I'm not a denier or anything but this got me thinking

[HoppingOnSteppingStones]

A covid denier in know posted on FB. If there's so many deaths. Why aren't we seeing loads of private ambulances, funerals etc about.
I live very close in fact I can see the local main hospital from my house. And often see the private ambulances leaving the hospital. Haven't seen any in months
My pil live less than 3min on the same road as the crematorium and said they don't see a huge increase in services.

I'm honestly not denying anything. I totally know covid exists etc but that did get me thinking.
And im sure someone has a perfectly logical explanation on here.

[Flippyferloppy]

"There's no denying it here" - sorry

[Flippyferloppy]

We live near a church and there is a funeral every day, sometimes 2 or 3. It's grim.There's no denying it here!

[ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia]

0.1 million plus already....

news.sky.com/story/uk-coronavirus-deaths-pass-100-000-latest-figures-suggest-12199119

Stay safe all and always mask (not necessary double mask new American administration style) and check your potential Covid footprint as better being a part of the solution than cause as that way we can finally get through this eventually and not ongoing prolonged perpetual cycles of quasi lockdowns.

[inquietant]

[quote FreshFreesias]@Em777 OP is not a ‘Corvid denier’ as you put it, she’s just asking genuine questions based on her experience.[/quote]
'genuine questions' are what all conspiracy theorists ask.

Covid scepticism is just another conspiracy theory.

[rosetylersbiggun]

@Em777 OP is not a ‘Corvid denier’ as you put it, she’s just asking genuine questions based on her experience.

Oh bullshit, she's clearly a Covid denier. Covid deniers often try to couch their goadiness in terms of 'just asking an innocent question!"

The OP says flat out that the 'questions' came from "reading something a Covid denier I know posted on Facebook." So they aren't even her questions, but the questions of a known Covid denier. (Why is the OP even friends with and paying attention to someone she herself describes as a "Covid denier"?). The OP started the thread to say "A Covid denier I know said this and I think they might be right." Come on, that's not even subtle.

Besides her reports of "personal experience" doesn't add up if you look at them with an ounce of logic. The OP claims to have not seen a single ambulance leaving the local hospital in months. What, does the OP think that all heart attacks, strokes, accidents, car crashes, have just completely stopped? Presumably the OP doesn't live in some kind of X Files town that's discovered the secret to immortality. Either the OP is genuinely unobservant and not too hot on logical thinking, or she's overegging the pudding.

The part about "but isn't it weird that big funeral processions have vanished at the exact same time big funerals have been banned???" is so laughable isn't worth bothering about, though bringing in a relative who allegedly witnessed yet more of this 'proof' is a nice touch.

[CandyLeBonBon]

@amicissimma

The figures announced each day aren't the number of deaths on one day. Some of them are from months ago.

The trend is real enough but the numbers aren't a totally accurate picture of what's going on each day.

It was reported today that there were 1100 deaths on a single day

[amicissimma]

The figures announced each day aren't the number of deaths on one day. Some of them are from months ago.

The trend is real enough but the numbers aren't a totally accurate picture of what's going on each day.

[FreshFreesias]

@Em777 OP is not a ‘Corvid denier’ as you put it, she’s just asking genuine questions based on her experience.

[TurquoiseDragon]

@Chocolatepeanuts

DH is in the funeral industry. He had 5 covid funerals last week, small NI village where on average he'd have a funeral every other week.

Also the dead aren't taken home for a wake, he doesn't collect the the dead from hospital in a hearse, theres no funeral procession. He collects them in a van you wouldn't look twice at before transferring them.

This reminds me that when mum was collected from home after she died, the van was a nondescript black transit with no windows, a van you'd never look twice at. Hearse was only used for the actual funeral.

So it's highly probable that people are seeing the vans going around everywhere without actually realising they are carrying the deceased.

