controlling covid is all about breaking the "chains of infections" which means everyone reducing the numbers of people they come into close contact with.

Nothing is 100% safe, but everyone reducing their contacts will inevitably mean more broken chains of infections. It's not a matter of what's allowed and what's not allowed, it's about everyone meeting fewer people, spending less time with them, going to fewer places, etc. The more people who do that, the more broken chains of infections.

[quote Beautifulbonnie]@TheDailyCarbunkle

So if I gave you 100 jellybeans and said 2 would kill you. Would you like risk eating then? [/quote]
Oh fer fuxsakes, enough with the jelly bean memes. It is not a useful analogy. The case fatality rate varies vastly between countries and age groups, while the most important measure - the infection fatality rate - is as yet unknown because not everyone who gets infected is tested. For this reason it is likely to be lower than current estimates, and not 2%.

OP, I am truly sorry about you and your cousin's loss. Just awful. X

RosieLemonade

Be sure to ask Santa for some tact in your stocking this year.

Out of everyone I know, the most concerned I am is for my DH. He's 48, a bear of a man but he is a bloke who catches everything going. It seems to hit them very, very hard if they are middle aged and a bit on the plump side.

I take it seriously, but I take it more seriously now. I have had an elderly relative die of it too back in lockdown1.

I wear a mask when out and I don't break rules. However, I don't rest on my laurels WRT supermarkets. I have worked in one and they are filthy, no matter how end they market themselves. I never take the cleanliness of my trolley or checkout as a given and take my own stuff to clean it. As said, I've worked in one and have listened to the pushback on having to do things like this and so do it myself.

YOU are responsible for your own safety. Don't take it as a given that others are doing it on your behalf.

@Ranald

There's a lot of people who have died with Covid which is not the same as dying of Covid. I think it's important to bear this in mind.

Sorry for your loss OP.

But most wouldn't have died if they didn't have covid? I really hate it when people say this

Sorry for your loss

Whist many people are sticking to the rules, not going out/wfh etc there are still many people who aren't.

I know part of my family (made of 4 households) who haven't changed anything about their routines, they have carried on as normal because they think the usual covidiot trope.

The galling thing is that they all went down with Covid around Christmas AND WENT OUT GIFT SHOPPING KNOWING THEY WERE POSITIVE.

I'd be naïve if I thought they were the only ones behaving like this!!!

Amazon don't deliver to yoh?

Do you mean the Morrisons stuff on Amazon? I have done that a couple of times but the last two times I’ve tried have not succeeded in getting a delivery slot, no.

I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m also sorry to see some of the responses you’ve had to your post. It’s incredibly scary that younger people without underlying health conditions are dying. Thank you for sharing, we are very much so staying at home at the moment because we are lucky enough that we are able to but posts like this act as a reminder of just how easy it is to pick up covid no matter how careful people are and remind people that even the smallest of unnecessary interactions or trips carry risk. I hope your cousin has lots of support it’s heartbreaking to hear of children loosing parents to this, as it is to hear of anyone dying from covid.

So sorry for your loss op

@Same4Walls

Because he potentially got it from someone else not taking it seriously!

The key part of this is potentially. Personally I can't believe anyonest is still assuming anyone who has covid is not following the rules, not wearing a mask or going out with symptoms etc. Most people who have caught covid are following the rules, being sensible and doing the right thing and to think otherwise is just nonsense.

You would be surprised - it is a minority, but I still meet patients who watched 10% of their dialysis cohort die last spring, and still think covid is a hoax and the vaccine has microchips. And I have neighbours, in Lambeth, which has had lots of cases, who parrot the “no worse than flu” shit.

There are plenty of people who are not following the rules.

My local Tesco Monday night, a couple in their 30’s with a young girl who looked around 13, all maskless. Bloke coughed as I passed him and they were talking loudly and laughing. They seemed to want everyone to notice they didn’t have masks on to show off how hard they were.

Supermarket manager said he’d asked them to put on masks, even given them some for free but they were refusing and there was nothing else he could do as the bloke looked like he wanted a fight. He’d also asked them to get the girl out of the trolley as she was laying in it, coughing in it, but they ignored him.

While they are cunts like this around, the new super variants will continue to spread.

I’m sorry for your family’s loss OP.

That's dreadful news, ConcernedAuntie, I am very sorry. What a loss and shock for the family.

I haven't come across much in the way of Covid deniers on here, to be fair. On the whole we take it very seriously and are being as careful as we can.

You take care,

I don’t know anyone who isn’t “taking it seriously

Really? Plenty of posters here wittering on about how lockdowns aren't neccessary, masks make no difference, how its only old people dying anyway so who cares....they aren't taking it seriously.

To all those posters sniping away with the emotional intelligence of a teaspoon - the correct response here is "I'm very sorry for your loss. Condolences to you and to his family."

FFS

@SeasonFinale, I will not be gathering with anyone. I will not be standing near anyone. I will not be a risk to anyone and no one will be a risk to me.

But I will be there as she enters and leaves the church because she has asked me to be there.

Sorry for your loss OP. It's shocking when it's so close to home.

Quarantine needs to be extended a family member had it and all the house did 11 days. Her husband was out and about for 2 days and today he is very poorly with it

Oh op l am so very very sorry, those children are of a similar age to mine, the very thought of their loss is beyond heartbreaking.And that of his wife.

Sadly you cannot reason with stupid and there are many who always think the rules don't apply to them, but highlighting the shock of his death is still important as it may make one person think twice about their next uneccesary trip, and that may prevent another infection.

So very sorry for your loss.