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I'm not a denier or anything but this got me thinking

240 replies

HoppingOnSteppingStones · 18/01/2021 21:37

A covid denier in know posted on FB. If there's so many deaths. Why aren't we seeing loads of private ambulances, funerals etc about.
I live very close in fact I can see the local main hospital from my house. And often see the private ambulances leaving the hospital. Haven't seen any in months
My pil live less than 3min on the same road as the crematorium and said they don't see a huge increase in services.

I'm honestly not denying anything. I totally know covid exists etc but that did get me thinking.
And im sure someone has a perfectly logical explanation on here.

OP posts:
K4fkaesque · 18/01/2021 22:38

I'm not racist but... Hmm

SabrinaMorningstar · 18/01/2021 22:39

I don't think what you're doing is thinking OP - fantasising; lying; goading; disrespecting ... but not thinking.

mrshoho · 18/01/2021 22:40

@BogRollBOGOF

This is the peak time of year for death rates anyway. Lockdown has quashed norovirus rates. A significant proportion of Covid deaths would be likely from usual winter illnesses such as flu or norovirus anyway. Data on excess deaths obviously isn't avaliable, but it will be interesting when it can be released to see what offset there is from the average expected numbers and causes. Hospitals are under pressure, but that's partly due to Covid/ non-Covid management and staffing issues with isolations. It's not the same situation as the one that we face pretty much every winter at this point.
We know the excess deaths from 2020 is around 80,000. That's 80,000 more deaths than the average of the previous 5 years.
mrshoho · 18/01/2021 22:42

Meant to add that figure is England and Wales only.

Wolfff · 18/01/2021 22:42

OP you’re being ridiculous. A family friend died last week. Everything is delayed, the post mortem, the registrar, plus a three week wait for the funeral.

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 18/01/2021 22:43
Biscuit
TheFormidableMrsC · 18/01/2021 22:44

I have a close friend who is a funeral director and is on her knees currently Sad

middleager · 18/01/2021 22:46

What about your two nurse friends who you mention on another thread.
What do they say OP?

Reinventinganna · 18/01/2021 22:47

Your covid denier friend is more than welcome to come to work with me. They wouldn’t last a shift.

Hugoslavia · 18/01/2021 22:48

Well, covid sufferers tend not to be rushed to hospital by ambulance. They tend to be admitted feeling unwell then deteriorate.
There is less traffic on the roads, so less need for ambulances to put their sirens on, therefore they are less noticeable.
Less traffic on the roads and pubs closed means less accidents too.

MarinaMarinara · 18/01/2021 22:49

@cherry101 isn’t “Dr” Vernon Coleman the (entirely discredited) chap who also denied that AIDS was a risk/existed? Who posts a lot of videos on YouTube? Not what I think most people would consider a reliable source of information...

Bluntness100 · 18/01/2021 22:50

I actually feel concern for people like the op and her friend. I mean they are literally sitting there thinking governments round the world are lying to them and faking deaths. When you’re reduced to that, you’re not well, and it’s concerning.

C8H10N4O2 · 18/01/2021 22:50

I'm honestly not denying anything. I totally know covid exists etc but that did get me thinking

But not hard enough apparently

namesnamesnamesnames · 18/01/2021 22:50

A friend of my husband is in the funeral business. They are unbelievably busy and some staff are finding it particularly hard.

GwendolineMarysLaces · 18/01/2021 22:52

@cherry101

I believe the virus is real with a 99.9% recovery rate for most people. But the hoax is that they used this flu like virus to control the masses, track everyone's movements a cashless society.

Check on all the doctors that agree online one being dr.Vernon Coleman.
Believe what u will but do your own research before you join the rest of the sheep

You are seriously calling other people 'sheep'. PMSL
mineofuselessinformation · 18/01/2021 22:53
  1. You may not be on a high volume ambulance route.
  2. Bodies can be collected at any time of day - I know the funeral company retrieved my DF's body quite early.
  3. if you think the statistics are made up, maybe you could enquire under the Freedom of Information Act.....
  4. Tennis(one of the few I've ever given).
gettingshitstraight · 18/01/2021 22:53

Yet another thread and yet another stupid question. I despair of the bollocks that people talk about Covid, case numbers abs deaths.

It's embarrassing that you claim not to be a denier but still asked this question.

Skade · 18/01/2021 22:55

Well then you’re not looking hard enough. We ran out of space in our mortuary three times last week and processed almost 80 deaths between Mon-Fri, 2/3rds of which were Covid-related, and which is many more deaths than we would normally have this time of year. When I leave my office I regularly see 15+ ambulances parked outside ED waiting to get in, and we’re in a semi rural area.

Madhairday · 18/01/2021 22:56

@cherry101

I believe the virus is real with a 99.9% recovery rate for most people. But the hoax is that they used this flu like virus to control the masses, track everyone's movements a cashless society.

Check on all the doctors that agree online one being dr.Vernon Coleman.
Believe what u will but do your own research before you join the rest of the sheep

Lol

If you're going to quote statistics at least try to do better. Seeing as 90,000 people have died, and that's already more than 0.1% of the population (not even of known cases, that's over 3%), I think you might find your maths somewhat out.

Baaaa. 🐑

Twentyweektraining · 18/01/2021 22:56

Confused fgs

thedalaisllama · 18/01/2021 22:56

This is not meant to cause any offence but do you live in a relatively socially/economically privileged area? I personally know and know of people who have died from covid and lots of them seem to be from not very wealthy or minority backgrounds.

DumplingsAndStew · 18/01/2021 22:56

@cherry101

I believe the virus is real with a 99.9% recovery rate for most people. But the hoax is that they used this flu like virus to control the masses, track everyone's movements a cashless society.

Check on all the doctors that agree online one being dr.Vernon Coleman.
Believe what u will but do your own research before you join the rest of the sheep

Cool story.
I'm not a denier or anything but this got me thinking
whippettiger · 18/01/2021 22:57

I’m very rational about things and definitely not all doom and gloom, but I can’t leave the house to drop my daughter at childcare or get food without seeing a hearse or private ambulance every single time. I don’t live near a funeral home and it’s not normally like this.

What you’re describing is confirmation bias. Not evidence of anything.

FourTeaFallOut · 18/01/2021 22:57

@middleager

What about your two nurse friends who you mention on another thread. What do they say OP?
Grin
Madhairday · 18/01/2021 23:00

I'm so sorry for the people on this thread who have lost loved ones to covid. It must be like a slap in the face to read stuff like this. Flowers

My dh is a vicar and I can promise you that funeral directors are under immense pressure. They've never seen anything like it and we're in an area with lower deaths than many. It's rocked dh to the core as well, taking funerals for people who so long to grieve their loved ones with all the family but who cannot. He took one the other day with 30 there and hundreds more on zoom via live link. Just hideous. :(