[cocodomingo]

The bodies remain in the morgue because the administrative processes take time..doctors are rushed off their feet saving people, the death paperwork takes time to complete. Additionally any investigation into deaths if hospital acquired or referred to coroner may delay the organisation of funerals as they await post mortem first

[AViewFromTheWindows]

I drive on the motorway for my commute and every single morning indeed at least one ambulance. Not saying thaybtheubarenall vivid patients, but there certainly has been an increase.

[FleetwoodRaincoat]

I live near a crematorium and they're as busy as ever, just not as many mourners' cars passing by.

Please don't believe what you read on Facebook.

[Bluntness100]

@Yohoheaveho

We are failing to protect our elderly
Could it also be that our elderly started out in a worse position (compared to those in other countries) because of our inadequate social care system etc 🤔

You mean they are unhealthier? No I don’t think so. That wouldn’t account for them having a higher infection rate than any other country,,

Family members or workers are catching it and infecting them, there is no way round it, that’s what’s causing the bulk of it. Someone is going in with it, infecting one person and everyone else is being infected. Some homes they are dying en masse. It’s not hospital infections in thr main, or they are going out and getting it themselves. People are going in and passing it on to them, and it’s either the staff or it’s family members.

[Yohoheaveho]

We are failing to protect our elderly
Could it also be that our elderly started out in a worse position (compared to those in other countries) because of our inadequate social care system etc 🤔

[Bluntness100]

[quote ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia]UK has worst daily Covid death rate in the world, Oxford research shows

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/uk-highest-daily-covid-death-rate-world-oxford-research-b900231.html?[/quote]
And if you look at the demographics it’s becayse we are failing to protect our elderly. Other countries are managing it, but we are not. And care homes are the biggest contributor to that. Thr average age of peoooe dying is 82. I just don’t understand how after a year of it, care homes are still not able to protect their residents. Or how elderly not in care homes are being so so badly infected. It’s not they are all getting it in hospital. Our elderly are getting it from those around them.

They are now having to vaccinate them all as a matter of urgency because we cannot protect them. It’s shameful. Other countries are managing it. But we are not.

[ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia]

UK has worst daily Covid death rate in the world, Oxford research shows

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/uk-highest-daily-covid-death-rate-world-oxford-research-b900231.html?

[Chocolatepeanuts]

DH is in the funeral industry. He had 5 covid funerals last week, small NI village where on average he'd have a funeral every other week.

Also the dead aren't taken home for a wake, he doesn't collect the the dead from hospital in a hearse, theres no funeral procession. He collects them in a van you wouldn't look twice at before transferring them.

[doireallyneedaname]

I am seeing way more ambulances than normal, usually parked up outside homes.

[Notashandyta]

Loads and I mean loads of ambulances going along with lights and sirens here in south Wales. Not quite as bad as it was, it was a bit like the start of a disaster movie for a while

[Northernsoulgirl45]

Not sure where the random 3 came from.

[Northernsoulgirl45]

@littleowl1 bloody hell 3 it's nearly times higher than March in my area. Thank you for the data

[UnmentionedElephantDildo]

Today saw the highest death toll, and the second time it's exceeded 1440 per day.

Why choose that number as baseline? Because it's the equivalent of one every minute.

[Hill1991]

BIL a funeral director and they are busier than ever they are having the local hospital morgue ringing them at all hours as they don't have the room.

You will always get people say it's nothing more than the flu but unless it's hit your family you don't have a clue my FIL is currently in ICU with COVID he also had to transfer hospital to make room for the new patients coming in as they are at breaking point.

[Peggyslantern]

A local funeral director posts on our town's FB page that her work is harrowing at the moment. She is run off her feet. She sounds exhausted.

[DontBeShelfish]

@HoppingOnSteppingStones

I am honestly not a conspiracy theorist, denier or whatever.
I actually fell asleep last night after posting.

It was just one of those things I read

I know very much covid is real. As I stated.

No? Not any of those things? Just a professional shit stirrer then.