I'm not a denier or anything but this got me thinking

[HoppingOnSteppingStones]

A covid denier in know posted on FB. If there's so many deaths. Why aren't we seeing loads of private ambulances, funerals etc about.
I live very close in fact I can see the local main hospital from my house. And often see the private ambulances leaving the hospital. Haven't seen any in months
My pil live less than 3min on the same road as the crematorium and said they don't see a huge increase in services.

I'm honestly not denying anything. I totally know covid exists etc but that did get me thinking.
And im sure someone has a perfectly logical explanation on here.

I know funerals are smaller so you wouldn't necessarily see the huge funeral cortege going past but surely you'd see the main car carrying the coffin? I rarely see them I my area and there's a couple of crematoriums and grave yards near me. It's an interesting observation

Lots of older people who are dying of covid are not even getting to hospitals. Many are choosing to die at home where they can see family. Or they are dying in Nursing homes. So the bodies may never get to a hospital mortuary at all.

DP in the police, attending sudden deaths regularly and has to escort them to the morgue. Morgue is so full that bodies are being sent straight to coroner and funeral directors are being used as overflow to store them. Trust me - it’s real.

There are only so many ceremonies crematoriums can do a day. So now you have to wait weeks and weeks for a funeral. My mum died last week. We cant have her funeral until mid February. So, they may not look any busier each day but the whole system is getting more and more backed up.

I live on the same street as a private nursing home. I have seen more private ambulances in the last 6/7 months than I have in 9 years of living here. It’s quite horrible actually

Also DH was informed by manager this week that mortuary staff at local hospital want funeral directors to book funerals on soonest date available (usually family can choose) as they need bodies out as quickly as possible to make room if that gives you some idea of what hospital/funeral staff are working in at the moment

Covid deaths are up, other deaths are down. A funeral director I know said he hadn’t been any more busy than normal, it’s just the way they’ve had to do things is different. If you look at uk death rates over the last few years, there isn’t much of a difference.

Yep the explanation is you attend funerals on zoom because there is a pandemic.

I can tell you that in London there are plenty ambulances queuing up outside hospitals.

And temporary morgues.

A little research would have told you all this OP. And perhaps a bit of following the news would be a good idea...

Guess depends we’re u are ? I still don’t know anyone that’s even had it other than the odd distant Facebook friend . Doesn’t mean it isn’t happening

My relative died a few weeks ago and there was no funeral at all in the usual sense as the people closest to her are all either shielding or live in other countries so we decided she wouldn't have wanted those people to take that risk.

Also, just because you personally aren't seeing something doesn't mean it isn't happening. You are seeing one hospital in the country, at whatever moments you decide to actually go and look at it. It's not an accurate representation of anything.

This is the 21 century version of ‘I’m not racist but...’

An old friend and her partner were deniers
Have they now revoked their opinions?

Funeral directors are really busy. I speak to them every so often and they're frazzled.

Ask any one of NHS staff. You'll get the same answer from them all.

This is the peak time of year for death rates anyway.
Lockdown has quashed norovirus rates. A significant proportion of Covid deaths would be likely from usual winter illnesses such as flu or norovirus anyway. Data on excess deaths obviously isn't avaliable, but it will be interesting when it can be released to see what offset there is from the average expected numbers and causes.
Hospitals are under pressure, but that's partly due to Covid/ non-Covid management and staffing issues with isolations. It's not the same situation as the one that we face pretty much every winter at this point.

I've seen a lot more hearses. I work near a crematorium, and it's noticeable. My partner's dad died a few months ago and there was quite a long wait until they could do the funeral.

I've seen lots more ambulances than usual, from different areas, too.

We've seen a massive increase in ambulances and we're a good half hour from the nearest hospital.

Maybe talk to your local funeral director and see what their view is.
Ours are snowed under....

I've seen loads of hearses here in the west country. I'm out all day on the district so I'm passing lots of them.

I live in an area that has very low rates right now. But funerals are still at least 3 weeks after someone's death (I know, because I organised one just before Xmas) because the crematoria, etc, are so busy. Extra slots aren't being magically created, unless you want a funeral at night, and I think that's against the law anyway.

And most people who wanted to attend the funeral I arranged viewed it online rather than in person. We only had 10 people there, including the DC and me, so very few cars there. We arrived as people left the previous funeral, and people were arriving for the next one, so hardly "slow business".

Although I will buck the trend as he didn't die from Covid.

@CrunchyCarrot

OK let's run with the Covid denier narrative - that there really aren't hospitals full of people very sick with it, it's all made up. If that's true, that means a hell of a lot of people must be pretending. All the staff in every hospital must be pretending that all hell is breaking loose and they are nearly overwhelmed, in fact they have done acting lessons so that they can come out and weep into their phones and post online. And this is taking place in almost every country. They're all just play-acting.

I mean, that really isn't feasible, is it?

This. It's utterly ridiculous. They never offer any viable reasoning as to why on earth this whole worldwide play acting is taking place, either.

Except something about government control and The Great Reset.

@FlightyBird

This is the 21 century version of ‘I’m not racist but...’

Yes I thought the same!

I'm not a covid denier, I just don't believe many people are dying...