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I'm not a denier or anything but this got me thinking

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HoppingOnSteppingStones · 18/01/2021 21:37

A covid denier in know posted on FB. If there's so many deaths. Why aren't we seeing loads of private ambulances, funerals etc about.
I live very close in fact I can see the local main hospital from my house. And often see the private ambulances leaving the hospital. Haven't seen any in months
My pil live less than 3min on the same road as the crematorium and said they don't see a huge increase in services.

I'm honestly not denying anything. I totally know covid exists etc but that did get me thinking.
And im sure someone has a perfectly logical explanation on here.

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EloraaDanan · 19/01/2021 09:49

You see bodies being driven from hospital all the time but you don’t know it. They don’t all get picked up in private ambulances or hearses. Most people are picked up in unmarked vans. The entrance to the mortuary isn’t publicly known and is often out of the way. Once the body has been put in the van, out of the way of prying eyes, you’d never know it’s there.

Simply put, random people’s deaths are none of your business, so no, you won’t see.

Sophagain · 19/01/2021 09:51

I thought death rates across the board were down?

CoxwellHuge · 19/01/2021 10:00

On the subject of whether a persons death is recorded as by covid or with covid, we lost my FIL in December. Covid was listed as a contributory factor in his death but not the main reason. He was in a nursing home, and had a diagnosis of vascular dementia. We only managed to see him twice between March and September last year, but he was honestly looking in better health than he had done for the two years previously. I don't believe for a second that he would've died last year if he hadn't caught covid. So while it was acknowledged to be a contributing cause of death, for us we believe it should have been the primary cause of death.

Al1langdownthecleghole · 19/01/2021 10:05

"I thought it was all a conspiracy" will look great on a gravestone.

apric0t · 19/01/2021 10:09

My grandmother died last week (not COVID related) and we are waiting five weeks for her funeral as everywhere is so booked up that's the soonest they could do it!

Bookriddle · 19/01/2021 10:16

Yeah my missus is a critical care nurse, she got an email last year off the goverment, to pretend there is a virus going round and to pretend they are extremly busy to the point of breaking point!

The goverment has promised all nurses a 20k pay rise each........

unmarkedbythat · 19/01/2021 10:16

"thinking"
Hmm

Hobbesmanc · 19/01/2021 10:25

They've never posted again. I'm tired of these vague conspiracy threads- makes you think they are just bots

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/01/2021 10:26

@Al1langdownthecleghole

"I thought it was all a conspiracy" will look great on a gravestone.
Grin
SabrinaMorningstar · 19/01/2021 10:27

@Hobbesmanc

They've never posted again. I'm tired of these vague conspiracy threads- makes you think they are just bots
I think MNHQ needs a much more robust policy for them tbh. The Covid threads on here are a disgrace.
Joyce19A · 19/01/2021 10:29

I'd really recommend watching this moving musical video, it's about a grandmother in lockdown.

Timeontimeoff · 19/01/2021 10:30

Have a biscuit @HoppingOnSteppingStones

Biscuit

Then look at the ONS statistics for overall deaths in the UK for 2020. Then wobble your head a bit and stop pretending not to be a covid denier.

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HoppingOnSteppingStones · 19/01/2021 10:30

Thanks for all the responses.
Funnily enough juts got back from shopping and the family opposite currently have a funeral. There's the hurse and 6 black cars. And many people coming out of his house. But I can honestly say that's the 1st I've even seen for so long

It was just one of those things that make me wonder. That was all.

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HoppingOnSteppingStones · 19/01/2021 10:32

I am honestly not a conspiracy theorist, denier or whatever.
I actually fell asleep last night after posting.

It was just one of those things I read

I know very much covid is real. As I stated.

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Bluntness100 · 19/01/2021 10:36

I read all sorts of things. Including elvis is alive and working as a gardener in Graceland. I don’t feel the need to start working out if it’s true..😂

mrsnec · 19/01/2021 10:41

My great aunt died recently. She was 93. She was covid positive a couple of weeks ago but had no symptoms of that.

My DH is a non believer. When she died he said 'that's another covid statistic then

They put her cancer as the cause of death. But my DH's response to that was 'that's just the Welsh trying to make their figures look better.

My point is, I genuinely believe some of these people won't understand the situation unless they get it themselves.

Madhairday · 19/01/2021 10:48

@Sophagain

I thought death rates across the board were down?
I wouldn't say 85,000 excess deaths over the average of the past five years was 'down.' Some deaths are lower, eg flu and car accidents, which are both a direct result of covid measures - flu not spreading due to social distancing, masks, not mixing (not as wildly contagious or deadly as Covid) and car accidents down due to not going out as much.

Still 85,000 more deaths than usual, though. And that's not counting December.

Catty1720 · 19/01/2021 11:17

Do people that write this stuff never stop to think of all the families that have lost someone to covid? The nhs workers,the public transport workers,the police,the shop workers???
It makes my blood boil!!!! All I hear lately is sirens!!
You can’t attend funerals my nan died and I had to watch the ceremony online!
How are people still not believing this is happening!!!

acatcalledjohn · 19/01/2021 11:23

@mrsnec

My great aunt died recently. She was 93. She was covid positive a couple of weeks ago but had no symptoms of that.

My DH is a non believer. When she died he said 'that's another covid statistic then

They put her cancer as the cause of death. But my DH's response to that was 'that's just the Welsh trying to make their figures look better.

My point is, I genuinely believe some of these people won't understand the situation unless they get it themselves.

I'm sorry about your loss.

You DH is a twat though, changing the narrative to suit any conspiracy theory he can think of.

acatcalledjohn · 19/01/2021 11:24

About? I meant to type for. I'm sorry for your loss.

Gah.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 19/01/2021 11:25

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-one-in-eight-had-coronavirus-in-england-by-december-last-year-survey-estimates-12192323

At least one in eight people in England had had COVID-19 by December last year, new survey data estimates.

Tuesday 19 January 2021 11:11, UK

HeronLanyon · 19/01/2021 11:26

Op - a quick sort of apology for my 60 denier ‘joke’ earlier. Couldn’t be personal because I don’t know you. Got carried away with how clever I thought the joke was. Apols if you were upset/offended - have never Made such a comment before even where I do think the op might be thick or opaque !

Notanorthadontist · 19/01/2021 11:29

MNHQ are complicit in promoting batshit conspiracy theories by not closing those threads when they’re all too quick to close others.

Notanorthadontist · 19/01/2021 11:32

By the way OP I realise this is not one, but you’re heading might suggest that it is and offer encouragement to people who still persist in promoting conspiracies and vaccine suspicions.

acatcalledjohn · 19/01/2021 11:35

This post by a professor is an interesting insight in to why conspiracy theories stick in people's minds.